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GAneedsHelp

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What is the name of your state? Georgia

I was recently arrested, and so was my buddy who was driving, for possession. We didn't go to jail on a copy of charges, but were both ticketed with a misdemeanor. For my buddy, its basically a slap on the wrist. For me, this is my second offense. My first one was very recent, as I pleaded guilty in court not even a month ago.

For my first offense, I really didn't want to plead guilty, but I felt I had too. There were too many discrepancies in my first offense, including that the cop never told us why we were pulled over, and he reached into my pocket to pull out a bag of weed while searching me "for officer safety". When we were pulled over, the car did smell of freshly smoked marijuana, so that may have caused a reason to suspect. I pleaded guilty, and got probation for at least 6 months. Now...

My second offense occurred in the same city, almost the same situation. me and a different buddy were riding home from a poker game. Immediately after leaving the restaurant we played poker at, we both noticed a cop behind us. My buddy kept driving, and initially sped up to a maximum of 40 mph. We passed a sign that read a speed limit of 25, and so I warned my buddy, and he proceeded to slow down. A few moments later, the cop behind us turns on his lights. At this time, we are travelling maybe 30 mph. The cop pulls us over, approaches our car, and tells my buddy he pulled us over because we were speeding, and proceeds to ask why did we pull out of a certain road we were on(they thought we were smoking in an alley down the road which is like a hill, but really, my buddy had to park there because the restaurant parking was full) He pulls him out and begins to question him. I couldn't hear what was going on because I was left in the car, and I couldn't see what was going on with the cop light from their car shining in my eye. After they initially questioned my buddy, they pull me out of the car.

The officer asks me to do a couple sobriety tests, which I pass. I hadn't been drinking, hadn't been smoking. I quit smoking after I pleaded guilty for my first offense, and tonight I just had a gram of bud in my pocket which I wasn't going to smoke, but give to a buddy as a gift.

After the sobriety test, the officer asks me if i got any weapons, drugs, etc. on me. I answer no. He askes if he cans earch me, and I say no. He then asks again if he can search me, "for officer safety", and I say no. He then proceeds to tell me again he's gonna search me for safety, and also threatens by saying that if he finds any bud on me, he'll take me to jail. He furthers by saying that if I have any bud, just hand it over, and if I do so he won't take me to jail, and that they aren't looking for people with little bud but for the "big dogs". His words convince my nervous mind, and I give him the gram of bud in my pocket.

He then asks if my buddy's got any bud in the car, and I tell him I don't know, its not my car. AFter talking to me, they talk to my buddy again, and after a few minutes, he opens the car and tells them he has weed, and where it was. On the ride back home, my buddy told me the opfficer told him I said he had bud in the car.

I just started my probation, but haven't met with my probation officer once yet(we are set to first meet on the 15th). I haven't done the community service yet, but had plans to do so this weekend. Now I don't know if it is even worth it. I haven't really even started my probation yet- time has been running day by day, I've been cleaning my system by not smoking anymore, and I haven't started any of my probation requirements yet.

What can I do in my situation, or what will become? I'd rather go to rehab than jail, but I really don't want to do either. I've given up smoking, and that night I really happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
These are the options I am aware of:
1.PLEAD GUILTY- Jail or maybe drug rehabilitation
2.Plead not guilty- escape charges, or jailtime
3.NARK ON SOMEONE
4. My buddy had possession charges, and he made a deal and joined the military.

Can someone out there PLEASE give me some advice on what to do, what I can do? Are thre any other options? Is there a loophole? Am I screwed?

Thanks for reading.
 
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Shay-Pari'e

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GAneedsHelp said:
What is the name of your state? Georgia

I was recently arrested, and so was my buddy who was driving, for possession. We didn't go to jail on a copy of charges, but were both ticketed with a misdemeanor. For my buddy, its basically a slap on the wrist. For me, this is my second offense. My first one was very recent, as I pleaded guilty in court not even a month ago.

