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I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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My response:

And there you have it, Basketball. You can have all the "sagtutory rape" you want, and there's absolutely nothing anyone can do to you, or your 18 year old boyfriend.

Listen - - your hormones are RAGING right now, and there's nothing we could say or do that would stop you from being an animal. Therefore, we really don't care what you do, or don't do. Frankly speaking, it's my belief that if you can't spell the word correctly, you shouldn't be spreading your legs and putting them over your shoulders. But, hey - - that's just me. You can spread em' all you like.

But, when you get pregnant, your boyfriend will be gone, leaving you on your own, and you'll be on Welfare and so will your child - - that is assuming, of course, you'd rather have an ABORTION!

IAAL
 


snostar

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JohnnyN said:
"It's not illegal if you don't get caught"

That like saying if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear then it doesn't make a sound.

Is this site possessed tonight?
 
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JohnnyN

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I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
My response:



But, when you get pregnant, your boyfriend will be gone, leaving you on your own, and you'll be on Welfare and so will your child - - that is assuming, of course, you'd rather have an ABORTION!

IAAL

That whole argument isn't specific to every case. Maybe her boyfriend is well-off. Maybe he would be prepared to support a child. The fact is that we're all making assumptions based on little fact and the common stereotypes that we all know. The only thing you can really do from here is speak from a legal standpoint.
 

BelizeBreeze

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And although I agree with IAAL, this thread has been answered as to the consequences available (including up to 35 years in jail) in your OTHER thread.

And that's why you don't start two threads the same.
 
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adesire2Bhappy

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JohnnyN said:
So you're degrading the girl for not being able to make a conscious decision?

A: Yes i am saying she is not capable of making a conscious decision do to peer pressure or a guy trying to talk her into it.

If a 23 year old asked me to have sex with them, and I didn't want to, I would decline the offer.

A:Tell it to someone who believes you. You are a guy and if you had the chance to make it with an older woman you probley would then brag to your friends about

So if I go out a bang an 20 year old, should they be charged with rape?

A: It dont matter if you are a male or female if you are under age then yes the adult should be charged with statutory rape.

Am I that incapable of making decisions? Am I a victim of a crime? I don't think so, but apperently the law does.

A:And in this case the law is what matters here.
 
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I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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JohnnyN said:
That whole argument isn't specific to every case. Maybe her boyfriend is well-off.

MY RESPONSE: Yeah, right. A well-off 18 year old. Statistically, our writer is an inner city Black girl with one parent, and is a latch-key kid, while Momma works as a maid in a rich White family home.



Maybe he would be prepared to support a child.

MY RESPONSE: Yeah. Maybe I can fly the Space Shuttle.




The fact is that we're all making assumptions based on little fact and the common stereotypes that we all know.

MY RESPONSE: I'm "statistically" correct.




The only thing you can really do from here is speak from a legal standpoint.

MY RESPONSE: No. I can speak from any standpoint I like. Don't like it?
Tough sh*t.

IAAL
 
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JohnnyN

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MY RESPONSE: Yeah, right. A well-off 18 year old. Statistically, our writer is an inner city Black girl with one parent, and is a latch-key kid, while Momma works as a maid in a rich White family home.


Nice "statistics". You're still stereotyping whether you would want to beleive it or not.
 

Shay-Pari'e

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JohnnyN said:
So you're degrading the girl for not being able to make a conscious decision? I was 14 two years ago. Guess what? If I didn't want to have sex, I didn't have sex. If a 23 year old asked me to have sex with them, and I didn't want to, I would decline the offer.

The classification "minors" is far too broad. I guess I (being 16) have the consciousness and reasoning of a 5 year old. (sarcasm, in case you didn't know)

So if I go out a bang an 20 year old, should they be charged with rape? Am I that incapable of making decisions? Am I a victim of a crime? I don't think so, but apperently the law does.

Kiddo, you have no inkling what you are talking about.
 

dequeendistress

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Yes you are not capable to make that decision (the one you so eloquently described as banging a 20 year old.)

And even so, the adult IS CAPABLE of making the decision not to, and will be held accountable in a court of law if he "bangs" you, hopefully.
 
