VA 79/40, but I'm only 17!

[harbor14]

BelizeBreeze writes:

Just an aside. Once you get done with community service volunteer to help clean floors or other instruments at the Morgue or county hospital. I guarantee you that will keep your act together for the rest of your life. Especially when you see a child laying dead on the slab after someone plowed into them going 100 and drunk.

Yeah, just what we need is more scared drivers out there. Scared drivers are unsure drivers and unsure drivers are unsafe drivers. Your Signal 32 tactics were trite 50 years ago. I would far rather have competent and attentive drivers than scared drivers around me.

I DID work in the ER at a major trauma hospital as an orderly for a short while when I was in college. While my skepticism was already well established, seeing the results of crashes reinforced my resolve to improve traffic flow and traffic safety performance. The way to do that was, of course, a scientific, measured, logical approach.

When one takes the statistics provided by a biased source – cops – and runs it through a biased agency – NHTSA – the results still do not indicate that speed too fast for conditions accounts for any more than about 8% of fatal crashes. Then you want to go and compound the exaggeration by combining speeding with drunkenness. Why don’t you throw in some red lights and a busload of nuns for good measure? Shame on you.

Xcait, take some real advice: find yourself a good high-performance driving school (mine was Bondurant) and learn their techniques and, most importantly, their attitudes and approaches to driving. CONTROL! CONTROL! CONTROL! and ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION! are their mantra. You’ll learn how to make good and safe decisions that serve you in all areas of your life.

Unfortunatley the majority of people do not drive in a logical, scientific or measured approach. I've read most of your postings and will readily agree if you can figure out how to socially engineer drivers so they do drive in a logical, scientific or measured approach - stop talking on cell phones, putting on makeup, road rage, eating/drinking/reading or everything else they do, I'll sign on. Until that happens statistics can be twisted to support anyones position - its why I generally dont believe any of them.

 

[James Young]

harbor14 writes:

Unfortunatley the majority of people do not drive in a logical, scientific or measured approach. I've read most of your postings and will readily agree if you can figure out how to socially engineer drivers so they do drive in a logical, scientific or measured approach - stop talking on cell phones, putting on makeup, road rage, eating/drinking/reading or everything else they do, I'll sign on.

The behavior you list can be problematic. However, even with all that, even with elevated speeds, even with congestion, even with more cars and more drivers than ever, and even with enforcement focused on the wrong thing, we have the best safety performance rates in history.

PS: I was speaking about my approach to the problem rather than a particular approach to driving but it still applies just as well.

Until that happens statistics can be twisted to support anyones position - its why I generally dont believe any of them.

Statistics are a powerful tool and, like any powerful tool, must be used with care. If you choose to step around the fallen tree in your driveway rather than use a chainsaw to remove it, that’s up to you. So, too, it is with statistics. They can help one grasp and understand the concepts driving traffic flow and safety performance. They – like a chainsaw – can be misused.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

James, do us all a favor and keep your agenda on your own thread. Do you realize how stupid you look? Is this forum in some way your "Binky"? Didn't your mother ever teach you that it is ok to have your opinion, but how, when and where you express it should be carefully thought out?

Take it to your congressman, not here, it is not appropriate.

 

[James Young]

PARIDISE writes:

James, do us all a favor and keep your agenda on your own thread.

Why? And let the resident bullies have all the fun? No way. They've been picking on unsuspecting and trusting posters in a repugnant way. I'm neither unsuspecting nor trusting and I know a hell of a lot more about the topic than they do.


Do you realize how stupid you look?

Not nearly as stupid as the “advice” offered by those resident bullies.

Is this forum in some way your "Binky"?

No. My only purpose here is to counter the crap offered by those dishonest bullies.

Didn't your mother ever teach you that it is ok to have your opinion, but how, when and where you express it should be carefully thought out?

Well, since the purpose of the forum is to provide advice and discourse about a particular issue – in this case, traffic law and traffic safety – my mother would be proud of my preparation and my performance.

Take it to your congressman, not here, it is not appropriate.

Wait a minute. You’ve got a bunch of arrogant Cro-Magnons offering “advice.” Only the advice they offer is worse than worthless because it consists primarily of smart-ass commentary making fun of anybody who asks a question. Obviously, this defeats the purpose of the forum.

When I call bullsh!t, they just can’t stand it. Cops don’t like to be challenged and exposed as incompetent boobs. So they attack me rather than my assertions and my research. That’s cool because it tells me they can’t counter because they don’t know what they’re talking about.

PS: Congress doesn’t write traffic law. That is left up to the states and municipalities. I’ve lobbied in about a dozen different states and the arrogance in the state legislatures is matched only on the streets. To even get in, we’re often asked how much we contributed to their reelection campaign. No contribution = no audience.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

James Young writes,

BLA,BLA,BLA.

To tell you the truth I didn't read your post, it has become apparent to everyone how annoying you are. I have a feeling you just like to be a "Resident Expert" type of person, and I won't feed your illness.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

PARIDISE writes:

James, do us all a favor and keep your agenda on your own thread.

Why? And let the resident bullies have all the fun? No way. They've been picking on unsuspecting and trusting posters in a repugnant way. I'm neither unsuspecting nor trusting and I know a hell of a lot more about the topic than they do. James, does it dawn on you this is the internet? You could be homeless sitting in a library typing, so chiming in about how special you are does not cut it.

