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Salary employee....forced to make up a sick day?

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Willlyjo

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No you don't!!!

How many times have we told you THERE IS NO SUCH LAW!!!

Esteemed colleagues, this person is lying. There is absolutely no way she's a GM - she can't read, she can't spell, she complains about the most infinitesimal issues, and she has no knowledge or understanding of the basics of employment law (a must for management positions).

Hmmm...here we go again. Eerelations trying to draw attention to himself. Why don't you work on your own reading comprehension and spelling before you attack the Op.

FYI, the thread is about interpretation of her sick days in accordance to her company policy for a salaried employee. It took several Senior Members to sort this out so how can you say the Op lacks a "basic" understanding of employment law?

What in your opinion is a basic understanding of employment law? I'd like to know because there are lots of GM's that I'm aware of that don't really even know enough about employment law to even protect themselves or their companies. The Op simply asked a question which took like 2 days to answer. What is the purpose of you attacking her? Maybe they do that in Canada but it isn't the thing to do here or even Canada for that matter.
 
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cbg

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Actually, the law is perfectly straightforward. It's not that it took several people two days to sort it out; it's that the OP had decided what she wanted the answer to be and it took two days to get her to accept that her initial understanding was incorrect.

And I see that it's still quite all right in Willyjo's world for he, she, or it to berate the senior members, but not all right for anyone else to say anything but "oh you poor baby".
 
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Willlyjo

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Actually, the law is perfectly straightforward. It's not that it took several people two days to sort it out; it's that the OP had decided what she wanted the answer to be and it took two days to get her to accept that her initial understanding was incorrect.

And I see that it's still quite all right in Willyjo's world for he, she, or it to berate the senior members, but not all right for anyone else to say anything but "oh you poor baby".

Look at all the responses I've ever made in this forum and you will find that I've never initiated arrogant, demeaning or condensending behavior toward anyone.

Many laws are not perfectly straight forward--they can be twisted and misentrepreted enough that even judges rule inadvertently. Why do you think there is such a thing as an Appeal?

Even you self professed 'great', 'without mistake' and 'expert' Senior Members didn't comprehend the Op acknowledging her misunderstanding, thus, you clearly continued bantering her even though it WAS clear she agreed with you she was misunderstanding the elements of her employment in regard to sick days, exempt status, salaried employment, etc...
 
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cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
Since I can't see you through the computer screen, I have no way of knowing what gender you are; thank you for clarifying.

THIS particular law, that is addressed in this thread, IS very straightforward.

And I'm curious as to why you think it is up to you to put anyone "in their place" and why you get to determine what their place is. Did someone die and make you moderator?
 

LdiJ

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So, you are now agreeing that:

1.) There are no laws at either Federal or state level dictating that vacation or sick days be provided to either exempt or non-exempt employees?

2.) That the statute that determines when an exempt employee may and may not be docked, does not specify how many days is considered reasonable and that any definition has been set by the courts, not by the Federal government?

3.) That no law at either the Federal or state level prohibits an employer from requiring either an exempt or non-exempt employee from "making up" time?

You are agreeing that this is the case?

I don't often post on this particular forum on freeadvice, but I have to say that having been an employer myself, and a manager myself, and being fairly knowledgeable about employment law, you guys did confuse the heck out of me until i got to this particular post.

I thought I understood what you were saying, and I thought that the OP was demonstrating that he/she understood what you were saying, but I couldn't understand why you all didn't think he/she understood what you were saying.

I just thought I would mention that.

I will add however, that it is quite unusual for an employer to require an exempt employee to make up a sick day in a circumstance where there is no business need for that employee to do so. Particularly when the employee clearly works any number of hours the employer needs the employee to be there.

Therefore I would wonder what was motivating the employer to do so.
 
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