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prettyredhead
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What a bunch of clowns. I simply stated that perhaps they could grow up and have some compassion when another HUMAN being is feeling bad enough to talk about killing herself and her kids. Jesus. Apparently my summary of the state of our country is right on the money. Depsite your personal feelings and attacking me, you could have shown your human side. But, then again most "lawyers" make a living off defending the scum of the earth so what did I expect. She still should try to put her personal feelings aside and help this woman. What do you think if she follows thru on her threat? What good is a dead mother to the kids> They would hurt over that for the rest of their lives. But, hey as long as the "kids" are safe. It is people like you that make women so nutty as to harm herself and her kids. To hurt other people. I see it all the time. So, if she kills herself I hope it makes you life easier...hope you can live with it and explain it to her kids. And be honest as to why she did. But you wont, instead of helping others, just take what you want and to hell with anyone else.
I never claimed to be moral or perfect. But to attack my prev. posts, I expected it sooner or later. Yes, I am sexually selfish. Yes, he had kids, ages 24,21 and 20. Only one was his. So, call me what you will. I have never messed up a family. I really dont count kids over 18. So, all I wanted to say was that they both should try to be civil and help her instead of plotting to take her kids away.
So, if she kills herself then you can have your kids 24-7 and you can replace their mother. There, is that what you wanted to hear? Go for it. Sleep well.
I never claimed to be moral or perfect. But to attack my prev. posts, I expected it sooner or later. Yes, I am sexually selfish. Yes, he had kids, ages 24,21 and 20. Only one was his. So, call me what you will. I have never messed up a family. I really dont count kids over 18. So, all I wanted to say was that they both should try to be civil and help her instead of plotting to take her kids away.
So, if she kills herself then you can have your kids 24-7 and you can replace their mother. There, is that what you wanted to hear? Go for it. Sleep well.
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hexeliebe
Guest
Well kids, you knew I couldn't resist now didn't you
O.K. red, let's take a look at this.
Doing what is best for the kids you would have these two get back together, forget the past and move on until the children are grown.
Now my question. Based on the mother's past threats of not only suicide but also of killing her own children, how long do you think the children would have before they "are grown"?
One year? Two? or until the next argument.
Granted, the mother may be feeling things no one knows. But her pain stops at the children's bedroom. She has every right to feel whatever she wants to feel. But the moment she makes statements about taking the children with her, it moves from feelings to murder.
Now, tell me again how nice it would be for these children to be in a home with a person who would murder them and has so stated?
dequeendistress
Senior Member
Today is Monday, last I checked...Did the father get out of jail yet?
prettyredhead
Member
[O.K. red, let's take a look at this.
Doing what is best for the kids you would have these two get back together, forget the past and move on until the children are grown.
**Yes I think it is best to eat your feelings until the children are grown. You made this family, now follow thru. Simple.
Now my question. Based on the mother's past threats of not only suicide but also of killing her own children, how long do you think the children would have before they "are grown"?
One year? Two? or until the next argument.
**There is no proof that she would actually kill her children. Statements made in the heat of the moment. Not proof. If she has not harmed them yet, then you can chalk that up to pain and a statement (however stupid) made out of despair and pain. Come on now, you have NEVER said something you regret. Puleez.
Granted, the mother may be feeling things no one knows. But her pain stops at the children's bedroom. She has every right to feel whatever she wants to feel. But the moment she makes statements about taking the children with her, it moves from feelings to murder.
***Again, I really doubt that she meant that. If the father really cared about his kids, he would try to help their mother. You cannot just replace someones mother. He should try to set aside his wants and needs for a day and get her some help. Ask her, what can I do to make it better for you and the kids. Simple. A simple act of compassion could calm her down. Dont try to make a mountain out of a molehill. I have felt suicidal a few times in my life. It is not like everyone can cope with problems as well as others. She deserves some of his help. It is too bad his new woman cannot handle that or get all bent over his ongoing ties to the ex wife. I never would date someone with kids. It has too many issues and problems when the ex isthisclose and has all the power.