Do you realize how stupid you look?

Not nearly as stupid as the “advice” offered by those resident bullies. You are hijacking threads,
Please keep your agenda on your own thread as to not confuse people. You are not giving advice, you are going off about the laws in this country. It doesn't do you any good or anyone else. No one cares what your opinion is of the speed laws in this country. You are not going to change them, your on a message board being annoying. Find the appropriate forum for your ideas, and go for it and have fun.

Is this forum in some way your "Binky"?No. My only purpose here is to counter the crap offered by those dishonest bullies. It's your Binky Dude.

Didn't your mother ever teach you that it is ok to have your opinion, but how, when and where you express it should be carefully thought out?
Well, since the purpose of the forum is to provide advice and discourse about a particular issue – in this case, traffic law and traffic safety – my mother would be proud of my preparation and my performance. Wrong, this is not a debate site, and unless you are giving advice as to the current laws of this country, you have no reason to use this forum.


Take it to your congressman, not here, it is not appropriate.
Wait a minute. You’ve got a bunch of arrogant Cro-Magnons offering “advice.” Only the advice they offer is worse than worthless because it consists primarily of smart-ass commentary making fun of anybody who asks a question. Obviously, this defeats the purpose of the forum. That may be true as many people post here, just like you. You are defeating the purpose of this forum. There are internet sites that will have no problem with your agenda, you just happen to be on one that is not for that purpose.



When I call bullsh!t, they just can’t stand it. Cops don’t like to be challenged and exposed as incompetent boobs. So they attack me rather than my assertions and my research. That’s cool because it tells me they can’t counter because they don’t know what they’re talking about. Binky time?


PS: Congress doesn’t write traffic law. That is left up to the states and municipalities. I’ve lobbied in about a dozen different states and the arrogance in the state legislatures is matched only on the streets. To even get in, we’re often asked how much we contributed to their reelection campaign. No contribution = no audience.

I wonder why?

 

[James Young]

PARIDISE writes:

James Young writes,

BLA,BLA,BLA.

This is apparently one of the new ‘ten-codes” meaning, “I don’t have an answer.”

To tell you the truth I didn't read your post, it has become apparent to everyone how annoying you are. I have a feeling you just like to be a "Resident Expert" type of person, and I won't feed your illness.

I really don’t care if I’m annoying the resident bullies or not. I am an expert in policy analysis and I’m no doubt better versed in traffic flow, engineering and traffic safety than the bullies. They might be experts in cleaning up the mess after a crash or in completing reports but really don’t know anything about causes and correlations of those crashes except what their biased agencies tell them in their propaganda. Combine that with the fraud perpetrated by the citation/fine system, and we’ve got a bunch of thugs extracting money from the public for rational, reasonable, and demonstrably successful behavior. Then they have the gall to tell us it’s for our own good. Sure it is. [/sarcasm]

It is not what the LEOs don’t know that’s dangerous. It’s what they think they know that just isn’t so.

Then, ignoring his own advice, PARIDISE writes:

James, does it dawn on you this is the internet? You could be homeless sitting in a library typing, so chiming in about how special you are does not cut it.

???

You are hijacking threads,
Please keep your agenda on your own thread as to not confuse people.

You’ve got to be kidding. Have you actually read some of the BS responses posted under the guise of “advice”? Not only are they uninformative or just flat wrong, they’re condescending. The questioners don’t need or want that. If I expand the argument to include the system of fraud that permeates the system of traffic “safety,” that is legitimate because it affects everybody who drives.

…you are going off about the laws in this country. It doesn't do you any good or anyone else. No one cares what your opinion is of the speed laws in this country. You are not going to change them

We already have changed them. We got the hated and dangerous “55” rescinded but only after the cost of a trillion plus dollars and thousands of unnecessary deaths. Limits are now as high as 75 mph and the fatality rate at an all-time low.

your on a message board being annoying. Find the appropriate forum for your ideas, and go for it and have fun.

I have fun all the time, thank you. Whether I annoy or not is unimportant.

Wrong, this is not a debate site, and unless you are giving advice as to the current laws of this country, you have no reason to use this forum.

Well, then by that criterion, all of the bullies would be precluded from posting here, as well.

And you are wrong. It is a debate site because providing the bogus “advice” invites refutation. I called BS on the bullies and they can’t stand it. You and I both know they’re used to bullying and intimidating people on the street but when they have no advantage, such as on the Internet, they whine like little girls. Let ‘em deal with it.


That may be true as many people post here, just like you. You are defeating the purpose of this forum. There are internet sites that will have no problem with your agenda, you just happen to be on one that is not for that purpose.

The purpose of this forum was perverted when the bullies began posting their BS. We may not like it but any Internet forum is subject to political forces. Cross examination is legitimate in any court, even the court of public opinion. Pointing out the flaws and errors (not to mention the condescension) of the opposition is fair game.

When I call bullsh!t, they just can’t stand it. Cops don’t like to be challenged and exposed as incompetent boobs. So they attack me rather than my assertions and my research. That’s cool because it tells me they can’t counter because they don’t know what they’re talking about.

Binky time?

I have no idea what that means

No contribution = no audience.

I wonder why?

A legitimate question but one better asked of the legislators than rhetorically.

 

[Happy Trails]

Come on James, your smarter than that. You know damn well what bla, bla, bla means.