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Cowboy429scj

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What is the name of your state? IM in utah, anyways, i am not a father, but my fiance has a six year old daughter, and her father is UNFIT for being a father, he smokes pot right in front of her in the truck, (of course i called child protection but they couldnt PROVE anything) he took her down to some hot springs about 2 weeks ago and broke down 200 miles away the day before she had to go to school (i realize that any car can break down, but my grandmother who doesnt know what a spark plug is could tell that this vehicle was unreliable to go to the grocery store) among other things im not going into, but tonight was my breaking point, im 100 miles away from home trying to find new employment, and i was on the computer, and my stepdaughter instant messaged me saying that she was home alone and didnt know where anyone was, (keep in mind shes only six and cant type out an explanation) and i was shocked, i know my fiance would NEVER do such a thing, so i called her cell phone, and to find out, her father had taken her tonight, supposedly until tomorrow morning, and had brought her home without finding out if anyone was home ( i would figure anyone with half a brain would realize that if both cars were gone that you would have an inkling that nobody was home) and just left her there........this man is unfit for any kind of parental duties, and of course my fiance is scared to "take her daddy away" and i think that is a short term solution, in the long run this man will do no good, does anyone have any suggestions? because like i say, ive called CPS a couple times about the smoking drugs RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER, but they couldnt prove anything, (apparently EVERYONE smokes TOBACCO out of a purple pipe) i would like to see SUPERVISED VISITS (as i dont fully want to take her father away from her either, but this ridiculous bull**** has to stop) but it seems like he just makes it through all the cracks.........any input would be appreciated
 
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Phnx02

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Cowboy429scj said:
What is the name of your state? IM in utah, anyways, i am not a father, but my fiance has a six year old daughter, and her father is UNFIT for being a father, he smokes pot right in front of her in the truck, (of course i called child protection but they couldnt PROVE anything) he took her down to some hot springs about 2 weeks ago and broke down 200 miles away the day before she had to go to school (i realize that any car can break down, but my grandmother who doesnt know what a spark plug is could tell that this vehicle was unreliable to go to the grocery store) among other things im not going into, but tonight was my breaking point, im 100 miles away from home trying to find new employment, and i was on the computer, and my stepdaughter instant messaged me saying that she was home alone and didnt know where anyone was, (keep in mind shes only six and cant type out an explanation) and i was shocked, i know my fiance would NEVER do such a thing, so i called her cell phone, and to find out, her father had taken her tonight, supposedly until tomorrow morning, and had brought her home without finding out if anyone was home ( i would figure anyone with half a brain would realize that if both cars were gone that you would have an inkling that nobody was home) and just left her there........this man is unfit for any kind of parental duties, and of course my fiance is scared to "take her daddy away" and i think that is a short term solution, in the long run this man will do no good, does anyone have any suggestions? because like i say, ive called CPS a couple times about the smoking drugs RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER, but they couldnt prove anything, (apparently EVERYONE smokes TOBACCO out of a purple pipe) i would like to see SUPERVISED VISITS (as i dont fully want to take her father away from her either, but this ridiculous bull**** has to stop) but it seems like he just makes it through all the cracks.........any input would be appreciated

Confused: Is the father of this child your fiance?
 

stealth2

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Well, here's the deal. What YOU would like to see happen is pretty much moot. You're not the child's parent.
 
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Cowboy429scj

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okay, sorry, my fiance is the childs MOTHER, and youre half right about what *I* want to happen, but if i turn up the right cards, the law will make what i want happen, for instance: if he was molesting her, and i called the cops and wanted him to never see her again, im pretty sure i would get what *I* wanted? dont you think? or do you figure the judge would say"oh, you were molesting your daughter? oh, but the STEP FATHER reported it, we dont care about his opinion, youre free to see her anytime you want and still have joint custody"? this isnt the kind of input i was looking for, maybe you should think for a split second, my opinion may not matter to anyone because i am the stepfather, i understand that........but i can still make the system work to my liking
 
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stealth2

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Cowboy429scj said:
okay, sorry, my fiance is the childs MOTHER, and youre half right about what *I* want to happen, but if i turn up the right cards, the law will make what i want happen, for instance: if he was molesting her, and i called the cops and wanted him to never see her again, im pretty sure i would get what *I* wanted? dont you think? or do you figure the judge would say"oh, you were molesting your daughter? oh, but the STEP FATHER reported it, we dont care about his opinion, youre free to see her anytime you want and still have joint custody"? this isnt the kind of input i was looking for, maybe you should think for a split second, my opinion may not matter to anyone because i am the stepfather, i understand that........but i can still make the system work to my liking

Come back when you're prepared to be rational.
 