Now, tell me again how nice it would be for these children to be in a home with a person who would murder them and has so stated? [/B][/QUOTE]
*****Again, lawyer man prove that she has intent and malice towards the children. You need proof, other than a few sentences from a frustrated mother whose childrens father cares more where his penis is getting wet than the children he made. You act like it is a picnic being a mother. It is not that easy especially when you have little EMOTIONAL support.
Doing what is best for the kids you would have these two get back together, forget the past and move on until the children are grown.
**Yes I think it is best to eat your feelings until the children are grown. You made this family, now follow thru. Simple.
Now my question. Based on the mother's past threats of not only suicide but also of killing her own children, how long do you think the children would have before they "are grown"?
One year? Two? or until the next argument.
**There is no proof that she would actually kill her children. Statements made in the heat of the moment. Not proof. If she has not harmed them yet, then you can chalk that up to pain and a statement (however stupid) made out of despair and pain. Come on now, you have NEVER said something you regret. Puleez.
Granted, the mother may be feeling things no one knows. But her pain stops at the children's bedroom. She has every right to feel whatever she wants to feel. But the moment she makes statements about taking the children with her, it moves from feelings to murder.
***Again, I really doubt that she meant that. If the father really cared about his kids, he would try to help their mother. You cannot just replace someones mother. He should try to set aside his wants and needs for a day and get her some help. Ask her, what can I do to make it better for you and the kids. Simple. A simple act of compassion could calm her down. Dont try to make a mountain out of a molehill. I have felt suicidal a few times in my life. It is not like everyone can cope with problems as well as others. She deserves some of his help. It is too bad his new woman cannot handle that or get all bent over his ongoing ties to the ex wife. I never would date someone with kids. It has too many issues and problems when the ex isthisclose and has all the power.
Now, tell me again how nice it would be for these children to be in a home with a person who would murder them and has so stated? [/B][/QUOTE]
*****Again, lawyer man prove that she has intent and malice towards the children. You need proof, other than a few sentences from a frustrated mother whose childrens father cares more where his penis is getting wet than the children he made. You act like it is a picnic being a mother. It is not that easy especially when you have little EMOTIONAL support.
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hexeliebe
Guest
Hey, they're not my children. As far as I'm concerned you can put them under the wheels and drive away.
But then don't come back here in a few years crying because your babies are dead.
I won't give a rat's ass.
But then don't come back here in a few years crying because your babies are dead.
I won't give a rat's ass.
Whyte Noise
Senior Member
prettyredhead said:
On June 20, 2001, 36-year-old Andrea Yates, a Texas mother of five, methodically drowned all of her children and then phoned the police.
Yates, whose children ranged in age from 6 months to 7 years, had been suffering from post-partum depression since the birth of her 2-year-old, had been on medication, and Child Protection Services -- who investigated the family after Andrea Yates's suicide attempt two years ago -- claimed they had no reason to believe the children were not being properly cared for.
(See that? CPS supposedly had no reason to think she'd do this. Apparently, no one else thought so either. Even her husband, the children's father. The "proof" wasn't seen until there were 5 children dead, by their mother's hand.)
The beginning of the letter read, "You will, without a doubt, make some lucky man a great wife. But unfortunately, it won’t be me." Another passage began, "Susan, I could really fall for you. You have some endearing qualities about you, and I think that you are a terrific person. But like I have told you before, there are some things about you that aren’t suited for me, and yes, I am speaking about your children." The letter was dated October 17, 1994. A week later, Susan Smith quitely rolled her children, strapped into car seats, into a lake and drowned them.
County sheriff's officers arriving at Deanna Laney's home early Saturday found two of her sons, 8 and 6, dead and a 14-month-old son alive but bleeding in his crib with a pillow over his face.
"She was approximately 100 yards behind the house, still in her nightclothes, blood all over her," Sheriff J.B. Smith said on the CBS News Early Show before the gag order was imposed. "She had evidently beaten them to death with a rock — led them out of the house one at a time, and killed the children."
