Whatever happened or didn't happen, I think the manager of the post office lied about not having cameras. I haven't been in a USPS operation of any kind in at least 15 years that didn't have cameras watching everyone....even the overprotected union workers. Maybe a court subpoena might make them appear.
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zippysgoddess
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Your dog can still support your balance when sitting, I know because our Alaskan Husky, who is a doctor certified service animal, does it for me all the time. She can tell when I am in trouble, or feeling shaky, and is right there by my side.
Now, even when an animal is a service animal, my doctor included my cats in this for emotional support, you do have to face the fact that some people are intimidated by certain animals.
I have met people who are both terrified of cats and dogs, or just hate them. You have to make some reasonable accomodations, too. You can't just expect everyone else to do so because you are disabled. That is just rude.
If she thought your dog should have been sitting, would it not have been a simpler, and much more peaceful solution to give him the sit command? I keep my dog away from, or don't take her to places where I know people are bothered by her presence, in some cases, this has nothing to do with people being discriminatory, it has to do with their being afraid.
Same with my cats, if I take a walk through town with Mr. Whiskers on his harness and leash, and someone doesn't like him, I either stay away, or pick him up so he is in my arms and they don't feel so intimidated.
By doing this, I can keep my necessary support, be it physical or emotional, and help them to feel comfortable as well.
I agree with rmet here, you are creating scenes and problems that are unnecessary. No one, disabled or not, including myself, and I know rmet and many other disabled people will agree as well, has a right to demand to be catered to at the expense of all others.
Now, even when an animal is a service animal, my doctor included my cats in this for emotional support, you do have to face the fact that some people are intimidated by certain animals.
I have met people who are both terrified of cats and dogs, or just hate them. You have to make some reasonable accomodations, too. You can't just expect everyone else to do so because you are disabled. That is just rude.
If she thought your dog should have been sitting, would it not have been a simpler, and much more peaceful solution to give him the sit command? I keep my dog away from, or don't take her to places where I know people are bothered by her presence, in some cases, this has nothing to do with people being discriminatory, it has to do with their being afraid.
Same with my cats, if I take a walk through town with Mr. Whiskers on his harness and leash, and someone doesn't like him, I either stay away, or pick him up so he is in my arms and they don't feel so intimidated.
By doing this, I can keep my necessary support, be it physical or emotional, and help them to feel comfortable as well.
I agree with rmet here, you are creating scenes and problems that are unnecessary. No one, disabled or not, including myself, and I know rmet and many other disabled people will agree as well, has a right to demand to be catered to at the expense of all others.
Sorry but I read
The whole thread you are talking about at the pool and I saw nothing that suggested thet this lady made any trouble there. The owner of the pool is the one who caused all the trouble. Why should this lady be stopped from getting out and enjoying the outdoors because one person at a post office is an inconsiderate ass. She should not have to do all of her postal stuff from home if she does not want to. She has every right to walk into the post office and be treated just like anyone else.
Your bringing up anything in her thread about her son has nothing to do witht his issue but it seems that sometimes that is how you get your poiint across is by bringing peoples other threads into it.
So what if she cant fullfill her obligation to her disabled son, she is on disibility to. That has nothing to do with whether she should be treated as a human being.
rmet4nzkx said:You made trouble at the pool because of your dog, argued with every suggestion offered you short of a court fight and you can't fulfill your duties as guardian for your disabled son, you are full of excuses. Public accommodations are many, not just the one you want because you can use that to harass others. I am not an invilad nor a Scrooge, I just won a contest for Christmas decorations, the fact that I couldn't climb up to place lights on the eves didn't influence the judges, not an invilad or a Scrooge, but able to tell you to stop being a bully because you have a disability. It is people like you that make life for others with disbilities more difficult. I have a reputation for helping others here and don't give up, you were even told on your other thread to seek advice from me.
Take your combat boots off and you won't have to walk softly
The whole thread you are talking about at the pool and I saw nothing that suggested thet this lady made any trouble there. The owner of the pool is the one who caused all the trouble. Why should this lady be stopped from getting out and enjoying the outdoors because one person at a post office is an inconsiderate ass. She should not have to do all of her postal stuff from home if she does not want to. She has every right to walk into the post office and be treated just like anyone else.
Your bringing up anything in her thread about her son has nothing to do witht his issue but it seems that sometimes that is how you get your poiint across is by bringing peoples other threads into it.
So what if she cant fullfill her obligation to her disabled son, she is on disibility to. That has nothing to do with whether she should be treated as a human being.
I didn't read this whole thread because a lot of it seemed like bantering.
I will say, though, that service dogs are legally allowed everywhere. Service dogs in training are as well, as they have the same status as a service dog. (I have trained service dogs before for KSDS (Kansas Specialty Dog Service)).
