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CMSC

Senior Member
Just wanted to add a little. You need to check the laws, did the private school tell you they did not need to provide speech therapy for your child?

My daughter went to a private school last year and the special needs laws applied the same as if she were in public school. Any therapist that does work for the public schools should be providing it to private schools as well...meaning if the therapist sees children during school hours at the pub. school he/she will see them at the private school also.
 

Grace_Adler

Senior Member
LOL Krisp! Whoopsie! Sorry bout that. Gotta watch out for these klodhoppers. LMAO

Yeah you may need to check the laws because here, well this is what I was "told" I didn't verify *all* of it. Some of it I do know to be true however. One of the private schools here does not have speech therapy and the guy at the board of ed. who oversees the stuff told the speech therapist she could not go down to the public school to see them, they had to come to her. She asked if she could and he told her no and the school is literally 3 minutes down the street. Of course I have had a bad experience with this guy and I have "heard" some negative things about him so I don't know if this was his call only or what. So, anyway, any children that need it can attend it but you do have to work around their time slots to whatever they have available and you do have to provide transportation. If they say all they have is from 1pm to 1:30pm, that's what you have to take or you don't get it. At least that is the way it works here. But yeah, check with your area just to see what they say. Maybe they can come to the school there? I dunno.
 

luckymom

Member
to Grace

Thanks for the thoughtful reponse on the scheduling issue. The point is that the private therapist will come to daughter's school during in the late afternoon while she is in afterschool. I don't have to leave work (Yes, folks, it is a problem) and daughter doesn't miss part of the school day. She is not in special ed, so none of that bureaucratic procedure is relevent. She's a bright overachiever with a speech impediment. Out of pocket expenses after insurance is $30 per session. Ex's portion is $15.00. He refuses to pay saying it is not "medical." Pediatrician says its medical, speech pathologist says its medical, speech therapist says its medical.

I am just going to save my receipts and take the ex to court on arrears.
 
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krispenstpeter

Guest
He refuses to pay saying it is not "medical." Pediatrician says its medical, speech pathologist says its medical, speech therapist says its medical.

And until the COURT says it's medical, you won't get a dime.
 

nextwife

Senior Member
Have you had audiology screening? Many speech problems are related to unrealized (and sometimes transitory) hearing deficits. Audiology screening SHOULD preceed speech therapy.
 
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krispenstpeter

Guest
Just have to have have the last word, right? How pathetic.

Sorry sweetie, but the COURT will have the last word.
And don't hold your breath if the COURT determines that this is not medical but changes the existing order to include it.

Because, if it's not deemed medical you won't be getting BACK support. Just future support.
 

Tinaa

Member
Now I understand. You think special ed is just for dummies. You refuse to allow your child to be "labeled." Your child is too bright to need special ed services. Makes sence. If your ex is smart, he can probably fight this, and win. Private schools must also follow federal laws. Check out IDEA if you are really interested. But, I forgot, your child doesn't need special services. She only needs speech. I doubt it affects her physically, so it is probably not medical.
 

nextwife

Senior Member
" She is not in special ed, so none of that bureaucratic procedure is relevent. She's a bright overachiever with a speech impediment"

Tinaa, I read it the same way. It's not "special ed" because the child is bright and does well academically. As if a child can't be both (special ed and bright).

Language production difficulty IS a special need. And perhaps the cause of the speech production problem is also a special need.
 
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krispenstpeter

Guest
And I have to agree with nexie (although she needs to go respond to HG :D). Both my daughters were in special education classes for a year when we moved from Germany the U.S. Not because they were handicapped but because they spoke not one word of English.

That has been 4 years now and they are both straight A students (although, as girls, still a pain in the Wallet, among other things):D:D:D
 

Tinaa

Member
I decided to get out my copy of Procedural Safeguards put out by the Special Education Department of the Texas Education Agency which probably is similar to the laws in other states because this covers federal laws. And it seems I was wrong. :eek: I deal only with the public school, however, our therapists do go to the private schools in the area. If your child was previously enrolled in a public school you may expect to get free services, but as you said, you'll have to go by their schedule. If the public school was not meeting your child's special needs, you may even be able to make the school district to pay for the private school. As Grace mentioned, speech therapists usualy on visit a couple of times a week for only 30 minutes. The court will have to decide this one. It seems the gov't only guarantees these free services for children in public school. I still don't think speech therapy is a medical need, maybe psychological (self-esteem, etc.).
 

luckymom

Member
OK. Here it goes again. While TX has jurisdiction, we live in Illinois. I have checked out recieving therapy through the public school. It would entail going to a school about 1/2 hr away (one way) for a 30 minute session once a week. My daughter would have to be scheduled in between other students, so I would have to call in each Monday to find out what slot would work and it would be during school hours, so my daughter will be missing 2 hours of regular school each week. This does not make sense that to save ex the $15 per week it would cost to have an hour session at her school after school.

Some of you really need to get beyond the issue of whether there is wiggle room for NCP to get out of paying some portion of what the child needs.

As for your take on my use of "special needs," I am sorry if I offended anyone. That certainly wasn't my intention.

To this person who recommended having her hearing tested. Again, this was done as part of the initial evaluation by the speech pathologist. Her hearing is fine.
 

Tinaa

Member
Most of us are CPs. I always prepare for the worst, hope for the best. A judge may or may not make your ex pay. Now you have to ask if it is worth a trip to Texas to go to court?
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
luckymom said:
Some of you really need to get beyond the issue of whether there is wiggle room for NCP to get out of paying some portion of what the child needs.

However, this is exactly the point. Depending on exactly what your order says, he may LEGALLY not be required to pay. Or he may be. It's impossible to say w/o knowing how the relevant portion of the order is worded.
 

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