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Terminated for Inappropriate Conduct with Subordinate but another employee was not

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Never just quit. Because if you just quit, it is considered a voluntary termination on your part. Thus you are highly unlikely to be approved for unemployment insurance. Besides, that you quit doesn't make it a bit more likely they'll pay your vacation time. And if they terminate you, the employer has to show, in order to keep you from being approved for unemployment benefits, that you were fired for a genuine good misconduct reason.

Frankly, I don't see your chances of being approved for U.I. as being very good. Anyway, file, and they'll thrash it out in the unemployment system whether or not your behavior, having a relationship with a subordinate, was enough to give them a good misconduct reason to terminate you. It doesn't much matter what they did with another case and someone else a while back. Regardless of what you were told by the person involved, you don't have any personal knowledge of specifically what they did to the other people who were dating or sexually harrassing co-workers, and the situation was not the same, as someone pointed out, because this other person was not a supervisor and you were. The idea of prohibiting supervisors from having a relationship with someone they supervise is pretty basic to the work world. You knew it was a bad idea.

They were in no way required by law in an "at will" state to give you any sort of corrective counseling or warnings before firing you. If they didn't, on a smaller misconduct, it might help your chances of being approved for unemployment, but this one is pretty big, not something they're going to say was whimsical on their part to fire you.

If this is in their policy manual, and you have knowledge of the policy manual, signed off on it, were trained in it, and were aware of the policy, and you have not seen other people in your position allowed to get away with this behavior freely all around you, not to mention that you tried to cover up and lie about the behavior when you were discovered, it looks pretty much like you knew this behavior was wrong, that it could reasonably result in your losing your job, but you chose to go through with it anyway.

The argument that they discriminated against you as a young person, doesn't fly, as you've been told. Likewise the "she/he pursued ME, it' wasn't my fault!" argument isn't a good one to try. But go on and hang on until they actually suspend you or teminate you, and then file for unemployment benefits. Who knows, they may just huff and puff about it for a few weeks and not terminate you. Be very careful, and be looking for another job, anyhow. I doubt if you'll be well thought of in the future here even if they do keep you.
 
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OHRoadwarrior

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So your qualification to remain supervisor is your blatant disregard for company rules and your willingness to lie in an effort to coverup your transgression. :eek: Nah, they gotta be getting rid of you because of your race. You have every qualification I am sure they look for in a supervisor.
 

Skyymiles

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So your qualification to remain supervisor is your blatant disregard for company rules and your willingness to lie in an effort to coverup your transgression. :eek: Nah, they gotta be getting rid of you because of your race. You have every qualification I am sure they look for in a supervisor.

I never said I had to remain a supervisor, naturally I'm 25 and ahead of my generation for what I've accomplished in only 7 years compared to others in my field. I just said this is not the way I would like to go down. I'd prefer them to offer me the opportunity to take the necessary steps to correct myself and accept responsibility for my actions whether it be through a demotion, pay cut, or whatever... weighing my proven track record that got me to the level I am. Maybe they can't offer me this, maybe I have to loose my job to protect the interest of the company - I'm not a legal expert, that's why I'm here sharing my story. I'm willing to listen to advice from people who I know are going to be up front and blunt about the law; thanks for reassuring me that I can find plenty of that here.
 

OHRoadwarrior

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Though you can pat yourself on the back for all your previous accomplishments, you did the one thing to tank your career, you became a liability. To err is human, to forgive is not company policy. Your work history is exactly what it presents itself as, a good supervisor who made great choices until he screwed up, then, when caught, he lied like a third grader. You are the sum of your experience. Unfortunately the end of your career is what you will likely be remembered for. I suggest you look to utilize your experience in a close area, where your reference won't be investigated so closely.
 

Proserpina

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Though you can pat yourself on the back for all your previous accomplishments, you did the one thing to tank your career, you became a liability. To err is human, to forgive is not company policy. Your work history is exactly what it presents itself as, a good supervisor who made great choices until he screwed up, then, when caught, he lied like a third grader. You are the sum of your experience. Unfortunately the end of your career is what you will likely be remembered for. I suggest you look to utilize your experience in a close area, where your reference won't be investigated so closely.


I absolutely loved that!
 

Skyymiles

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Though you can pat yourself on the back for all your previous accomplishments, you did the one thing to tank your career, you became a liability. To err is human, to forgive is not company policy. Your work history is exactly what it presents itself as, a good supervisor who made great choices until he screwed up, then, when caught, he lied like a third grader. You are the sum of your experience. Unfortunately the end of your career is what you will likely be remembered for. I suggest you look to utilize your experience in a close area, where your reference won't be investigated so closely.

True, well I appreciate your assessment. That's good advice for anyone.
 
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