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Towed from a handicap spot with a handicap placard

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racer72

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The sad part out of all this is Mr. TT Suck will get to put his ignorance on public display if he chooses to fight this losing cause in court. The fact is predatory towing is legal in California and he hasn't provided one shred of evidence to back up his claims. Looking like an idiot on an internet forum while hiding behind a username is one thing, looking like an idiot in a public forum that is a courtroom and having to use his real name is another. It's people like this that makes the courtrooms of America some of the best free entertainment anywhere.
 


tow trucks suck

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And its know it alls like you who make this forum worthless.

:confused: Did I say I was taking this to court? Never. Was I wrong to park in a handicap spot with a placard on private property? I now know the answer to be yes. Does this mean I have to bend over and take it while they damage my car and act as the judge, jury, and executioner? Even if you are towed you still have rights and not one of you people are acknowledging my rights. Yes it was legal for them to tow me, but there must be some sort of reforms on how much they can charge. Tell me this. What kind of business will not give you a copy of something you sign? An honest one? I don't think so. I'm dealing with scum buckets here that have no morals or standards. And the only comments I get from people on here are similar to " You broke the law, they can do whatever they want to you." I'm sorry folks, this answer isn't good enough for me.

Does this mean I am at their mercy and am forced to pay whatever it takes to get my car back. No. Do some research. Tow companies can charge you only as much as the city tow yard charges. You can't tell me they can ..my car up and not have to reimburse me, and I'm the one who is in the wrong here.
 
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BelizeBreeze

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tow trucks suck said:
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Does this mean I am at their mercy and am forced to pay whatever it takes to get my car back. No. Do some research. Tow companies can charge you only as much as the city tow yard charges. You can't tell me they can f-ck my car up and not have to reimburse me, and I'm the one who is in the wrong here.
So, it's not alright for them to charge you what you consider an unfair price but it's perfectly alright for you to accuse them of a crime without any semblence of proof?

Wonderful logic. :rolleyes:
Want some cheese with that WHINE?
 

tow trucks suck

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This is my post, what your excuse?

For responding no less than 20 seconds after I submit a post.Seriously man, do you honestly have nothing better to do? Get a life. Go outside and take a walk. Live a little and get off the computer. It will do nothing but mess up your eyes.


By the way I have no proof they messed up my car as of right now but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if they towed the car and then the next time it's turned on the engine light comes on that it is highly likely the tow caused something. Since your not a rocket scientist let me break it down for you a little easier.

Before the car is towed= check engine light not on
Immediately after the tow= check engine light comes on.

As you can see it doesn't take too much common sense to figure out. Although I won't know for sure until after I take the car to a mechanic and figure out for sure what's wrong with it, and if it is a result of improper towing, I will be forced to take this issue to the courts since I highly doubt this place will reimburse me, even knowing that something is their fault.
 

BelizeBreeze

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tow trucks suck said:
For responding no less than 20 seconds after I submit a post.Seriously man, do you honestly have nothing better to do? Get a life. Go outside and take a walk. Live a little and get off the computer. It will do nothing but mess up your eyes.


By the way I have no proof they messed up my car as of right now but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if they towed the car and then the next time it's turned on the engine light comes on that it is highly likely the tow caused something. Since your not a rocket scientist let me break it down for you a little easier.

Before the car is towed= check engine light not on
Immediately after the tow= check engine light comes on.

As you can see it doesn't take too much common sense to figure out. Although I won't know for sure until after I take the car to a mechanic and figure out for sure what's wrong with it, and if it is a result of improper towing, I will be forced to take this issue to the courts since I highly doubt this place will reimburse me, even knowing that something is their fault.

Five seconds before towing : the oil light doesn't come on.

Five seconds after towing: oil light comes on.

PROVING: the oil light came on.

did you happen to think about checking the oil in this klunker? :rolleyes:
 

tow trucks suck

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BelizeBreeze said:
...but it's perfectly alright for you to accuse them of a crime without any semblence of proof?

Spoken like a true lawyer. In the abscence of evidence (at this time), the tow truck company must be innocent. Next your going to call them honest and a pillar of society. Quit while your ahead and just give it up. For someone who claims to be as knowledgable and successful as you claim to be you sure act pretty childish.
 

BelizeBreeze

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tow trucks suck said:
Spoken like a true lawyer. In the abscence of evidence (at this time), the tow truck company must be innocent. Next your going to call them honest and a pillar of society. Quit while your ahead and just give it up. For someone who claims to be as knowledgable and successful as you claim to be you sure act pretty childish.
Notice how, when someone shows you how STUPID your argument is, you retort like a child?

No wonder no one else is bothering to respond. Most people here have their OWN children. They don't need another one.

Now, where is your PROOF that they did anything to your car?

