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abstract99

Senior Member
What is the name of your state? Arizona

Okay so I am still working on getting my children out here for the summer vacation. According to our court paperwork I have to request the time within 30 days of the start of the childrens summer vacation. I did this back in Jan. Now my question is, my ex has not yet responded to me stating that the dates that I have sent her are ok. Can she wait until the 30 day mark? If she waits until then (May 3rd) can she just come up and say that she wants changes made now when I have given her months to respond to me and she waited until the last minute?
 


newguyhere said:
What is the name of your state? Arizona

Okay so I am still working on getting my children out here for the summer vacation. According to our court paperwork I have to request the time within 30 days of the start of the childrens summer vacation. I did this back in Jan. Now my question is, my ex has not yet responded to me stating that the dates that I have sent her are ok. Can she wait until the 30 day mark? If she waits until then (May 3rd) can she just come up and say that she wants changes made now when I have given her months to respond to me and she waited until the last minute?


I know it a rough thing but if the court order gives her until the 3rd, then so be it.
 

djohnson

Senior Member
What does the court order state if she has a problem with those dates are? If it just says you give her that much notice, without requiring her approval, then it's done.
 

DRIVENCRZY

Junior Member
djohnson said:
What does the court order state if she has a problem with those dates are? If it just says you give her that much notice, without requiring her approval, then it's done.

Definately check your court order. We spent over 2 months going back and forth over dates last year. This year we reread the order to clarify another issue, and found out that it states "must notify the mother". It did not state that mother must approve. This year we sent our dates, with a copy of the order and didn't have any problems. Good luck!
 

abstract99

Senior Member
The order says that I must notify her but she has already turned down the first set of dates that I gave her so I had to change the flight information. I can't afford to spend money on plane tickets just for her to not send the kids. I was going to wait until the 3rd and then just go ahead and buy the tickets. I was just wondering if I had to wait for her or not even though it does not say that I do. I wasn't sure if there was a law that said so.
 

abstract99

Senior Member
djohnson said:
Does the court order give her first rights of refusal, or say she has to agree to the dates?

It mentions her right to refusal in reguards to the 2 weeks of vacation we both get with the children.
It says that if we both request the same vacation periods that her requested time will have precidence on odd numbered years and mine on even. The problem here is that I am not technically requesting vacation time... I am exercising my right to visitation. Also the part of the order that mentions visitation when I move out fo state only references that I can have MY 2 weeks of extra vacation time (as long as I work out the arangements for school work with their teachers ahead of time). It does not say that hse gets any vacation time.
 

abstract99

Senior Member
Okay this is new guys wife and I posted this on a different website but I tought I would post it here too. No need to go into how ther is no WE stuff because I am the one paying for the tickets so that is why I am asking. Here is the post:

Ok so for those of you that do not know me or my husband he has been having problems getting his children out here for their summer break. The court order states that he is to have the children on all summer breaks. We have been sending emails for months now and have not gotten a response in almost 2 months. What should we do? I would hate to spend over 500 dollars on plane tickets and the mom not send the children out. On the other hand we don't technically need her aproval for the visitation time. I worry that she is not responding on purpose just hoping that we won't buy the tickets without her saying yes and that if we do buy the tickets she won't send them and she will argue in court that the flight schedule we gave her would not work. ( She lives in Tucson and she would have to drive 2 hours to phoenix to put them on the plane because Southwest does not offer non-stop flights out of Tucson and the children can only be on non-stop flights) Do you guys think that I should just go ahead and buy the tickets and HOPE that she puts them on the plane? Or do you think that we should just file contempt charges saying that she is refusing to send them. In our last email we asked that she respond to us saying weather or not the dates were ok with her and she has not yet responded. I am so torn on what to do. It feels like she is just playing one big mind game with us. I can't really afford to spend the extra 2 or 3 hundred dollars that it would cost to get refundable tickets. Any advice would be great. It might be important to know that if we do just buy the tickets and she does not send them another opportunity to see the children might not come along until at least next summer break and he has not seen the kids since last July as it is.
 

abstract99

Senior Member
Nevermind I called Southwest and got the tickets. If she doesn't send them, I will get my money back and won't have to pay money for the contempt because the PD will investigate it and file for me
 

djohnson

Senior Member
As a side note for future reference, I would send a letter CRRR instead of email. That way you have proof you sent it and she got it. If you go to court her defense will be that she thought ya'll didn't want the kids as she never heard anything.
 

abstract99

Senior Member
djohnson said:
As a side note for future reference, I would send a letter CRRR instead of email. That way you have proof you sent it and she got it. If you go to court her defense will be that she thought ya'll didn't want the kids as she never heard anything.

Oh I send her the info too via certified mail. Her lawyer is the one that I have been emailing. She has told me that I am no longer to contact her and that all questions are to be sent to her lawyer. I kinda got sneeky though and am hoping that she lies that she never got them. I sent the letters next day air which means that I can track the info through UPS but I don't get a signiture card back. I am hoping that she doesn't think that I still have a way to track that she got the letters.
 

Ambr

Senior Member
You might try a modification to the wording if an agreement can not be reach between the parents on when the dates are to begin, that day-month-year to day-month-year will be the period of visitation.

And heck....just ask for the moon.....and make so she is responsible for refunding you for any expenses due to cancellation or re-scheduling of flights.
 

abstract99

Senior Member
The problem was more along the lines of the fact that the children go to a year round school but I don't yet know when they start back up. I wound up just buying the tickets based on their schedule from the current school year. I am supposed to return the children back to her witin 7 days of the start of school but the way that I look at it is that I have given her plenty of time to get me those dates and she has not done it. I can't get the info because since I did not register the children and I do not live in district the school will only give it to her. Sounds stupid to me.
 

nextwife

Senior Member
newguyhere said:
The problem was more along the lines of the fact that the children go to a year round school but I don't yet know when they start back up. I wound up just buying the tickets based on their schedule from the current school year. I am supposed to return the children back to her witin 7 days of the start of school but the way that I look at it is that I have given her plenty of time to get me those dates and she has not done it. I can't get the info because since I did not register the children and I do not live in district the school will only give it to her. Sounds stupid to me.

MOst districts have websites. Their calenders are often posted right on the websight.

Parents can also subscribe to paperless email notices of events, etc. in many districts. Ours has the option of a Paperless "Monday Folder" by email.
 

abstract99

Senior Member
nextwife said:
MOst districts have websites. Their calenders are often posted right on the websight.

Parents can also subscribe to paperless email notices of events, etc. in many districts. Ours has the option of a Paperless "Monday Folder" by email.

Yeah they havent posted it yet but I know that she has the new schedule because with the year round school, they are already enrolling for when school starts back up in July. When she enrolled the children she would have gotten the schedule and I know that she already enrolled them because she lost their Birth Certificates so I had to send her a copy.
 

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