Stage 4 Neuroblastoma in a 3 year old (Malpractice) South Carolina

[rmet4nzkx]

As I said early on this is not a support group. We evaluate based on facts in evodence not your emotions. The legal system is blind to such things and it is adveserial in nature, these are facts to which you must become accustomed. You do owe us an appology the closest you have come thus far is to admit that you know very little and you ASSUMED WRONG! That is not an appology.

You are quibbling with words, the fact is most children who present with neuroblastomas present late and with a poor prognosis. That is a FACT. The doctor may have tried to offer hope or explain the poor prognosis and it may have been heard differently than intended, that is why I printed the stats out. There is much you don't and never will understand and none of this helps the child or his family.

I was the one to bring up the issue of mental helath issues because the facts you presented suggest "Factious Disorder by Proxy" I tried to be kind by not directly naming it, it will be a question if there is a lawsuit.

What did I do about the care of my child with a chronic infection? I cared for my child and did what was best for him at the time, I obtained appropriate medical care. I am not responsible that the infection was not knocked out by the medication or that my son also had genetic disorder, which I didn't know at that time either, there is no one to sue everytime someone is ill or dies.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

"Who knows, if you were involved directly with the pt's care you may have, with your attitude even interferred with their care."

No, I was not involved - But this statement is really sick. It really is. You are a sick person and to think that I OWE YOU AN APOLOGY?

Gross. I need a shower. I can't believe I invested so much time here.

You were the one who claimed that you accompanied patient and mother to appointments. That makes it sound like you were involved at least you had some influence, why didn't you insist they seek a second opinion or appeal their insurance decisions? You are very defensive, WHY?

 

[panzertanker]

As for offering anyone an apology, you must be joking. Go back and REREAD this thread. Read the tone, the sarcasm, the inferrence that this woman must have been happy with the care her son was receiving, read the comments regarding Munchausen syndrome. Read the posts. Read them. Either you are blind or are choosing to believe that everyone here 'really does want to help' and are living in fantasy land.

I am the one owed an apology. I'm not waiting around on it either. I am sure my chances are better with a malpractice lawsuit.

I am done posting here. While YOUR advice may be well intentioned, even you have poor tone which immediately puts people on the defensive. If you are aware of this fact (and clearly you are) and your intent is to help.. why not change the tone? Especially knowing that asking the exact same question a different way can yeild immeidiate results (as opposed to three pages of posts)? One would believe that you must enjoy this sort of bantering which simply means that you clearly do belong here where mockery is apparently the standard.

I am signing off. No need to stick around.

If you re read the post as you have suggested WE do, you will see that I asked and suggested that the mother must be hppy with the care since she sought NO other input from ANY other provider.

Why are you so hostile when I have not been that way to you? If you were to tell me YOU went back to YOUR doctor 3 x a week for 6 months b/c you were sick, I would immediately ask you the samequestions:
1. Why haven't you gone to someone else?
2. Did he/she run any tests?
3. What treatment are they giving you?

Go to work and tell your co-workers you have been feeling badly for 6 months and that you have been going to the SAME doc 3 x a week for the last 6 months and they will ak you the same questions. They are NOT unreasonable, and they are the SAME questions you will get from the lawyer if you have one take the case.

Make dispariging remarks about me, I don'tmind. I NEVER made any about you. I correctly told snoogiejj1 to get out and mind his/her own business as you were getting help from us. That is why we are here. No one was rude until YOU told us that we were off base. That is entirely untrue.

As for my pt's, I take EXCELLENT care of them, and my practice includes pediatrics. I see babies everyday. You have no idea what you speak of regarding me, so don't throw out assinine remarks when I have not done so to you.

Did I call you an a$$hole? No, but at this moment you have acted like one to me and it would be WELL within my rights to do so since you felt COMPELLED to attack me.
But I still maintain my original posts. I was trying to help you and the mom and boy. If you find that a reason to attack me, I feel sorry for you, and them. Your attitude can have an effect on them, more than you know...

 

[panzertanker]

here is a copy of my posts to you.

Where did you see me acting incorrectly?????

Somebody call me???

I agree with both responses: have your friend take their case to a medmal atty in your area.

I question why she chose to go to the 'family practice' MD 3 x week for 6 months and NEVER go visit another provider (you state she needed to be referred, but as you point out that a parent wants the best for their child, I read her visits to mean she was happy with the care she saw her son receiving otherwise she would not have gone back so frequently). That is over 70 visits in 6 months time... What other tests were performed on the boy? You are telling me that a doc sees a pt roughly 3 x a week and NO bloodwork/urine was performed???
I am stumped as to that being true. Have you seen the records?

