Standing in a handicapped space -- New York

[Norman Rogers]

I have long understood the difference between parking (car left unattended) and standing (licensed driver at the wheel). And NYC parking signage makes the distinction.

My question: What about handicapped parking spaces? Is it legal to stand in a handicapped parking space (and to move your vehicle if a handicapped-eligible vehicle needs the space)?

I had words with a mall security guy at Woodbridge Commons about this.

How 'bout some advice from someone who knows the law.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

I have long understood the difference between parking (car left unattended) and standing (licensed driver at the wheel). And NYC parking signage makes the distinction.

My question: What about handicapped parking spaces? Is it legal to stand in a handicapped parking space (and to move your vehicle if a handicapped-eligible vehicle needs the space)?

I had words with a mall security guy at Woodbridge Commons about this.

How 'bout some advice from someone who knows the law.

Parking, standing or in any unauthorized way using a disabled parking space is a violation. Why should a disabled person have to wait or look for another space because it is convienent for you to use it?

 

[Happy Trails]

I have long understood the difference between parking (car left unattended) and standing (licensed driver at the wheel). And NYC parking signage makes the distinction.

My question: What about handicapped parking spaces? Is it legal to stand in a handicapped parking space (and to move your vehicle if a handicapped-eligible vehicle needs the space)?

I had words with a mall security guy at Woodbridge Commons about this.

How 'bout some advice from someone who knows the law.

You shouldn't even pull into a parking space that is designated for handicapped parking. You have no business in that space. Why should you inconvenience people who are in need of a closer place to park? When you look at your dash, it does show the letter "P"; there is no "S" for your transmission.

 

[Norman Rogers]

Replies to rmet4nzkx and Happy Trails

Wow, did I step on someone's toes?

rmet4nzkx tells us, Parking, standing or in any unauthorized way using a disabled parking space is a violation. Why should a disabled person have to wait or look for another space because it is convienent for you to use it

And Happy trails adds, You shouldn't even pull into a parking space that is designated for handicapped parking. You have no business in that space. Why should you inconvenience people who are in need of a closer place to park? When you look at your dash, it does show the letter "P"; there is no "S" for your transmission.

Guys, I was look for someone who knew the law. You guys don't, so I did a little googling.

The New York State Consolidated Laws: Vehicle & Traffic, Article 32, STOPPING, STANDING AND PARKING make the distinctions I was looking for, and it's not a violation to STAND or STOP in a handicapped parking space.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cach...rk+vehicle+and+traffic&hl=en&client=firefox-a

Now let's deal with your umbrage. HOW DARE I STAND IN A HANDICAPPED SPACE, I'm asked. Why the hell not? The distinction between standing and parking is that if a genuine cripple shows up I'd be happy to move. Gee, would I be inconveniencing him or her? Yeah, for the 10 seconds it might take me to start my car and move it out of the way -- and like there aren't likely two or three more vacant handicapped spots adjacent to the one I'd be sitting in.

It seems to me that the two posters are self-styled victims, full of misery and demanding that everyone feel sorry for them. So life dealt you some lousy cards. So what?

 

[panzertanker]

Wow, did I step on someone's toes?

rmet4nzkx tells us, Parking, standing or in any unauthorized way using a disabled parking space is a violation. Why should a disabled person have to wait or look for another space because it is convienent for you to use it

And Happy trails adds, You shouldn't even pull into a parking space that is designated for handicapped parking. You have no business in that space. Why should you inconvenience people who are in need of a closer place to park? When you look at your dash, it does show the letter "P"; there is no "S" for your transmission.

Guys, I was look for someone who knew the law. You guys don't, so I did a little googling.

The New York State Consolidated Laws: Vehicle & Traffic, Article 32, STOPPING, STANDING AND PARKING make the distinctions I was looking for, and it's not a violation to STAND or STOP in a handicapped parking space.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cach...rk+vehicle+and+traffic&hl=en&client=firefox-a

Now let's deal with your umbrage. HOW DARE I STAND IN A HANDICAPPED SPACE, I'm asked. Why the hell not? The distinction between standing and parking is that if a genuine cripple shows up I'd be happy to move. Gee, would I be inconveniencing him or her? Yeah, for the 10 seconds it might take me to start my car and move it out of the way -- and like there aren't likely two or three more vacant handicapped spots adjacent to the one I'd be sitting in.

It seems to me that the two posters are self-styled victims, full of misery and demanding that everyone feel sorry for them. So life dealt you some lousy cards. So what?