Or, have you had a mechanic check the oil flow valve? Did you happen to check the CVG valve for clogging? Did you HAPPEN TO CHECK THE OIL?

No, because someone ELSE must be responsible. After all, YOU CAN"T be RIGHT?
 

Happy Trails

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tow trucks suck said:
:confused: Did I say I was taking this to court? Never. Was I wrong to park in a handicap spot with a placard on private property? I now know the answer to be yes. Does this mean I have to bend over and take it while they damage my car and act as the judge, jury, and executioner? Even if you are towed you still have rights and not one of you people are acknowledging my rights. Yes it was legal for them to tow me, but there must be some sort of reforms on how much they can charge. Tell me this. What kind of business will not give you a copy of something you sign? An honest one? I don't think so. I'm dealing with scum buckets here that have no morals or standards. And the only comments I get from people on here are similar to " You broke the law, they can do whatever they want to you." I'm sorry folks, this answer isn't good enough for me.

Does this mean I am at their mercy and am forced to pay whatever it takes to get my car back. No. Do some research. Tow companies can charge you only as much as the city tow yard charges. You can't tell me they can f-ck my car up and not have to reimburse me, and I'm the one who is in the wrong here.

You could have looked all this up without me posting it here.

CALIFORNIA CODES
VEHICLE CODE


22658. (a) Except as provided in Section 22658.2, the owner or
person in lawful possession of any private property, within one hour
of notifying, by telephone or, if impractical, by the most
expeditious means available, the local traffic law enforcement
agency, may cause the removal of a vehicle parked on the property to
the nearest public garage under any of the following circumstances:
(1) There is displayed, in plain view at all entrances to the
property, a sign not less than 17 by 22 inches in size, with
lettering not less than one inch in height, prohibiting public
parking and indicating that vehicles will be removed at the owner's
expense, and containing the telephone number of the local traffic law
enforcement agency. The sign may also indicate that a citation may
also be issued for the violation.

(d) The owner of a vehicle removed from private property pursuant
to subdivision (a) may recover for any damage to the vehicle
resulting from any intentional or negligent act of any person causing
the removal of, or removing, the vehicle.

i) (1) A charge for towing or storage, or both, of a vehicle
under this section is excessive if the charge is greater than that
which would have been charged for towing or storage, or both, made at
the request of a law enforcement agency under an agreement between
the law enforcement agency and a towing company in the city or county
in which is located the private property from which the vehicle was,
or was attempted to be, removed.

(2) If a vehicle is released within 24 hours from the time the
vehicle is brought into the storage facility, regardless of the
calendar date, the storage charge shall be for only one day. Not
more than one day's storage charge may be required for any vehicle
released the same day that it is stored.

j) Any person who charges a vehicle owner a towing, service, or
storage charge at an excessive rate, as described in subdivision (i),
is liable to the vehicle owner for four times the amount charged.

(continued)
 

Happy Trails

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(l) (1) A towing company shall not remove or commence the removal of a vehicle from private property without first obtaining written authorization from the property owner or lessee, or an employee or agent thereof, who shall be present at the time of removal. General authorization to remove or commence removal of a vehicle at the towing company's discretion shall not be delegated to a towing company or its affiliates except in the case of a vehicle unlawfully parked within 15 feet of a fire hydrant or in a fire lane, or in a manner which interferes with any entrance to, or exit from, the private property. (2) If a towing company removes a vehicle without written authorization and that vehicle is unlawfully parked within 15 feet of a fire hydrant or in a fire lane, or in a manner which interferes with any entrance to, or exit from, the private property, the towing company shall take, prior to the removal of that vehicle, a photograph of the vehicle which clearly indicates that parking violation. The towing company shall keep one copy of the photograph taken pursuant to this paragraph, and shall present that photograph to the owner or an agent of the owner, when that person claims the vehicle. (3) Any towing company, or any affiliate of a towing company, which removes, or commences removal of, a vehicle from private property without first obtaining written authorization from the property owner or lessee, or an employee or agent thereof, who is present at the time of removal or commencement of the removal, except as permitted by paragraph (1), is liable to the owner of the vehicle for four times the amount of the towing and storage charges, in addition to any applicable criminal penalty, for a violation of paragraph (1).

(2) It is the intent of the Legislature in the adoption of subdivision (l) to further the safety of the general public by ensuring that a private property owner or lessee has provided his or her authorization for the removal of a vehicle from his or her property, thereby promoting the safety of those persons involved in ordering the removal of the vehicle as well as those persons removing, towing, and storing the vehicle.

If you want even more of an extensive read then go to:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html

Check the box for vehicle code then type in the search box "towing". Click on VEHICLE CODE SECTION 22650-22711 then scroll down to 22658.
 
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