For my first offense, I really didn't want to plead guilty, but I felt I had too. There were too many discrepancies in my first offense, including that the cop never told us why we were pulled over, and he reached into my pocket to pull out a bag of weed while searching me "for officer safety". When we were pulled over, the car did smell of freshly smoked marijuana, so that may have caused a reason to suspect. I pleaded guilty, and got probation for at least 6 months. Now...

My second offense occurred in the same city, almost the same situation. me and a different buddy were riding home from a poker game. Immediately after leaving the restaurant we played poker at, we both noticed a cop behind us. My buddy kept driving, and initially sped up to a maximum of 40 mph. We passed a sign that read a speed limit of 25, and so I warned my buddy, and he proceeded to slow down. A few moments later, the cop behind us turns on his lights. At this time, we are travelling maybe 30 mph. The cop pulls us over, approaches our car, and tells my buddy he pulled us over because we were speeding, and proceeds to ask why did we pull out of a certain road we were on(they thought we were smoking in an alley down the road which is like a hill, but really, my buddy had to park there because the restaurant parking was full)
He pulls him out and begins to question him. I couldn't hear what was going on because I was left in the car, and I couldn't see what was going on with the cop light from their car shining in my eye. After they initially questioned my buddy, they pull me out of the car.

The officer asks me to do a couple sobriety tests, which I pass. I hadn't been drinking, hadn't been smoking. I quit smoking after I pleaded guilty for my first offense, and tonight I just had a gram of bud in my pocket which I wasn't going to smoke, but give to a buddy as a gift. I don't think you understand the logic. You were found with the drugs. Knock Knock...Hellooooooooooo!


After the sobriety test, the officer asks me if i got any weapons, drugs, etc. on me. I answer no. He askes if he cans earch me, and I say no. He then asks again if he can search me, "for officer safety", and I say no. He then proceeds to tell me again he's gonna search me for safety, and also threatens by saying that if he finds any bud on me, he'll take me to jail. He furthers by saying that if I have any bud, just hand it over, and if I do so he won't take me to jail, and that they aren't looking for people with little bud but for the "big dogs". His words convince my nervous mind, and I give him the gram of bud in my pocket. Dude, you are such a good manipulater.

He then asks if my buddy's got any bud in the car, and I tell him I don't know, its not my car. AFter talking to me, they talk to my buddy again, and after a few minutes, he opens the car and tells them he has weed, and where it was. On the ride back home, my buddy told me the opfficer told him I said he had bud in the car. AHH! Ok the root of your problem. I

I just started my probation, but haven't met with my probation officer once yet(we are set to first meet on the 15th). I haven't done the community service yet, but had plans to do so this weekend. Now I don't know if it is even worth it. I haven't really even started my probation yet- time has been running day by day, I've been cleaning my system by not smoking anymore, and I haven't started any of my probation requirements yet.

What can I do in my situation, or what will become? I'd rather go to rehab than jail, but I really don't want to do either. I've given up smoking, and that night I really happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
These are the options I am aware of:
1.PLEAD GUILTY- Jail or maybe drug rehabilitation
2.Plead not guilty- escape charges, or jailtime
3.NARK ON SOMEONE
4. My buddy had possession charges, and he made a deal and joined the military.

Can someone out there PLEASE give me some advice on what to do, what I can do? Are thre any other options? Is there a loophole? Am I screwed?

Thanks for reading.

At some point in time in your life you are going to have to be a man, and not run from your problems.

You and you only created this situation for yourself.
 
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nanaII

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Believe me, I am not condoning drugs. But, if this is a ticket that can be taken care of by simply paying a fine, I would do so, and not say anything to your probation officer. If your PO finds out about it, you will have to deal with it at that point. Call the phone number listed on your ticket to find out if you can simply pay a fine, or if you have to appear in court.
 

GAneedsHelp

Junior Member
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I do have to appear in court for this, and its all in the same small city... if I don't let the PO officer know, he WILL find out. So anybody have any suggestions? Please, don't waste my time interpreting my words, but try help me. Thanks.
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
GAneedsHelp said:
I do have to appear in court for this, and its all in the same small city... if I don't let the PO officer know, he WILL find out. So anybody have any suggestions? Please, don't waste my time interpreting my words, but try help me. Thanks.

