Student Rights

[lebel1886]

My son after getting off his school bus and crossing
the street flipped off the bus.I don't approve,and we
had a talk.The school punished him by making him go to
school on Saturday,he didn't tell me he had Saturday
school so he didn't go,the school then suspended him for
2 days.My question is does the school have the right to
punish him for something he did after school when he was not on school property?I live in Ohio.

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

My son after getting off his school bus and crossing
the street flipped off the bus.I don't approve,and we
had a talk.The school punished him by making him go to
school on Saturday,he didn't tell me he had Saturday
school so he didn't go,the school then suspended him for
2 days.My question is does the school have the right to
punish him for something he did after school when he was not on school property?I live in Ohio.

My response:

No. I think every parent should allow their child to "flip someone the bird", and also swear at adults. Respect ? What the hell is that ?

Obviously, you're more concerned with the "punishment" than you are with the manners and upbringing of your child. Since you don't know how to "rear" your child, and since your child hasn't been taught the difference between "right and wrong", who else than the school is in a better position to mete out proper punishment ?

I would think that you'd be happy that someone is trying to see to it that your child grows up to be a respectful citizen, since you can't do it. If you would have taught your child properly from the beginning, then your child would never have "flipped" the bird in the first place.

IAAL

 

[lebel1886]

WOW!You are really full of $hit.My first reply on these
boards and I get sombody who makes his reply based on
negative things that he assumes.

You said:No. I think every parent should allow their child to "flip someone the bird", and also swear at adults. Respect ? What the hell is that ?

Obviously, you're more concerned with the "punishment" than you are with the manners and upbringing of your child. Since you don't know how to "rear" your child, and since your child hasn't been taught the difference between "right and wrong", who else than the school is in a better position to mete out proper punishment ?

I would think that you'd be happy that someone is trying to see to it that your child grows up to be a respectful citizen, since you can't do it. If you would have taught your child properly from the beginning, then your child would never have "flipped" the bird in the first place.


First of all my son does not swear,he has been taught not
to.He has been taught to respect other people and thier
property,he has been taught to be polite and say please and
thank you,he is disgusted by people littering.He is not friends with the kid next door because the kid goes on
other peoples property and gets into things,this also
disgusts him.
He thought he was trying to act cool in front of his friends on the bus by flipping them off.I don't approve,
when I found out I banned him from the computer,his favorite
pass time.He was very upset,but it will teach him a lesson.
I have no problem with the school punishing him if it won't affect his grades.Missing 2 days of school will not do
anything but lower his grades.I think the school overstepped
thier boundries and wouldn't be all that bothered by it if
it didn't affect his education.
I said I didn't approve and I talked to my son.Why would you reply based on things that you assumed,do you just like to rant?

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

My response:

Ya, ya. Sonny boy is just a wonderful little angel. That's why he flips people off.

With an "enabling parent" like you, I foresee State Prison in this kid's future.

Now, go away.

IAAL

 

[lebel1886]

I see the kind of poster you are.Your words mean nothing.
Go cash your welfare check and buy a bottle of mad dog,then
you'll be okay.

 

[Wiliiam L]

I am always liable needs to read the above statement before posting a reply. when replying to a message, please be considerate, respectful and polite. Remember, there is a human being on the other side of that computer screen. He/she is very RUDE.
My opinion is that the school should of sent you a letter or tried to phone you to let you know that your child had saturday school. Most kids for fear of getting into trouble with their parents do not like to bring those kinds of notes home from school. I don't think expelling kids for bad behavior does any kid any good. If they want out of school they know all they have to do is something against the rules. That will teach them won't it. Right. 2 days of in school in a room with nothing but school work seems to me to be a better punishment. Who wants to be isolated from there peers at school. Better yet home school, your child will learn a lot more than what the schools teach.

 

[lebel1886]

Thank you for your reply.Yes the thoughtless reply from
I am always liable was uncalled for.The school did send a letter,but my son gets home before I do,and I never saw
it.I agree that 2 days of work in school would be better
punishment.I don't mind if they punish him,but I don't want it to affect his education.Home school would be a good thing
but I am not able to provide that.

 

[racer72]

The school is responsible for your child till the bus pulls away after dropping them off. My son was suspended for 5 days from riding the bus for doing the same thing. He learned a hell of a lot of respect, his school was 7 miles away and he walked back and forth each day. My son embarrassed the hell out of me for that and he paid dearly. Sound like you son got what he deserved.

 

[FYRMAN262]

Technically, your son's School is in,"Loco Parentis" from the time your son leaves your Home to go to School until the time he arrives at School and the same applies from School to home. This, of course, does not apply if he veers off course to go to the Mall or some other activity.
All School employees have a ,"Duty to act" to any situation regarding the safety and wellbeing of a child. This includes proper manners and how to conduct yourself in public. My parents would have applauded the driver's actions, and Saturday School would be the least of my worries. Given the fact that your son failed to inform you about the incident as well as the punishment he recieved, you may want to focus your energy on him.
How would you feel if the reverse were to happen. For example; your son gets off the bus and is ,"flipped off" by another student. Wouldn't you want the Bus driver to do something, or would you want He or She to allow your son to be insulted.

 

[ericofnyc]

Hello...since this is a student rights forum...i would like to ask about student rights.
I live in New York City and I have a problem. I am currently involved in this acting class and the teacher said to form a group and make up a scene. I am a big fan of the Movie, the Matrix and my friend is an activist. Everyone would make a scene about lovers cheating on others but we decided to be creative. My friend wrote "I will blow this damn school up". The teacher read it and showed it to the vice principal. The cops then came to my house and said that they were concerned and they would want to speak with my parents and they did. We didn't know that something like this would ever happen. This scene was just a scene and will always be only a scene. Now there might be a possibility that i might get expelled from the school. Is there any way i can prevent this from happening? Are there any laws they are breaking if they do? There is always freedom of speech. Why is it okay for proffessional playwriters to write about these topics but not us students? Are adults always smarter than students? Something happened a couple years ago...the Columbine Incident. It was a tragedy. I understand that most of the people that commit the crimes are adults. 2 Students mess up once and everybody is scarred for life? I think that the only law that is broken is that the authorities of this school are prejudice. Just because we're students, they think we are stupid.

 

[FYRMAN262]

ericofnyc

This is in response to the student who might get expelled because of an acting assignment. I am not a lawyer, but I have some background in law enforcement(I was a police officer for a medium size city, and head of security for a small school district). Although the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States guarantees free speech, that doesn't mean a person can enter a crowded theater and yell,"FIRE". Along with the rights that we have as Americans, comes the responsibility of those rights. I can only give an opinion based on the facts that are presented. There may be some other circumstances that I am not aware of. Based on the facts given, the first question that comes to mind is; Why would your partner use blowing up the school as the basis of his play? Most high school students want to be treated like adults, but some can't handle adult decision making. I'm not trying to come down on you, I'm sure you are already getting your share of that. Whatever happens, stand tall and learn from this experience. Life goes on and so will you. Make your parents proud, and go to your destiny.