Spousal Support Question - Retirement Age

[tuffbrk]

It's the laws that are at fault. How people are treated through the courts should be based on a set of standards as much as possible. There currently are no standards applied and, quite seriously, they need to be developed.

Whether or not your ex spouse is a jack@ss should not matter when you're in a court room. Especially when it comes to a government entity mandating payments out of your paycheck. A jack@ss should be treated exactly the same as a gentleman. That's how it works for child support - alimony should be no different.

 

[Bali Hai]

Leave the poor old mugged lady alone! She didn't sleep with and marry your ex wife, either!

What the hell does that have anything to do with the unfair and disparaging treatment men get in divorce court??

Tough sh!t, you married her and now your ass belongs to her??

Try making some sense with your posts!

 

[wileybunch]

What the hell does that have anything to do with the unfair and disparaging treatment men get in divorce court??

Tough sh!t, you married her and now your ass belongs to her??

Try making some sense with your posts!

Follow your own threads. I am -- you should, too.

Now if you would quit disrespecting the honorable woman for whom this advice is being sought and stick your issues back into your own bag of doom, that would at least show some tidbit of respect for women as I can assure you my mother doesn't know you, your judge, the women you sleep with, the legislators that put your state's laws in place, and has never placed a vote in your state for any of your family court judges.

 

[IrishLady47]

Keep in mind that the system women set up, let her get away with it!

How exactly did women set this up? Let's see, every state has a legislative body that passes laws for that state. Every state has a judicial branch with judges appointed or elected to decide how to apply those laws to each case.

Please name me ONE state in which the MEN are the minority in the state legislature or in the judicial branch.

If the "system" is set up to favor women, then it is MEN who set it up that way!!

 

[LdiJ]

How exactly did women set this up? Let's see, every state has a legislative body that passes laws for that state. Every state has a judicial branch with judges appointed or elected to decide how to apply those laws to each case.

Please name me ONE state in which the MEN are the minority in the state legislature or in the judicial branch.

If the "system" is set up to favor women, then it is MEN who set it up that way!!

Here here!

Women are still the minority in all branches of government....yet Bali still wants to blame it all on women.

 

[Bali Hai]

How exactly did women set this up? Let's see, every state has a legislative body that passes laws for that state.

With the women's movement lobby. Of course no politician listens to women right??

Every state has a judicial branch with judges appointed or elected to decide how to apply those laws to each case.

Yeap, the judges do what they think is the correct thing to do under the law.

Please name me ONE state in which the MEN are the minority in the state legislature or in the judicial branch.

That doesn't matter, and if you think it seriously does, you are an idiot!!

If the "system" is set up to favor women, then it is MEN who set it up that way!!

I'm not going to argue with a nit wit!!

 

[wileybunch]

Bali Hai, just marry better than you did before. I know my ex enjoyed the fruits of my very lucrative labor. Once you drop your 'tude, it may be possible for you to do!

 

[Bali Hai]

Bali Hai, just marry better than you did before.

Not a chance wiley, there was no better, nor will be any better! Should have known that from the start, but you live and learn!! Unless of course you're counting horse sh!t!!

I know my ex enjoyed the fruits of my very lucrative labor.

Give me a break, you've got more horsesh!t than the horse!!

Once you drop your 'tude, it may be possible for you to do!

My "tude" will be with me as long as I'm alive and you can count on that!!

 

[wileybunch]

My "tude" will be with me as long as I'm alive and you can count on that!!

Yippee.

I hope I got enough relevant advice to help MY MOM at this point.
And, if YOUR MOM were in such a situation, I hope you would want to help her, too.

 

[Bali Hai]

Yippee.

I hope I got enough relevant advice to help MY MOM at this point.
And, if YOUR MOM were in such a situation, I hope you would want to help her, too.

Your MOM needs a lawyer as you were advised at the beginning of your thread.

And you need to butt out of their business, because you will only piss your father off with your "tude".

 

[wileybunch]

Your MOM needs a lawyer as you were advised at the beginning of your thread.

And you need to butt out of their business, because you will only piss your father off with your "tude".

Everyone needs a lawyer. Not everyone gets one. I asked a question and you can either answer it or not, your choice. My mother doesn't need a lawyer if they agree to something, but she needs to know what she's in for. A number of years ago she consulted an attorney who told her she would likely be on the hook for spousal support, but now she's 69. She does not trust attorneys. She can consult w/one or she could come up with a suggested split and see an attorney if it looks like they cannot agree or he gets an attorney.

You are a cruel son if you would "butt out" if your mother was looking for support from you going through a divorce from a man she's been in a shell marriage with for 19 years. As you might have guessed, I'm older than 19 so he's not my father. You could have also figured that out from my very first post where I explained she had just gotten out of a long term marriage w/my dad (why she married someone that she shouldn't have). And, remember, my mom was the rock that allowed my dad to have a large family and do all the things that we did, you know, this blood sucking woman she must have been being a WOMAN and all, just trying to drain the man dry.