Help with what? Deal with it and grow up. There is no magic potion here. Pay the price and learn from it.
 

GAneedsHelp

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ok Paradise, you being a senior member, I was hoping maybe you could actually be a little constructive here instead of giving whitty 1-liners. First off, how am I a good manipulator? That is what the cop told me, so I guess you meant the cop is a good manipulator perhaps? The rest of the stuff you wrote next to my first post is readable, but not understandable because its stupid, its just one-liners(except the last words at the bottom)

And yes, I'm aware there is no magic potion here, but I do have options. Nobody yet(lawyer or officers) has mentioned the military option, but i've read about it, and I know that's been used as an alternate to jail-time, or probation, since 'Nam.

In case you still don't understand, I'll write in your style. This is what you said:

Help with what? MY BAD SITUATION Deal with it and grow up. Yes yes, deal with it....i have options, SO I AM ASKING HOW CAN I DEAL WITH IT? There is no magic potion here. Pay the price and learn from it.and thanks, that clarifies my suspicion that the judges have been practicing witchcraft with their magic potions. How about you throw out a bone here instead of being an arrogant jerk. Or if not, don't waste this site's webspace and let someone more helpful respond, because your just stupid.



but yea, i am seriously contemplating joining the army or the guard. I thought aobut it last year, but wanted to go to school for a bit first, but now its a pressing situation. The army will have yet another former-pothead in the forces, and all will be well.

Yes, I did put myself in this situation, but it isn't just that. Doing any drugs- bud, coke, shrooms, meth, whatever... is illegal, but its the principle. To push this to an extreme so maybe PARADISE can understand:

if you have a pound of bud in your house, and you are smoking it, a cop can't just come in there and arrest you, they need a frikkin warrant to search your house. My situation doesn't involve a warrant, but both times the officers performed malpractice. in the more recent one there was no legitimate reason for the search, and in my first case, THE COPS LIED THEIR ASSESS OFF IN THE REPORT.

The advice i received then was that if they lied on the report, they will lie again... even if i am completely right and the cops broke multiple laws, the lying words of 2 officers is stronger than that of 2 eighteen year olds in the courtroom- especially considering they all work in the same system.


so yea...
 
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OhBullship

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They do not need an arrest warrant if they have probable cause. The reason for the stop was speeding, so far so good. He told you that if you had anything to turn it over, and you did.

The police are allowed to lie to you, they are allowed to try to make you comfortable with them, they are allowed to manipulate you. Not only did you do this to yourself by having the drugs, you did it to yourself by turning them over.

What are your options? Get a lawyer ASAP, you obviously don't have the ability to outsmart the law, trying any more after you proved yourself to be foolish will only make things worse for you.
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
GAneedsHelp said:
ok Paradise, you being a senior member, I was hoping maybe you could actually be a little constructive here instead of giving whitty 1-liners. First off, how am I a good manipulator? That is what the cop told me, And I agree with him.


so I guess you meant the cop is a good manipulator perhaps? The rest of the stuff you wrote next to my first post is readable, but not understandable because its stupid, The truth is hard to swollow.

its just one-liners(except the last words at the bottom) So I didn't waste much energy responding to you. :rolleyes:


And yes, I'm aware there is no magic potion here, but I do have options. Nobody yet(lawyer or officers) has mentioned the military option, but i've read about it, and I know that's been used as an alternate to jail-time, or probation, since 'Nam.Oh Brother. :rolleyes:

In case you still don't understand, I'll write in your style. This is what you said:

Help with what? MY BAD SITUATION Deal with it and grow up. Yes yes, deal with it....i have options, And what are they if you already know them?

SO I AM ASKING HOW CAN I DEAL WITH IT?[/B] Deal with it however you want. This forum is not the Doctor Phill Show.