I will say, though, that service dogs are legally allowed everywhere. Service dogs in training are as well, as they have the same status as a service dog. (I have trained service dogs before for KSDS (Kansas Specialty Dog Service)).
zippysgoddess
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Actually g33k that depends on the state, there was a post on here not long ago regarding the fact that service animals in training do not always have the same rights as the trained, in service animal.
I am in PA, and they do not have those rights here either, until they are actively in service and finished with their training.
I am in PA, and they do not have those rights here either, until they are actively in service and finished with their training.
walkssoftly
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Thank you acmb05
professional neuropsychologist
I just wanted to thank you acmb05 publicly. I chose to thank acmb05 in private when they wrote this, but the more I thought about it, well, I have always shown my appreciation to people that have given me good advice, and also for anyone that has shown any kind of support. So I would like to take this opportunity to say it openly, Thank you for your support acmb05.
I would also like to say that I chose to not comment anymore on this issue due to rmet's cruelty. I was suprised when rmet attacked me personally, and when another poster stated that she/he was a professional neuropsychologist , I was totally shocked, as I would never have expected a respected professional as such to draw conclusions about a person, attacking their character without knowing all the facts. I have worked with many neurologists, neuropsychiatrists, neuropsychologists, and other specialists in referance to my son. They have been, and still are very supportive of my son. They also support and praise my care and dedication to my son's welfare. I respect these professionals highly.
Rmet's words were hurtful and mean, yet she/he calls me a bully, a trouble-maker, ridiculed my dissability, and attacked my ability to be my son's guardian? I've always learned that people that cut others down, are insecure, and are often guilty of what they say about others.
FYI RMET...Not that it is any of your buisness, but I wish to say this for my sake. I have recieved help in ref. to my son's guardianship. I've been blessed to have found someone that is helping me with this issue. Helping me by handling the legal issues, so that I can focus on the care of my son, as I love him and the physicians that I work with know that I have been, and am his best and most dedicated advocate.
I would also like you to know that I have remedied much of the issue with my service animal and the post office. I have done it in a very friendly manner with the post master, when by rights, my rights were terribly violated, and I could very well follow through in a different manner. I don't need to elaborate to you, as you deserve no further information.
Furthermore, Your comment to me about "It is people like me that makes it harder on disabled people" Well.. I'd just like to say it is people like you that attack others, bullying them to give up any rights they might have, suggesting that we should hide in our computers and homes, to buy postage, ship our packages, buy gift cards instead of being able to choose a personal gift, and stay in our wheelchairs instead of being able to use our certified service animal to LIVE our lives that make it harder on disabled people!
I will admit, your attack intimidated me, as I am not known personally by anyone on this forum, and I couldn't believe that someone could attempt to destroy someone's character so cruelly without knowing anything about the facts. At the time I was emotionally distraught over the issues of my son most of all, and then the added problem with the rude postal clerk, so you beat me down where I had no more fight left in me.
Now I have found some resolve to the posts for help in these issues, through others whom had knowledge and cared to give me educated, professional advice , not persecution.
When this happened I feared that my chance to post in these forums and recieve professional advice, that I have always been most greatful for, would not be possible due to your words. I will not allow you to put me in this position.
Sincerely,
K~Walkssoftly
professional neuropsychologist
acmb05 said:
I just wanted to thank you acmb05 publicly. I chose to thank acmb05 in private when they wrote this, but the more I thought about it, well, I have always shown my appreciation to people that have given me good advice, and also for anyone that has shown any kind of support. So I would like to take this opportunity to say it openly, Thank you for your support acmb05.
I would also like to say that I chose to not comment anymore on this issue due to rmet's cruelty. I was suprised when rmet attacked me personally, and when another poster stated that she/he was a professional neuropsychologist , I was totally shocked, as I would never have expected a respected professional as such to draw conclusions about a person, attacking their character without knowing all the facts. I have worked with many neurologists, neuropsychiatrists, neuropsychologists, and other specialists in referance to my son. They have been, and still are very supportive of my son. They also support and praise my care and dedication to my son's welfare. I respect these professionals highly.
Rmet's words were hurtful and mean, yet she/he calls me a bully, a trouble-maker, ridiculed my dissability, and attacked my ability to be my son's guardian? I've always learned that people that cut others down, are insecure, and are often guilty of what they say about others.
FYI RMET...Not that it is any of your buisness, but I wish to say this for my sake. I have recieved help in ref. to my son's guardianship. I've been blessed to have found someone that is helping me with this issue. Helping me by handling the legal issues, so that I can focus on the care of my son, as I love him and the physicians that I work with know that I have been, and am his best and most dedicated advocate.
I would also like you to know that I have remedied much of the issue with my service animal and the post office. I have done it in a very friendly manner with the post master, when by rights, my rights were terribly violated, and I could very well follow through in a different manner. I don't need to elaborate to you, as you deserve no further information.
