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Tell me...am I the crazy one or is it him?

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LdiJ

Senior Member
stealth2 said:
I read it the first time. My point was that there was no need to even get into that sort of negotiation. She didn't need his permission to have the elder child transport the younger. So why even bother?

(edit) And I wasn't even addressing the TDay thing. My point is that she is just as responsible for ramping up the tension as he is.

True, she could just send him. However based on the way that dad is reacting I am not sure that's in the best interest of the 20 year old. It could put him in a very awkward position once he arrives there.

Although I see your point about "ramping" up the tension. Mom HAS recently had a stroke and that is going to have some effect on her ability to deal with the situation. She probably isn't at her "best" right now.
 


Kevmar44

Member
I can't believe she is getting so much crap about this! Her ex is an ROYAL A-HOLE and you all are damning her if she does and damning her if she doesn't. She has been trying to take the high road, FOR HER CHILDRENS SAKE, for years and HE spits in her face for it! According to some she's gone too far. And when she stands up for herself and her kids, she STILL out of line! Jeez-Louise!

I'm sorry, but once a parent turns into a jack-ass I feel that is the way they should be treated in return! It is a decision TIHEY make at that point. In this case, it is half HIS responsibility to keep the relationship with his children going. The fact that he chooses not to see his children because HE refuses to come get them, or what ever lame excuse he comes up with, means HE loses out. It does not mean SHE is responsible for it! UNLESS there was paperwork filed when she moved that said she had to provide transportation, then she doesn't have to do it! She offered that jerk a half way split and he refused it. Oh well, he made his bed, now he gets to lie in it!

I don't understand why it is the CP's responsibility to force a relationship between a child and a JERK of a parent. Everybody seems to think just because that person helped make that child that they should have a part in their lives, but when that jerk of a parent chooses not to be a good parent then the kids are better off without them! And yet we all sit back and wonder why our kids are so screwed up! Good God! My ex is a jerk but my husband shows my son what a REAL father does for his children. It is healthier for my son to have no contact with his jerk of a dad at this point then is it to force him to go visit a someone who has decided to put his ONLY child on the back burner because he met and married some wacko insecure woman who doesn't really want my son around in the first place.

When we force our children to go we are not teaching them a lesson that is beneficial to them. We put the kids in the middle of a situation they did not chose to be in and then turn around and crap on them some more by forcing them to have a "relationship" with someone who obviously doesn't really want to have that! It's all comes down to control. In this situation especially this so called "dad" only wants to rule his sons life (like he wants to rule his ex-wife). Don't want to come see me because I've been a jerk for most of your life? Oh well, adjust your attitude and get over it because I'm the guy that helped make you therefore I get the decision to make your life a living hell if I want! What in the world does that teach our children? If and when our children wish to have a relationship with the jerk parent they can do it on their time and their terms. Not because the laws in the country are so f'ed up right now that they are forced to.

I too have ex in-laws that would stand behind me 100% because of the poor behavior my ex has exhibited these past 3 years and it's about time the judges and the courts took note of that! When EVERYBODY else can see the big picture except the jerk parent the courts need to stand behind the GOOD parent!
 

BethM

Member
One way or another, he apparently agreed to do so if the child was brought to him. Why argue over how? You can't do it but your older son can? Just have him do it!

Uh, I can't just have my older son take the youngest one without first communicating on when and where he is to meet his father. There was no arguing over it. He was told the oldest would bring the youngest and he refused that offer. NOTHING in that offer was brought on by me. I'm not sure how you think me telling my ex that the oldest would bring the other one was wrong of me. I have a feeling that no matter what I had posted you would have found some small thing to latch onto and criticize.

As for the new clothes, you are right, my son should not have to call r write his father. His father should be checking with him periodically to make sure he has what he wants and needs. History has proven though, that if I write or call I will get no response. He has, on occasion responded to the children. The boy is 13, he wasn't put in the middle by anyone but his father. If his father and I were still married it would be the most natural thing in the world for the child to request something from his father. Divorce should not take away a child's right to do such things....to be a normal child and have a normal parent.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
You've missed my point. Which was that it's a waste of time and money to be negotiating these points through the lawyer. "When and where do we meet for you to get child X?" And then have the elder son do the transport for you. Instead, it was ramped up into a huge deal of negotiations.

And I'm sorry, but you did put your son in the position of asking Dad for money (in the form of a gift certificates). If he'd done it on his own, it would be a completely different situation.

Look, I know all about dealing with an a$$hole of an ex. And it simply isn't worth the energy you're expending on arguing/negotiating with him. You don't need the aggravation, right? So simply stop. Trust me - you'll be much happier.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
BelizeBreeze said:
HEY!!!! I resemble that remark :D

Yeah, but you're not my ex. ;)

Speaking of whom, I have a few questions I'd like to bounce off you (somewhat privately - don't get ideas) at some point, if you wouldn't mind.
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
stealth2 said:
Yeah, but you're not my ex. ;)

Speaking of whom, I have a few questions I'd like to bounce off you (somewhat privately - don't get ideas) at some point, if you wouldn't mind.
Ask IAAL or Ellen for my email. Point them here so they'll know I said it's o.k.

Or you can ask mary. I'll tell her it's o.k.
 

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