There is no magic potion here. Pay the price and learn from it.and thanks, that clarifies my suspicion that the judges have been practicing witchcraft with their magic potions. How about you throw out a bone here instead of being an arrogant jerk. Because no one can throw you a bone. You committed a crime and this is a legal forum. I for one do not help criminals.

Or if not, don't waste this site's webspace and let someone more helpful respond, because your just stupid. Hmm, I was not the one arrested for drugs. :rolleyes:

Site doors are open to all. If people want to respond, they will.



but yea, i am seriously contemplating joining the army or the guard. I thought aobut it last year, but wanted to go to school for a bit first, but now its a pressing situation. The army will have yet another former-pothead in the forces, and all will be well. I hate to break this to you, but if convicted...............You can't join the military.


Yes, I did put myself in this situation, but it isn't just that. Doing any drugs- bud, coke, shrooms, meth, whatever... is illegal, but its the principle. To push this to an extreme so maybe PARADISE can understand:I didn't understand one word in this paragraph. I'm sure someone will tell me I am having a blonde moment, or that comment made no sense.


if you have a pound of bud in your house, and you are smoking it, a cop can't just come in there and arrest you, they need a frikkin warrant to search your house. My situation doesn't involve a warrant, but both times the officers performed malpractice. in the more recent one there was no legitimate reason for the search, and in my first case, THE COPS LIED THEIR ASSESS OFF IN THE REPORT. Are you so stoned right now you expect people to listen to your crap?

he advice i received then was that if they lied on the report, they will lie again... even if i am completely right and the cops broke multiple laws, the lying words of 2 officers is stronger than that of 2 eighteen year olds in the courtroom- especially considering they all work in the same system.Hmmm, are you not the one breaking the law?

so yea...

OK, By By.
 
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GAneedsHelp

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Well clearly your advice is no good for me, and for the good of everyone else here, not for them either.

You really think I'm still smoking after that? I stopped after the first one, if you bothered reading. This isn't the dr. phil show, so why are you venting your problems on other users? gosh! haha well gnite to all.

oh yea, and lawyer- COVERED
and as for joining- deals are workable, heard that from the lawyer, but a last resort really. won't be necessary i hope.
 

GAneedsHelp

Junior Member
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actually, heres one you may be able to answer. what should i expect when i go to court for the second one? im talkin with my probation officer tomorrow, and then comin in friday for the first check in, so i think its gna be straight.
 
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absconder

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If youve already been convicted of drug posession Im not sure the military is an option.
 

BamaPharmD

Junior Member
The military will take a few blemishes and overlook them, but you are going to have to score well on your ASVAB and physical before they will even take the time. Good luck with it, and glad to hear you quit smoking. Remember that the military will take a few but when it comes to possession, it gets messy. Talk to someone about an expungment if you do plead guilty, I don't think you can though as a repeat offender.
 
If getting popped the first time made you straighten right up and quit smoking then why the hell would you put yourself at risk by carrying it to give it to a friend. By the way I hope your friend was 18 or older or you could look at a contributing charge.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

Senior Member
GAneedsHelp said:
actually, heres one you may be able to answer. what should i expect when i go to court for the second one? im talkin with my probation officer tomorrow, and then comin in friday for the first check in, so i think its gna be straight.



My response:

Here, talk to this guy - -

https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=238915

You're both Georgia hillbilly trailer trash. Since you're both from the same State of Dufus, perhaps you two can share a cell in prison.

IAAL
 

topconfused

Junior Member
can you believe these replies

I am wondering if whoever started this site did it for this reason. For scared people to aske questions and idiots to respond with a$$hole comments. I am sure mr liable does have to go to work evryday the low paying job he must have due to his lack of intelligience probally keeps him and his family on welfare. Maybe what he doesnt see is all the money seized in these drug cases pays for his food stamps. And when the police put the drugs back on the streets to resale for setting more people up it creates more revenue and more addicts for them to bust. So my response really is not for you but to tell you to ignore mr liable.Hey mr liable....I am sorry you have no life. Maybe you need to get high!!
 
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