You state you will give us more info:
I am asking for just that. I think it is trajic that it has happened, and am not blaming the mother. I just want to know if there were truly NO tests performed at all.

Why can she not get her records???
I don't find it odd that she has not called to check on the boy, I have pt's dx everyday with terminal dz and cannot possibly call them all to check on them. It is not a flipant attitude, it is the sad truth of how busy we ALL are.

I again reiterate the rhetorical statement:
If mom continued to take son to doc, she MUST have been satisfied with care she perceived he was getting. Otherwise, why not go to a Pediatrician for a second opinion? Or ask ENT to check out problem? Many other scenarios. I feel that until you have the chart, which you claim you do not and neither does mom, that time has clouded memory and that some testing was performed. Maybe not the testing that would have found the blastoma, but some none the less. Out of exasperation I would perform tests on a healthy person to ease their mind if they continued to see me 3 X a week for 6 months!!!

The only recourse I see is to get the atty involved and see if there is anything in here for a case.

Ummm... incorrect. All three of us have licenses of varying degrees. We are not making up our responses, we have experience that guides our replies.

No one said you did not have a case. As both rmet and ellen have pointed out, you need to prepare the mother for the upcoming challenge of defending her actions in a court if she chooses to go that route.

Unfortunately, you are 'exiting this forum' feeling like this thread has taken a downhill turn, you are seriously mistaken. All three of us have taken time and care to help you understand the situation, and to offer our advice. There are many times that the wording we use is much harsher than you have experienced. "kit gloves" have been used by us when responding to you, and that is unusual as you are no relation to the mother or the boy, just a friend by your own admission.

Calm down, answer our questions, and we will try to help. Get angry and leave, and lose valuable responses from experienced and knowledgable people... your choice.

I reiterate this previous statement:
Calm down, answer our questions, and we will try to help. Get angry and leave, and lose valuable responses from experienced and knowledgable people... your choice

 

[panzertanker]

"I don't find it odd that she has not called to check on the boy, I have pt's dx everyday with terminal dz and cannot possibly call them all to check on them. It is not a flipant attitude, it is the sad truth of how busy we ALL are"

Of COURSE YOU don't have time to call and check on anyone. You are FAR TOO busy abusing everyone on a "free advice" website. That in and of itself is pathetic AT BEST. Secondly, it's no surprise that SO MANY OF YOUR PATIENTS ARE DIAGNOSED AS TERMINAL! Good G-d, can't imagine the missed diagnosis THERE. I seriously question the validity of your credentials. I'm guessing Sally Struther's University, perhaps? Did you TRAIN AT HOME for that degree? Only morons such as yourself would take SUCH pleasure in taking advantage of others who unknowingly stumble into this nightmare of a website for a little guidance. WHAT A LOSER YOU ARE. TRULY. YOUR MOTHER MUST BE SO PROUD. GOTTA RUN. Wouldn't want to hold you up. I know HOW BUSY YOU ARE beating up everyone with your EVER SO HELPFUL ADVICE. Such the busy professional, barking garbage and slinging insults from your little corner of the world.

YOU SUCK and so do your accomplices. Reading back through this thread I could kick myself in the ass for responding after post #1.

For all of the newbies here, RUN (don't walk) from this Jerry Springer side show. There are PLENTY OF GOOD websites offering DECENT SOUND LEGAL ADVICE, MINUS THE IDIOTS AND INSULTS.

I just cannot imagine WHERE this came from. Read my posts. Where was I "taking advantage of others who unknowingly stumble into this nightmare"???

I gave you SOUND, LOGICAL and COMPASSIONATE advice. Read, you will see.
As for my mother, she is VERY proud of me. Especially when she hears how much restraint I used when replying to you EVEN AFTER you attacked me for NO GOOD REASON...

It actually shows how much we care that we take the time out of our day to help you and answer questions. But I guess you don't see that. And you disagree. And you think I am a moron. And you question my credentials.
Whatever. I tried to help...it is a shame you won't listen.....sad.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

As you can see, Ellen, Panzentanker and myself all gave you detailed and professional responses, you were the one with the attitude. We all took time out of our day to help, Panzertanker responded to you again after hours because he is busy treating patients.

I would suggest, since you claim that you are not personally involved, although I doubt that, that if and or when mom consults the med-mal attorney, that you stay out of it. This mom is going through too much to have any additional stress created by your interference. If you attended appointments with the child and his mother and you did nothing then, you shouldn't talk or threaten the medial professionals who have treated this child.

Please for the sake of this child get some perspective.