So, if you knew the answer, or were able to look it up (as you state you did) why bother us here with your question???
If you don't like the responses, don't ask questions. This site is:
A. Free
B. For people seeking legal advice
C. Not for people with thin skin
D. Not for people who refer to handicapped persons as "cripples"

So, pack your bags and drag your sorry a$$ off to "stand" in a handicapped person's parking spot. And I sincerely hope that a city police officer writes you a ticket for "parking" in a handicap spot and you have to take the time and money to fight it...
Is it REALLY that difficult for you to "stand" in a spot that is not designated handicapped?
Jees, what a dufus you are!!!

 

[panzertanker]

The distinction between standing and parking is that if a genuine cripple shows up I'd be happy to move. Gee, would I be inconveniencing him or her? Yeah, for the 10 seconds it might take me to start my car and move it out of the way -- and like there aren't likely two or three more vacant handicapped spots adjacent to the one I'd be sitting in.

I guess you would not be too upset if I "stood" in your driveway every night and moved when you came home...
It would only take me 10 seconds to start my truck and get out of your way.....

 

[You Are Guilty]

Oh geez, this is just priceless. I'll let the statutes speak for themselves

S 1203-b. Parking spaces; handicapped. \
1. (not important)
[highlight]2. It shall be a violation for any person to stop, stand or park a
vehicle in any area designated as a place for handicapped parking unless
the vehicle bears a permit issued under section one thousand two hundred
three-a or a registration issued under section four hundred four-a of
this chapter and such vehicle is being used for the transportation of a
severely disabled or handicapped person. This subdivision shall not
apply to a violation of section twelve hundred three-c of this chapter.[/highlight]

S 1203-c. Off street parking spaces for the handicapped.
1. (not important)
2. (not important)
3. (not important)
4. [highlight]Except as otherwise provided by local law which imposes a larger
maximum fine, any person who stops, stands or parks in spaces clearly
marked for use by the handicapped in accordance with this section, with-
out a special vehicle identification parking permit, a special municipal
parking permit or whose motor vehicle is not registered in accordance
with section four hundred four-a of this chapter and being used for the
transportation of a handicapped person; or with such permit or registra-
tion and such person is not the one to whom the permit or registration
was issued or is not transporting the person issued the permit or regis-
tration; shall be subject to a fine of not less than fifty dollars nor
more than seventy-five dollars for the first offense and seventy-five to
one hundred fifty dollars for the second offense occurring within a
period of two years within the same municipality. [/highlight]The arresting or tick-
eting officer shall issue a summons to violators of this section. A
ticketing officer issuing a summons pursuant to this section may provide
for the removal and storage of a motor vehicle illegally parked.

Some people

 

[Happy Trails]

Norman Rogers writes:
It seems to me that the two posters are self-styled victims, full of misery and demanding that everyone feel sorry for them. So life dealt you some lousy cards. So what.

You are wrong. I was dealt a wonderful hand.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Oh geez, this is just priceless. I'll let the statutes speak for themselves




Some people

Thank you for citing the code, obviously Norm isn't so "normal" after all since he can't read and just came here for a fight, maybe he has been here before?

 

[You Are Guilty]

Norman Rogers writes:
It seems to me that the two posters are self-styled victims, full of misery and demanding that everyone feel sorry for them. So life dealt you some lousy cards. So what.

You are wrong. I was dealt a wonderful hand.

Norman Rogers also wrote

The New York State Consolidated Laws: Vehicle & Traffic, Article 32, STOPPING, STANDING AND PARKING make the distinctions I was looking for, and it's not a violation to STAND or STOP in a handicapped parking space.

And he couldn't possibly be any more wrong. Why would you expect him to get anything correct?

 

[wirry1422]

According to the NY State Statutes posted by "you are guilty", which i myself have verified, you are so screwed. As a person with a handicapped relative, i know that many times people stop and stand in handicapped spots. The problem is that when my poor aunt comes up behind them to park, they either don't see her or don't care. They stay until the cop shows up to tell them to move. So my aunt not wanting to fight with people or get assaulted will often not even bother honking to get their attention, as it usually does no good anyway. So when she sees someone standing in a hanicapped spt, she just looks for another spot. So how in the world would she know that you, Norman, would be the one person who is supposidly willing to move. Because of your assinine standing, she would be out-of-luck for parking within a mile of the door at a busy mall. You don't seem to understand that the handicapped spot is different from normal no parking zones. The law treats them as sacrosanct in all states, because of the federal ADA, meaning that there is nowhere in the nation where someone without authorization can legally utilize a handicapped spot in any way (stopping, standing, parking, blocking or any other adjectives). You can and will be ticketed every time you are observed, and in many areas, mall security, or the handicapped person themselves, can sign an affidavit on the citation as witnesses to your transgression, so you may find the ticket is in the mail. And it is not a cheap ticket (minimum $150, up to max of $500 in most areas) So you just keep standing in those handicapped spots, Norman. A$$holes like you are what keeps our government well funded.