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xtremecaligirl

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Basketball - I am not in Vermont, not a police officer, and not a lawyer but I do know that when people on here tell you that yes your boyfriend can be charged they are correct. That is assuming you two are having sex or involved in sexual acts (which I see you say you are not)

Now, anyone can press charges on him if they really want to. Unfortunately even if your parents are cool with it, someone else might not be. If you do date someone over 18 make sure you and him know the consequences and the risks. I am not saying that the law is right, but it is there nonetheless.

Basically noone can stop you from having sex and with whom but make sure you always use protection and don't become a statistic. I personally don't understand how they can charge minors with adult crimes (like murder) but yet don't allow them to choose who they can have sex with. When you turn 18 you can have sex with someone 58 (40 year age gap) and yet when you are 14 you can't have sex with someone 18 (4 year age gap) Makes no sense to me.

Anyway, sorry it's not legal advice but just my 2cents. Also to everyone giving her a hard time, you need to seriously lay off the hostility.
 

dequeendistress

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This is a legal forum, you think this is HOSTILE? What kind of life can one expect engaging in these activities as described.

#1. Sex is not everything.

#2. Screwing up your life, and other life, for the sake of engaging in sex can cost many EVERYTHING.

Legal advice is: Don't partake in illegal actions, unless you are prepared for the consequence. A life time record is NOT worth it, and that is not the ONLY possible repercussions of this act
 
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xtremecaligirl

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dequeendistress said:
This is a legal forum, you think this is HOSTILE? What kind of life can one expect engaging in these activities as described.

Being a legal forum, I would expect more legal advice rather than attacks and judgements. As far as life, it depends on the person, but this does not affect one's life any more than it would if she was 18. With the exception of if charges get pressed. And apparently you have no clue about teenagers and especially female teenagers. I bet if you ask most women if they ever had sex with someone over 18 when they were a minor they will say yes. It happens every day and you can't stop it. Instead of judging and condeming someone you might try giving them advice that they can use and relate to. An adult having sex with a minor is illegal, that has been established. She wants to know what type of evidence they would need if charges were pressed (especially since she says she has not had sex with her bf). If you know the law in detail then I am sure you could answer her question. If not then quit pretending you do and let someone who does know answer her question. We all know your opinion on the matter, but she wasn't asking for that. She came on here looking for facts.


dequeendistress said:
Legal advice is: Don't partake in illegal actions, unless you are prepared for the consequence.

I do agree with this.
 

You Are Guilty

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xtremecaligirl said:
Being a legal forum, I would expect more legal advice rather than attacks and judgements. As far as life, it depends on the person, but this does not affect one's life any more than it would if she was 18. With the exception of if charges get pressed. And apparently you have no clue about teenagers and especially female teenagers. I bet if you ask most women if they ever had sex with someone over 18 when they were a minor they will say yes. It happens every day and you can't stop it. Instead of judging and condeming someone you might try giving them advice that they can use and relate to. An adult having sex with a minor is illegal, that has been established. She wants to know what type of evidence they would need if charges were pressed (especially since she says she has not had sex with her bf). If you know the law in detail then I am sure you could answer her question. If not then quit pretending you do and let someone who does know answer her question. We all know your opinion on the matter, but she wasn't asking for that. She came on here looking for facts.


And if you were paying attention to the responses and not caught up in the arguments, if you look waaaaaaay back on page 1, you'll see I did exactly that maybe 3 replies into the thread.


And on that note:
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE said:
MY RESPONSE: Yeah. Maybe I can fly the Space Shuttle.

Holy crap, you too?! I took SpaceShuttle 201 in law school! But what about dirigibles? I bet you can't fly dirigibles.
 

dequeendistress

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Whatever.

Being female, and past the age of 18, of course I DONT know anything about female teenagers. Being a mother of one, would definitely prove that I have never had sexual relations, and being a reserve law enforcement officer would definitely prove, beyond any reasonable doubt, that I have absolutely no knowledge of the law.

Thank you extreme for putting me in my place.

Instead of judging and condeming someone you might try giving them advice that they can use and relate to

OK: How about, Stop screwing around with adults UNTIL you ARE an adult. Thank you and You're welcome. :rolleyes:

Should you not be out helping your boyfriend find his lost bike about now?
 
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xtremecaligirl

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Well obviously I don't give a crap about what you think of me but it just so happens I am also an adult, proffesional, and I work full-time.

This thread has obviously escalted to something totally off topic so I'm done.
 
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