Search Warrent

[suitechic1979]

I want to thank you all for the great legal advice you've given. Out of 2 pages, there has only been one piece of case law. All the rest was speculation, and slander.

It's truly sad when all you hear about is how you should be doing Random Act's of Kindness, but when someone actually tries to, they are suspected of being an internet predator, and pedophile.

And for "outonbail", that was a great line about M. Jackson. I wonder how many sleepless nights it took for you to think up that one. I really wouldn't take advice from someone who is "out on bail" anyway... seems like you have a little too many problems of your own to be worrying about my situation.

CdwJava, I would like to thank you for your infinite wisdom on nothing. You have provided nothing to this thread but slander and accusation. I have not read all 11,000+ of your posts, but I'm guessing you've never stated a case law yet. Just another internet troll here to slam people who are trying to find help.

Ozark_Sophist, I do want to thank you for at least trying to help... your the only one that actually posted anything of usefulness.

And lastly, as for CdwJava's comment on "That's the world we live in - perverts around every rock." that's just untrue. I live in a small town, population is a little over 2,000 people... very little crime happens here. We don't even have our own police department. We rely on the state police for our town. It's sad that people actually think that you can't be trying to do good. What has truly come of this world. Everything is taken to have a motive... well, yea, I did have a motive... just to bring a little good to the world. I can see that some people may think I was the kingpin of the underage trafficking of sex slaves in a town of 2,000 people, but can't you just look at the other side of that coin, or are we that desensitized as a people that good is the last thing on our minds?

**EDIT**

As for taking her out for her birthday, it's her 16th birthday, you know... Sweet 16... I wanted to do something nice... but from what I see anymore, I'm probably not going to do anything nice anymore... so if you happen to be on fire, I'm not going to try to put it out... you might accuse me of injuring you. If your house is being robbed, I won't call the police... I might have been in on it, and had a change of heart.

 

[outonbail]

You claim to have known these girls for over a year now. So when you were twenty five, you met a thirteen and fourteen year old girl over the INTERNET and they became your best friends.

I don't know why you can't understand that this is not normal. You just refuse to step back and see the situation from someone else's viewpoint. So here's a suggestion and only a suggestion so please don't read anything into it and don't take it as any sort of accusation or insinuation that I'm calling you a pedophile, like you have every other reply that was simply trying to explain why the police saw red flags waving when they stopped you.

Go to the closest elementary school and take a survey of how many twenty five and twenty six year old men, are dropping their young female friends off at their sixth and seventh grade classrooms. I think you will discover there are none. Thats right, I'm willing to bet that you will not find even one other thirteen or fourteen year old girl, who was recently kicking it with their twenty six year old male best friend, who they met on line. This is because it is not common and it is not normal for twenty six year old men to make friends with girls going into the sixth and seventh grade, and this is what everyone was trying to explain.

No one called you a pedophile and/or a sexual predator. But the more you post, the more I'm beginning to consider it a possibility, because you have some real issues that need dealing with, if nothing else, you are a complete idiot and I'm glad that the police are out there doing their job. You're twenty six years old and you don't even have a drivers license. But here you are believing that your a good role model for these young girls. You need psychiatric help and these girls need to be protected from you and all your good intentions. I hope their parents come to their senses and file a restraining order to protect their children from your abnormal influence.

 

[tranquility]

For you not to recognize the suspicious nature of the situation described shows a lack of common sense about the world. I suggest you stay in your small town as some city slicker is sure to take your sock full of money if you ever go to see the moving picture show in the big city.

There are many possible explinations for the situation you find yourself in. Since you cannot give the police reasoning for anything they did, there can be no case law on point. Everything can only be supposition. For a number of reasons, search incident to arrest, impound inventory, probable cause in a vehicle and the inherent mobility involved, the police could come into rightful possession of your computer. This is just from the facts you have provided. Then, either with consent or with a search warrant (which they do not need to show you at this time), they can go through the files in that computer.

Even without those reasons, there has been some jurisprudence in the 4th circut (your circut) where a computer has been likened to a container. This would give the police the ability to search the files in any of the above listed reasons. Because of this, the police are taking only the risk of exclusion of any evidence they find if you get an attorney and fight it tooth and nail to get a holding based on still-changing case law.

The time to search a computer's files to use anything found as evidence can take some time. A mirrored drive must be made and then special software is used to look at the drive. While the tools are getting easier and easier to use, there are always more need for them than there are resources to meet the need and most computer seizures take some time for the person to get it back.

