Welfare Dad No money no child support

[tab62]

What is the name of your state? WA

Is it true that if the dad doesn't have a job that he doesn't have to pay. I live in Washington State with our daughter and he lives in San Francisco, CA.

He hasn't had a job in almost 3 years (MBA Grad) and refuses to take any job and gets a welfare check each month. He has a girlfriend that pays for everything while he works out in the gym 3 hrs a day and watches tv and reads books. He told me that if he doesn't work then he doesn't have to pay a dime to his 14 year old daughter.

Can this be true? Isn't there anything the law can do to him?

Thanks

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tab62@comcast.net

 

[Cookie97128]

Do you have a court order for support?

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

My response:

It's only true as long as you fail to do something about it. Once you do, then it becomes a false statement.

So, it's up to you.

IAAL

 

[tab62]

Do you have a court order for support?

 

[stealth2]

I take it that's a no? Why haven't you filed for one? It's possible he could be imputed an income.

 

[tab62]

Is a court order expensive to do? My 2nd husband makes a good living and we were told that the family court would charges fees and if we went to court against my dead beat first husband that he would obtain a lawyer (free one due to no income) and sue us big time thus costing us lots of $$$. He is claiming mental damage on his part and claims he can not work and we better let him see his daugther anytime without mention of $$$ or else...

 

[VeronicaGia]

To the best of my knowledge, if he is receiving welfare (not SSI, SSDI), welfare is not garnishable.

 

[tigger22472]

They can't garnish welfare I don't think but they still can impute an amount for him to pay. So technically until you get a court order he is right. Legally he's not obligated to pay you anything until a judge says he has to. Is it morally right? No... but that doesn't mean anything in the court of law. With him not working he may be ordered to get a job but you probably won't get much. I'm not sure after 14 years I would even bother. If you've survived this long and don't need it and he's already showed his attitude about it, seems to me you'd save yourself a bunch of headaches dealing with him, and CSE if you just let it go.

 

[Cookie97128]

Contact your local child support enforcement office.

Ask them to open a case against DEAD BEAT DAD, tell them everything. Let them know about his demands and threats.

You will get a court date, his income can/should be imputted. And YES, he CAN be ordered to get a job. If he fails to do so, he CAN go to jail.

Do not allow this father to SKATE scott free. It's his responsibility. He will not get a "free lawyer". Legal aide doesn't help NCP's fight against child support. As well as they shouldn't!

This looser needs to pay and since there are NO ORDERS currently, You also do NOT have to allow him to see your child. But you do need to get this process started soon. You could file for FULL-CUSTODY, No visitation. Has he been involved in your daughter's life? From what I gather, he has not... Just being a pain in the a**.

You may likely pay for court fees, unless CSE handles the case. But the fees really aren't that bad...

I wish you the best of luck...

 

[tigger22472]

Contact your local child support enforcement office.

Ask them to open a case against DEAD BEAT DAD, tell them everything. Let them know about his demands and threats.

CSE won't even open a case against dad until there is a support order.
AND before telling the OP that she doesn't have to let him see the child you should of asked if there was a visitation order. YOU of all people, Cookie, should know that they are separate issues even if you don't abide by the law.

Again OP... by opening a case now with only 4 years left you are asking for more headaches. He's already proven his colors, and you've made it this far. I know it sounds like letting him off but take it from someone who has a TRUE deadbeat. I've fought 4 years for NOTHING but agrevation and have gotten nothing.

 

[oneandonly]

tigger is correct.

Visitation and support are two totally seperate things and viewed by the courts as such.
While you have every right to secure some support for your child, realistically, these things can drag on for years. THis can happen with visitation issues, too.
How does your child feel about seeing the other parent?

 

[tab62]

She loves him but feels scared of him due to him being very strict. When we moved out of Albany, NY (Court orders of custody stated not to leave the area) he felt that he was no longer financially responsible anymore. He didn't stop us from moving to Texas with my current husband but once again he feels that since we moved out of Albany that he didn't have to provide any financial means to her. Funny thing is that he lives in S.F. , CA and only his grandmother lives in Albany, NY.

We have been away from Albany for almost 8 years now. And each time I approach him on Child Support he mentions about leaving Albany, NY and if I don't stop bugging him that he will sue me for leaving Albany. I called the family court in Albany, NY and they told me that he had to file a complaint within 90 days after we left Albany to enforce it. So they laughed when I told them it was over 7 years ago.

 

[tigger22472]

Well if it says not to move and you have and he didn't fight it doesn't mean that if you move AGAIN that he can't. I stand by my position that this isn't a fight you want to get into with so little time left.

 

[3kidsmom]

Ummm Fruitcake,.... I mean Cookie...

Contact your local child support enforcement office.

Ask them to open a case against DEAD BEAT DAD, tell them everything. Let them know about his demands and threats.

You will get a court date, his income can/should be imputted. And YES, he CAN be ordered to get a job. If he fails to do so, he CAN go to jail.

Do not allow this father to SKATE scott free. It's his responsibility. He will not get a "free lawyer". Legal aide doesn't help NCP's fight against child support. As well as they shouldn't!

This looser needs to pay and since there are NO ORDERS currently, You also do NOT have to allow him to see your child. But you do need to get this process started soon. You could file for FULL-CUSTODY, No visitation. Has he been involved in your daughter's life? From what I gather, he has not... Just being a pain in the a**.

You may likely pay for court fees, unless CSE handles the case. But the fees really aren't that bad...

I wish you the best of luck...

**Do us all a favor, please don't post ANY more of your "Free Advice." All you are going to accomplish is getting the OP into trouble.

 

[Cookie97128]

Tab... DO you have a court order for support?

"When we moved out of Albany, NY (Court orders of custody stated not to leave the area) he felt that he was no longer financially responsible anymore. "

This states that you have a order of custody...
Did you get an order for support?

If you do indeed have an order of support, take the order to the local child support enforcement office. Ask them to enforce it. They should take it from there. As for visitation, your daughter is old enough to make her wishes known to the courts if he fights you.

All the others... Bite my @ss...