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VeronicaGia

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What you don't understand is that you have no PROOF. That is why nothing happened. You come off here like someone wanting so badly to get rid of the child's real father it's not funny. You also sound ready to make something up to get rid of this childs father.

Maybe you'll have a child with this woman, and when she moves on to the next guy and he goes out of his way to get YOU out of YOUR child's life, you'll get it. Until then, you sound jealous and possesive of a child that is not yours.

If your wife wants to do something about this, it's up to her. But you are interfering were you don't belong.
 

stealth2

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Cowboy429scj said:
okay, sorry, my fiance is the childs MOTHER, and youre half right about what *I* want to happen, but if i turn up the right cards, the law will make what i want happen, for instance: if he was molesting her, and i called the cops and wanted him to never see her again, im pretty sure i would get what *I* wanted? dont you think? or do you figure the judge would say"oh, you were molesting your daughter? oh, but the STEP FATHER reported it, we dont care about his opinion, youre free to see her anytime you want and still have joint custody"? this isnt the kind of input i was looking for, maybe you should think for a split second, my opinion may not matter to anyone because i am the stepfather, i understand that........but i can still make the system work to my liking

Dude.... the problem is that, without compelling PROOF of anything, CPS and a judge will see this as exactly what it is - an adversarial custodial situation with allegations being made to interfere with a parent's access to the child. Courts see it all the time.
 
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Cowboy429scj

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this is why i said stop posting, "i am willing to make something up?" how did i imply that? and , i believe that a court would agree with me that smoking pot right in front of a 6 year old is wrong and illegal, and i already POSTED that there was no proof
 
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abstract99

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Cowboy429scj said:
this is why i said stop posting, "i am willing to make something up?" how did i imply that? and , i believe that a court would agree with me that smoking pot right in front of a 6 year old is wrong and illegal, and i already POSTED that there was no proof QUOTE]


Well without having proof of dad smoking pot it all heresay. You can go in there and say he's a member of the KKK but without the proof you will not only look desperate but like a liar and an idiot. Not tyring to be harsh just telling it to you straight.
 
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abstract99

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this is why i said stop posting, "i am willing to make something up?" how did i imply that? What does this mean?
 
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Cowboy429scj

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newguyhere said:
Well without having proof of dad smoking pot it all heresay. You can go in there and say he's a member of the KKK but without the proof you will not only look desperate but like a liar and an idiot. Not tyring to be harsh just telling it to you straight.

okay, i REALIZE that the courts will look at it like im just trying to be an but *I* KNOW that he's smoking pot, he was married to my fiance for 2 years, and she NEVER knew him to smoke cigarettes, but she ALWAYS knew him to smoke pot, and as i mentioned before, WHO smokes tobacco out of a purple metal pipe? (by the way, thats my step-daughters words and observations, not mine) all i want is input on HOW to go about GETTING PROOF!
 
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stealth2

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Cowboy429scj said:
he was married to my fiance for 2 years, and she NEVER knew him to smoke cigarettes, but she ALWAYS knew him to smoke pot

So...... the next question the judge will ask would be why it was okay with her then, but not now. You're not going to get anywhere with this, cowboydud. Your wife thought a pothead was okay as a daddy before you came along.
 

abstract99

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Cowboy429scj said:
and as i mentioned before, WHO smokes tobacco out of a purple metal pipe? (by the way, thats my step-daughters words and observations, not mine)

Old people do.

you never asked this in your original post so don't get mad when nobody answers it. The ONLY way to get proof is a drug test ordered by the courts. Which can be easily fluffed by him. Meaning that he can easily pass.

stealth2 said:
So...... the next question the judge will ask would be why it was okay with her then, but not now. You're not going to get anywhere with this, cowboydud. Your wife thought a pothead was okay as a daddy before you came along.


Another excellent point. Mommie can't just go and become all just now that she has a new family and doesn't want daddie to see the kid anymore. I am sure he will bring this up in court. Oh and by the way... I don't doubt for a second that mommie was planning on having the child support raised the second the custody changed. Why else bring up sich a trivial issue. I would probably get high (if i had the money) every day if the child that I loved was taken from me.
 
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BelizeBreeze

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You asked for any input and received it. You have been told that you have no legal standing to do anything and that you have no proof. You have also been told that it's none of your business.

You retort with foul language.

you can either leave on your own or not. That is up to you.

And newguy, I STRONGLY SUGGEST you edit your post NOW!
 
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