Meanwhile, First Assembly of God Pastor Gary Bell told his congregation Sunday about the deaths of his two nephews, injuries to the third and the arrest of his sister-in-law.
"No one would have expected such a tragedy to unfold, especially so close to home," Bell said during the service. "This family was the last one you would think this could happen in."
"She was just a stable individual in society, well-respected, well-loved, very gentle woman — no indication of anything like this," said Smith.
***** Yeah.... wait for "proof". You'll find it in a graveyard, in a small casket, 6 feet underground.
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FJ1200guy
Guest
Redhead says, "**There is no proof that she would actually kill her children. Statements made in the heat of the moment. Not proof. If she has not harmed them yet, then you can chalk that up to pain and a statement (however stupid) made out of despair and pain. Come on now, you have NEVER said something you regret. Puleez"
Now I KNOW Red is f**king with us... has anyone, no matter how upset they were, threatened their children? Not me, not my ex... and we were pretty damn pissed off at each other (hard to believe, right?) on occasion.
And MissouriGal really hammered that one home... wow, great post.
Very very good examples. Scary as hell, but good examples. I still remember those murders... brings tears to my eyes still... whew.
Now I KNOW Red is f**king with us... has anyone, no matter how upset they were, threatened their children? Not me, not my ex... and we were pretty damn pissed off at each other (hard to believe, right?) on occasion.
And MissouriGal really hammered that one home... wow, great post.
Very very good examples. Scary as hell, but good examples. I still remember those murders... brings tears to my eyes still... whew.
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jez51
Guest
Redhead
You obviously know nothing about mental illness or suicide.
When someone threatens suicide..always-always take it seriously. And tell me this, if someone threatened to kill your children, would you just blow it off, waiting for proof?
You are living in a very unrealistic world.....
You obviously know nothing about mental illness or suicide.
When someone threatens suicide..always-always take it seriously. And tell me this, if someone threatened to kill your children, would you just blow it off, waiting for proof?
You are living in a very unrealistic world.....
prettyredhead,
Do you have children? What would you do if you gave birth to two beautiful children and your ex threatened not only his own life, but your childrens? Would you wait to see what happens, or would you take it seriously and do something about it?
I have been mad at my ex before, but never and I mean NEVER have I or would I EVER threaten the safety and well being of my children's lives. In the event I did, I would hope and pray that my ex took the children from me for their own safety.
Even the thought of suicide is a cry for help. I would take it very seriously. Some people do it for attention, others do it to see if anyone cares and if not would end up going through the threat simply to prove no one tried to stop them. If this woman is even thinking of killing herself, let alone her own flesh and blood then it is rather apperent that the woman needs help. If she can't cope with life, then how can she cope with the responsibility to raise children? Even if she is threatening to do this just to get some sympathy from her ex...uh that just shows how truly unstable she is. This is about the children, period. They don't deserve to live in an unstable and unpredictable enviornment.
Oh, and P.S. if you don't like this country and what it stands for....MOVE!
Do you have children? What would you do if you gave birth to two beautiful children and your ex threatened not only his own life, but your childrens? Would you wait to see what happens, or would you take it seriously and do something about it?
I have been mad at my ex before, but never and I mean NEVER have I or would I EVER threaten the safety and well being of my children's lives. In the event I did, I would hope and pray that my ex took the children from me for their own safety.
Even the thought of suicide is a cry for help. I would take it very seriously. Some people do it for attention, others do it to see if anyone cares and if not would end up going through the threat simply to prove no one tried to stop them. If this woman is even thinking of killing herself, let alone her own flesh and blood then it is rather apperent that the woman needs help. If she can't cope with life, then how can she cope with the responsibility to raise children? Even if she is threatening to do this just to get some sympathy from her ex...uh that just shows how truly unstable she is. This is about the children, period. They don't deserve to live in an unstable and unpredictable enviornment.
Oh, and P.S. if you don't like this country and what it stands for....MOVE!