However, since you haven't really tried to get it back, we don't know the justification. Since you can't really provide ay information as to why they did what they did, we can't help you. Since you seem to want to leave in a huff because you didn't get what you thought you should, please see the man at the door for a full refund on your way out.

 

[suitechic1979]

here's the thing... at no point did I ever say I met them online... I TALK to them online... I didn't meet them online...

As for my local schools, yes, there are men and women of different ages picking up and dropping off kids all the time... nannys, friends, and what not...

I do understand the different view points... but after these girls told the police that I hadn't attempted anything sexual (while being in'terror'gated), they really had no reason to suspect me anymore... after both girls were CRYING from being pressured into confessing, and still not saying I did anything sexual (which nothing sexual did occur), what else did the police need? the signature of god him/herself??

 

[outonbail]

here's the thing... at no point did I ever say I met them online... I TALK to them online... I didn't meet them online...

As for my local schools, yes, there are men and women of different ages picking up and dropping off kids all the time... nannys, friends, and what not...

I do understand the different view points... but after these girls told the police that I hadn't attempted anything sexual (while being in'terror'gated), they really had no reason to suspect me anymore... after both girls were CRYING from being pressured into confessing, and still not saying I did anything sexual (which nothing sexual did occur), what else did the police need? the signature of god him/herself??

OK, so a friend introduced you. Obviously you don't see anything unusual about a friend introducing a twenty six year old man to a thirteen year old child either.

I'm not asking you to take note of how many Nanny's, fathers and/or brothers are bringing young girls to school, I want to know how many twenty six year old male friends are doing this. How many twenty six year old men have phone numbers given to them by thirteen year old girls?

So tell me, how many photographs do you have of your friends? How many are stored in your computer? What was it that made the police suspicious of you but not your uncle?

Your a moron and someone needs to pull you out of the sand box....

 

[CdwJava]

I truly am sorry that you just don't see how suspicious this looks from the outside. Maybe you do live in Mayberry, and nothing ever happens. I, too, live and work in a small town much akin to Mayberry, and I have to tell you that such vile acts DO occur ... I have stories that would curl your hair, and nightmares that still haunt me. The fact that you don't see these acts is a testament to those around you that ferret out the vermin. I'm glad you and these children are not exposed to the same reality of the world that the officers you encounter have been.

The police are paid to be suspicious, ask questions, and delve into unusual activity. Our experience tells us that this situation is unusual - THAT is why they looked into it further.

You cay there is nothing improper here. Okay, fine - I believe you. But, that doesn't mean that it did not deserve to be looked into.

If you really do not want the police to investigate suspicious activity, you are free to lobby your legislature to preclude the police from conducting such investigations. I can't imagine that it would happen, but you are free to try.

And, congratulations for living in Paradise. And be sure to thank the boys in blue (or green, khaki, or grey) for allowing you and these girls to live a life in such idyllic conditions, because they would appear to be doing a wonderful job sheltering you all from the realities of the world.

- Carl

 

[suitechic1979]

well, I spoke to a detective at the D.A.'s office. he had me go in at 1 yesterday. he said he looked up what he could, but couldn't find my case, so had me repeat my accounts...

that could have been a ploy to see if stories matched up, or the police really have no idea what they are doing.

a friend from 4 states away called me, and told me that the police called her and asked her some questions.

I am going to be calling the detective in a few minutes to find out what is going on now.

**edit**

and I do see how suspcious this looks, but after BOTH girls, under in'terror'gation and crying, both say that nothing has happened, would you keep looking?

 

[Just Blue]

and I do see how suspcious this looks, but after BOTH girls, under in'terror'gation and crying, both say that nothing has happened, would you keep looking?[/

Yes! Victims often protect their abuser either out of fear or a sence of misplaced love and loyalty...Take a perusal of the DV Forum or Juvie Forum...Search under " Statutory Rape"...or " Domestic Violence"...

Currently in the DV forum there is a thread " How can I help" ...Read it!

 

[Zigner]

Just a quick comment on the excuse of "it's a 4-door car" so one couldn't think you were kidnapping them. Every car I've had for the past 20 years has had "child locks" on it...basically, little switches that make it so the door can't be opened from the inside.

 

[CdwJava]

and I do see how suspcious this looks, but after BOTH girls, under in'terror'gation and crying, both say that nothing has happened, would you keep looking?

Possibly.

Children often lie to protect their abuser. There are a host of social and psychological dynamics that can come into play here, and denials do not necessarily equate to the truth.

- Carl