Furthermore, Your comment to me about "It is people like me that makes it harder on disabled people" Well.. I'd just like to say it is people like you that attack others, bullying them to give up any rights they might have, suggesting that we should hide in our computers and homes, to buy postage, ship our packages, buy gift cards instead of being able to choose a personal gift, and stay in our wheelchairs instead of being able to use our certified service animal to LIVE our lives that make it harder on disabled people!
I will admit, your attack intimidated me, as I am not known personally by anyone on this forum, and I couldn't believe that someone could attempt to destroy someone's character so cruelly without knowing anything about the facts. At the time I was emotionally distraught over the issues of my son most of all, and then the added problem with the rude postal clerk, so you beat me down where I had no more fight left in me.
Now I have found some resolve to the posts for help in these issues, through others whom had knowledge and cared to give me educated, professional advice , not persecution.
When this happened I feared that my chance to post in these forums and recieve professional advice, that I have always been most greatful for, would not be possible due to your words. I will not allow you to put me in this position.
Sincerely,
K~Walkssoftly
Your most recent post is an example of why you experience such difficulty in life which has nothing to do with you and/or your son having a disability. This is a legal forum for advice on legal issues not a rant/vent/support forum. That means that someitmes you will get advice that is appropriate but not what you want to hear, it happens all the time and has nothing to do with having a physical disability or your civil rights.
You are a chronic complainer and would be one even if you didn't have a disability. I don't have to know you personally, I can only work with the facts in evidence, there is a definate pattern, one which will be pointed out if and or when you attempt to take any of these issues to court. You don't take responsibility for your own actions even after admitting you were not competent to handle all the pragmatics associated with your son's care, intent or past acolades has nothing to do with your current issues. The fact that there are many way to accomodate a disability doesn't mean that I am advocating that you isolate yourself from society, but be reasonable in what you ask. When you complain about the cost of shipping gifts and a limited income, gift cards are a reasonable solution and/or shipping form home a great convenience for many, even shopping by computer and having your gifts shipped directly may greatly reduce your frustration. Many internet stores offer free shipping, how is making a suggestion that solves your problem rude or cruel unless you are looking for a fight?
You have far more severe problems than mobility or balance problems which will work against your agendas. Playing the disability card is not a free ride and you do a great disservice to disabled persons when your behavior draws the wrong type of attention and undermines the progress made by others over many years. I have worked in the field of advocacy for disabled persons for more than a quarter centuary in addition to my work in the field of neuroscience, none of your rant can change that fact.
You are a chronic complainer and would be one even if you didn't have a disability. I don't have to know you personally, I can only work with the facts in evidence, there is a definate pattern, one which will be pointed out if and or when you attempt to take any of these issues to court. You don't take responsibility for your own actions even after admitting you were not competent to handle all the pragmatics associated with your son's care, intent or past acolades has nothing to do with your current issues. The fact that there are many way to accomodate a disability doesn't mean that I am advocating that you isolate yourself from society, but be reasonable in what you ask. When you complain about the cost of shipping gifts and a limited income, gift cards are a reasonable solution and/or shipping form home a great convenience for many, even shopping by computer and having your gifts shipped directly may greatly reduce your frustration. Many internet stores offer free shipping, how is making a suggestion that solves your problem rude or cruel unless you are looking for a fight?
You have far more severe problems than mobility or balance problems which will work against your agendas. Playing the disability card is not a free ride and you do a great disservice to disabled persons when your behavior draws the wrong type of attention and undermines the progress made by others over many years. I have worked in the field of advocacy for disabled persons for more than a quarter centuary in addition to my work in the field of neuroscience, none of your rant can change that fact.
zippysgoddess
Senior Member
I am disabled myself and I still agree with rmet! You are attention seeking. You have been given several peaceful options, none of which you find suitable because they do not allow you to make a stink in public and draw attention to yourself.
Yes, you have a right to still live your life and so does everyone else. Being disabled does NOT give you the right to inconvenience everyone else just to make things convenient for yourself.
You seriously need to get over yourself!
Yes, you have a right to still live your life and so does everyone else. Being disabled does NOT give you the right to inconvenience everyone else just to make things convenient for yourself.
You seriously need to get over yourself!
Perhaps she could connect with iron man?zippysgoddess said:
https://forum.freeadvice.com/member.php?find=lastposter&t=300551
Heather2 said:That thread got deleted. Wonder why.
Darn!! should have printed off. I am quite sure somewhere there was an intentional tort. My thought- tort of outrage- you know when the defendant inflicts emotional stress by engaging in behavior totally beyond the bounds of decent society. Only problem was, I could not identify a plaintiff or a defendant.
I prefer Chocolate Raspberry to Intentional Torts most any day.weenor said:
OH let me find it there should be no problem, the FA Crystal Ball is in excellent working order, I should note, however my link was to iron man's profile and it is deleted,
but I did find one of the copies of his post. https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=260064Iron Man said:
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