There's nothing indicated in what I've said to make you think that my helping my mom would "piss" her husband off. Him getting to keep his house with far more equity in it is a more than equitable distribution, but you can't calm down enough to suggest something useful and then pull the "see an attorney" card. You could have ranted on any thread -- stay out of this one.

 

[Bali Hai]

Everyone needs a lawyer. Not everyone gets one. I asked a question and you can either answer it or not, your choice. My mother doesn't need a lawyer if they agree to something, but she needs to know what she's in for. A number of years ago she consulted an attorney who told her she would likely be on the hook for spousal support, but now she's 69. She does not trust attorneys. She can consult w/one or she could come up with a suggested split and see an attorney if it looks like they cannot agree or he gets an attorney.

You are a cruel son if you would "butt out" if your mother was looking for support from you going through a divorce from a man she's been in a shell marriage with for 19 years. As you might have guessed, I'm older than 19 so he's not my father. You could have also figured that out from my very first post where I explained she had just gotten out of a long term marriage w/my dad (why she married someone that she shouldn't have). And, remember, my mom was the rock that allowed my dad to have a large family and do all the things that we did, you know, this blood sucking woman she must have been being a WOMAN and all, just trying to drain the man dry.

There's nothing indicated in what I've said to make you think that my helping my mom would "piss" her husband off. Him getting to keep his house with far more equity in it is a more than equitable distribution, but you can't calm down enough to suggest something useful and then pull the "see an attorney" card. You could have ranted on any thread -- stay out of this one.

Your mother wants a divorce and doesn't want to pay alimony or be financially responsible for her spouse in any way.

You could have just made that point without all the other hot air!!

Guess what, all men want the same thing your mother wants, but it doesn't work that way!

 

[wileybunch]

Your mother wants a divorce and doesn't want to pay alimony or be financially responsible for her spouse in any way.

You could have just made that point without all the other hot air!!

Guess what, all men want the same thing your mother wants, but it doesn't work that way!

You really have a reading comprehension problem. Her husband has $650K more equity in his home than she does in hers. She is entitled to 1/2 of the $800K equity -- he's entitled to none of hers per a legal agreement they have. Is it that hard for you to do that math? How much do you think my 69 year old Mom will be making that will surpass the $400K equity she's giving up of his? She can't stay working where she is now in Silicon Valley as I mentioned b/c of the high cost of living and we would like her just to transition to retirement, period (she's 69, remember?), but she will probably continue to work, but it will mean changing gears when leaving the area. The job she does is only valid in defense/aerospace so it's likely she will go into teaching and obtain a different license than she has now in teaching (which was also obtained in the past 10 years).

What kind of system do you envision that would force a 69 year old woman w/a bachelor's degree in business obtained at age 55 to support a man into some time period (for you, probably till she dies) that has had a master's degree in chemistry since his 20's? Please. Even w/o considering the other facts like he makes ~$2500/mo renting out rooms in his home and does stock trading so he has an income -- what makes you think she's on the hook to tow his line in the *first place*?

I wish you would stop posting on this site. No one cares about your personal agenda. I surely don't. You're not even knowledgeable of the law.

 

[Bali Hai]

You really have a reading comprehension problem. Her husband has $650K more equity in his home than she does in hers. She is entitled to 1/2 of the $800K equity -- he's entitled to none of hers per a legal agreement they have. Is it that hard for you to do that math? How much do you think my 69 year old Mom will be making that will surpass the $400K equity she's giving up of his? She can't stay working where she is now in Silicon Valley as I mentioned b/c of the high cost of living and we would like her just to transition to retirement, period (she's 69, remember?), but she will probably continue to work, but it will mean changing gears when leaving the area. The job she does is only valid in defense/aerospace so it's likely she will go into teaching and obtain a different license than she has now in teaching (which was also obtained in the past 10 years).

What kind of system do you envision that would force a 69 year old woman w/a bachelor's degree in business obtained at age 55 to support a man into some time period (for you, probably till she dies) that has had a master's degree in chemistry since his 20's? Please. Even w/o considering the other facts like he makes ~$2500/mo renting out rooms in his home and does stock trading so he has an income -- what makes you think she's on the hook to tow his line in the *first place*?

I wish you would stop posting on this site. No one cares about your personal agenda. I surely don't. You're not even knowledgeable of the law.

I'm knowledgeable enough to know that if your parents can't come to an agreement, a judge will decide their case and NOBODY here knows what that decision will be or have enough information to make an accurate forecast.

Personally I hope she gets whacked with alimony. We need more women in general to be paying alimony.

 

[wileybunch]

I'm knowledgeable enough to know that if your parents can't come to an agreement, a judge will decide their case and NOBODY here knows what that decision will be or have enough information to make an accurate forecast.

The question was based primary on age and, yes, someone could make an educated guess with a foundation for why they are saying so. You can't make an educated argument b/c you're stuck on biotch. Poor you.

Personally I hope she gets whacked with alimony. We need more women in general to be paying alimony.

Sure, why not? She can pay him alimony from her social security earnings or work herself into an early grave to pay for an educated user. Stop trying to convince everyone how screwed over the innocent ppl are. You've clearly shown you're not innocent.