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valentina

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My fiance and I are currently residing in Arizona and would like to know what it takes to have his probation transferred to Los Angeles. He is a convicted sex offender and is on life time probation (99 years). He was caught chatting online with an underage girl (aka undercover cop) and served 6 months in jail. He didnt even have a victim and we would desperately like to get out of Phoenix. Does anyone know where we should start? I am going to do some research online and contact the LA County Adult Probation Department for starters. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
 


I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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valentina said:
My fiance and I are currently residing in Arizona and would like to know what it takes to have his probation transferred to Los Angeles. He is a convicted sex offender and is on life time probation (99 years). He was caught chatting online with an underage girl (aka undercover cop) and served 6 months in jail. He didnt even have a victim and we would desperately like to get out of Phoenix. Does anyone know where we should start? I am going to do some research online and contact the LA County Adult Probation Department for starters. Any information would be greatly appreciated.



My response:

I guess you have an extremely low self-esteem, and don't feel you're worth more than a "sex offender". Either that, or you're really, really ugly and can't get a man at all.

There is no way in hell his probation will be transferred to California, let alone Los Angeles.

IAAL
 

freedom111

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but u r forgettin somethin very important here ... a lot of these prison guys r very hot lookin, covered in tatts, with hard muscular bodies, total outlaws, ready to beat any 1 up if they even stare at thier woman. So maye that is the reason why so many women go for these guys. I know that is the reason why i do. because it is as plain as day that they r sexy. So next time u wonder why women would go with some bad boy it is because of that. :)
 
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valentina

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judging by your response, you dont seem to be very educated. let me educate you. first of all, a lot of people who dont have victims are being tagged with the "sex offender" label. are you aware that angry parents of their daughters who went out and had sex are waiting until the guy turns 18 to take him to court and put him in jail? do you think thats fair? you should probably start paying more attention to what people write before responding with such an asinine, judgmental comment. is that all you have, ugly? grow up. yes, that must be the reason. if anyone has any valuable information or advice, we'd love to hear it.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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My response:

Yeah, it's gotta be "Ugly". There's no other explanation.

Well, maybe there's a little bit of stupidity in the recipe, too.

Why do you think drunks are taken off the road BEFORE they cause an accident? There's usually no "victim" when a drunk is arrested! Does society have to wait until there's a "victim" dead on the roadway?

You see, your argument is stupid.

IAAL
 
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VR_Hunter

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valentina said:
My fiance and I are currently residing in Arizona and would like to know what it takes to have his probation transferred to Los Angeles. He is a convicted sex offender and is on life time probation (99 years). He was caught chatting online with an underage girl (aka undercover cop) and served 6 months in jail. He didnt even have a victim and we would desperately like to get out of Phoenix. Does anyone know where we should start? I am going to do some research online and contact the LA County Adult Probation Department for starters. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

It sounds like the chatting turned into sexual specifics, that turned into a suggestion to meet for possible sex, that turned into an attempt to meet. That would justify 99 years on probation. Hmmmm, does the term "high risk" mean anything to you?

Yep, you have some issues to deal with. It's your life. Have fun watching everything he does. The chances are, he will do something agian. Maybe not, but it's your rollercoaster.
 

CdwJava

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Knowing some people in the Probation department in L.A. County, I can say without fear of contradiction that there is likely NO WAY IN HELL they will agree to take on this kind of individual. I can see the headlines now: "Los Angeles invites life-long sex offender to live there."

Would YOU want to be the guy receiving the phone calls from the LA Times for that one?

Since CA is not legally required to accept probation from another state, this guy would have to either discharge from probation, or get permission from AZ to leave there and remain in CA. Oh ... and you do not get 99 years probation for simply chatting with someone online. But then, CA doesn't allow for 99 years probation as far as I know, so the idea is a little foreign to me.

And if he DOES come to CA he will have to register as a sex offender almost immediately ... and then every year after that - more often if he does NOT have a residence of his own.

Bottom line is that we have enough sex offenders here, we are not going to take another state's problem when we do not have to.

Carl
 
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AngryAmerican

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Don't be quick to judge

First off, let me say, don't be quick to judge someone who is labeled as a "sex offender", because there is a good chance that even though they are labeled as such, they is a very real possibilty they are not. You see, convicting sex offenses is like fishing for tuna--yes, you catch some tuna, but you also catch a lot of other aquatic life in the nets as well. And yes, you can get 99 years for "just chatting" depending on how the "investigation" conducted itself, and what it views as improper. As far as this case goes, I don't know any of the facts, so I am not going to say he did it, nor am I going to say he didn't do it. All I'm going to say is the truth--I don't know and don't have enough information to come to a proper conclusion. I do know that the Court system and those who act in its interest often get emotionally, personally, politically, and socially embroiled in a case where someone is accused of a "sex offense", and often will convict them of it even in the face of hard evidence that the person is innocent.

