Should I be suspicious?

[abstract99]

What is the name of your state? Az

In the past 2 years my ex and her husband have bought the following:

1) A 198,000 dollar house

2) 2 new cars

3) Spent over $8,000 on eBay

4) Bought a $25,000 boat

5) Purchased roughly $4,000 in gun accessories.

6) Bought 4 Moped, dirtbike quads at about what I guess to be about $6,000 each.

Now because I am ex military and have a decent amount of friends that work with her new hubbie I know that the only thing that they financed was the house. However, according to their tax return they only make 25k a year combined. Does this seem odd to anyone else? Even with saving, at an income of 25,000 a year, they didn't make enough to buy all of these flat out. I don't think they could have been gifts.

 

[TheShortEnd]

I think someone might be pulling your chain. Financing a house at $198,000 would mean a house payment of $1,000+ (and probably closer to $1500 per month). You do the math ***** between $12,000 and $18,000 a year in house payments on a $25,000 per year combined income ***** how did they even qualify for a loan like that?

If they are spending on ebay, they may be earning on ebay and not reporting it. Maybe.

And please don't take this the wrong way, but is it really your concern how your ex and her husband spend their money? I see you have been around a lot longer than me, and I don't know your story. Are you paying a huge amount of support based on what she says her income is? I don't understand your question "Should I be suspicious" *** suspicious of what?

 

[haiku]

I think you are obsessing over something that is NOT your business.

concern yourself with your own life, and you will find yourself a much happier healthier person.

 

[stealth2]

I think you are obsessing over something that is NOT your business.

concern yourself with your own life, and you will find yourself a much happier healthier person.

Ditto. Move on along instead of having your friends snoop on the ex.

 

[critterperson]

What is the name of your state? Az

In the past 2 years my ex and her husband have bought the following:

1) A 198,000 dollar house

2) 2 new cars

3) Spent over $8,000 on eBay

4) Bought a $25,000 boat

5) Purchased roughly $4,000 in gun accessories.

6) Bought 4 Moped, dirtbike quads at about what I guess to be about $6,000 each.

Now because I am ex military and have a decent amount of friends that work with her new hubbie I know that the only thing that they financed was the house. However, according to their tax return they only make 25k a year combined. Does this seem odd to anyone else? Even with saving, at an income of 25,000 a year, they didn't make enough to buy all of these flat out. I don't think they could have been gifts.

If you are questioning his income because he is paying you child support based on an income you believe to be inaccurate, you have every right to question his income...In my county (I am in Illinois but my Grandmother owns property in AZ) you can go to the local assessor’s office and get a copy of the purchase price of the home. As far as the other stuff print out whatever you have found on eBay that totals $8000 and if you can have someone get pictures (preferably with them riding them) of the mopeds/quads on different dates so you can verify that they are actually theirs so they can't say "it was my friends moped etc and we were borrowing it" Take pics of the new cars and the boat (you may want to get a private investigator to do this so they can't claim you are stalking them. If you go online there are a lot of investigative companies that will do an asset search for you for minimal cost- under $1000) Also, a good attorney will also be able to help ascertain hidden assets and income…Good Luck!

 

[Ohiogal]

Critter,
OP is paying child support to his ex.

 

[LdiJ]

Abstract...your ex got her butt totalled in court...and well deserved....and got hit heavy on a financial basis. The judge is SERIOUSLY on your side.

Don't mix it up by raising child support issues now....particularly since her husband's income is irrelevant.

 

[critterperson]

Critter,
OP is paying child support to his ex.

Sorry, sometimes my brain doesn't engage! I just found out today that I am having another baby So for the next 9 months my brain power might be limited...
Thanks for letting me know

 

[ezmarelda]

Sorry, sometimes my brain doesn't engage! I just found out today that I am having another baby So for the next 9 months my brain power might be limited...
Thanks for letting me know

ok...I am getting seriously depressed...everybody I know(well not everybody but a lot of them) are expecting....even a few who were NOT trying and are not too happy about it but nooo not me...even after trying for 8 months now.....
oh well...guess I'll go try again!



edit too add...congrats critter!

 

[tigger22472]

I think you are obsessing over something that is NOT your business.

concern yourself with your own life, and you will find yourself a much happier healthier person.

I agree with you and Stealth... this is NOT his business!!

 

[Ohiogal]

Sorry, sometimes my brain doesn't engage! I just found out today that I am having another baby So for the next 9 months my brain power might be limited...
Thanks for letting me know

Congrats critter! And welcome to the ranks!

 

[Ohiogal]

ok...I am getting seriously depressed...everybody I know(well not everybody but a lot of them) are expecting....even a few who were NOT trying and are not too happy about it but nooo not me...even after trying for 8 months now.....
oh well...guess I'll go try again!



edit too add...congrats critter!

Oh eme sorry to hear that. Don't get depressed. It can happen! I was infertile for many years and now I am not. And try to look at somewhat the bright side -- the practice can be fun!

 

[tigger22472]

Congrats critter! And welcome to the ranks!

Ya'll better hope it's not in the water here at FA! For one I would have A LOT of explaining to do consider husband was 'broken' 10 years ago. For two, my kids and I reluctantly admit myself are too old to 'start over.' I used to have the baby blues and get jealous, now if that happens I just call someone up who has little ones and it too soon passes.

 

[tigger22472]

oh well...guess I'll go try again!

That's what my husband used to tell me when I used to get that way. He wanted to try and try and try.... I kept telling him he was shooting blanks... but to make him feel better I would comply....

 

[Gracie3787]

I agree with you and Stealth... this is NOT his business!!

Normally I agree with all of you and I respect your knowledge. I'm not sure of what OP's EXACT situation is but for other NCP's who might read this I have to disagree that this is none of OP's business.

Arizona is a state that uses income shares, both parents' incomes are used to determine CS. For that reason if a NCP suspects that the CP has lied about thier income and it has effected the amount of CS ordered, they have every right to discover the correct income.

To OP:
I have to agree with another poster who commented that you are going about getting the info in the wrong way. IF you or ex have a motion or petition pending you would need to subpoena the documents/witnesses that prove ex lied about income and go from there. From what info you have posted, yes I personally believe that you have a right to be suspicious- the most important reason is that a household income of $25k isn't going to be enough to get a mortgage loan that size, without a huge down payment. Now, it might be that ex's spouse recieved money that expalins alot of things purchased, but again, you have to subpoena documents to get absolute proof.
As I said, I don't know you're whole situation, if this is an issue that has already been brought up in court and ruled on, then it would not be any of your business, but only because you wouldn't be able to do anything about it legally.

Just want other NCP's in other income shares states to know that exs' true income are their business.
Gracie