The whole reason I am responding to this thread, though, is because it seems to be that the label "sex offender" makes people quick to rush judgement. I'm going to say this--you have to look at the facts of each individual case and judge each person on their own individual case, not by the label that has been given to them. After all, you can label a can of corn as "Beans" but that doesn't make the content of that can beans, does it?

I've learned this through my own experience with the Court in it's prosecution of my husband of allegedly sexually molesting his daughter. This accusation was made by his then soon-to-be ex-wife, and he didn't even know that he was accused until the day he was arrested a year and a half later (after the accusation). In the mean time, their entire "case" was based on her words, and even though hard evidence was contradictory to the accusation, the judge for whatever motivations of his own, refused to let it drop (the prosecutor, who eventually started looking at the facts, was going to drop the case). Anyway, the frustration of watching this injustice unfold with no ability to do anything about it (and believe me, everything that was within our power to try we have done), knowing that we are facing an already biased Court, being separated from each other hundreds of miles apart, on top of all of life's other BS, had caused a strain on our marriage. Apparently, his ex-wife heard that we were having problems and the next time she was in Court she smirked at my husband and pointed at her ring finger meaningfully. (You have to realize, he got arrested 3 days after she found out he was remarried, and was really interested in what I looked like and what the wedding was like and who went there, and wouldn't get off of the subject--I think she had the fantasy that she and my husband would get back together and that she would wave her magic wand and the whole case would disappear, and when she found out that he had remarried her little bubble burst and she set out to destroy us).

I know this case inside and out, and I know a lot of intersting little facts that the Court refuses to listen to, as well. And his ex-wife's little gesture with the ring made me even more determined that our marriage will survive this. It rankles me to no end to see a woman such as her use the "justice" system as a weapon and a means to cause harm to my husband and myself. Yes, innocent people do get labeled as "sex offenders", and yes, so do real sex offenders. I have no doubt that in the future, people will look at me and judge me the same way you have done this woman--rashly, but I am willing to endure it because I stand for what I believe in, and what I believe in is truth. He will from now on have to bear this scarlet letter, at the sacrifice of his pride and integrity, so that we can get on with our life. We are tired of fighting this, tired of trying fight a mountain with a teaspoon, knowing that under the circumstances, even though facts and truth are on our side, that we cannot win. It is sad. We're just another dolphin in the net.

All I ask, is please keep an open mind when it comes to someone who is labeled as a sex offender. Yes, there are people who commit these crimes and justice should be served on them, but justice should also work for those who are innocent, and most of the time it doesn't. They need to find a balance between wanting to catch "the bad guy" and preserving the rights of those who are innocent. So far, this has not been achieved yet. It went from one end of the spectrum to the other. So just use your head, weigh the facts of the issue if you know them, and come to a logical conclusion.
 

CdwJava

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This one has a 99 year probation ... this is not some run-of-the-mill pervert who got caught in the tuna boat.

Carl
 

stephenk

Senior Member
"As far as this case goes, I don't know any of the facts"

So your argument is based on the fact your hubby is accused of sexual abuse? The poster's husband was convicted of the crime. Big difference.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Interesting ... I did a Google search for "lifetime probation Arizona" and found that a court case in the AZ court of appeals (3/18/04) overturned the probation for a man who was given lifetime probation for a class one misdemeanor of public sexual indecency. So apparently, they DO issue these out for minor matters.

However, it also seems that the key issue in the Appeals case was that the appelant was denied a termination of probation that he was eligible for under the law.

I also found that there is apparently a bill in AZ (HB 2135, I believe) that will clarify the issue to leave lifetime probation only for specified serious offenses, and for failing to register if the registration offense was a felony ... I could not find the status of that bill, so I do not kow if that is the law just yet.

So, while I find this very odd and unjust to put someone on probation and requiring them to register as a sex offender for something as benign as peeing in public, I do not generally have any problem with a lengthy probation and registration to people who solicit children. But, some of us (myself included) may have been a tad hasty in concluding that a lifetime probation is not handed out for nothing.

Though I will have to do more reading to determine how often and under what circumstances this condition might apply ... it gives me a task for tonight.

Carl
 

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