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[NCPhelp]

What is the name of your state? New York

My 8 year old son in 2nd grade brought home a note that a girl in his class passed to him. It was very sexually explicit and even had 2 stick figures laying on top of each other, with a caption that said, "This is us having sex".

First of all, I was appalled that this came from a second grader. My son doesn't even know what it means. We do not even say that word around our kids.

I took the note into the principal first thing this morning. He was shocked. He could not believe it.

Should this child be suspended from school for sexual harassment?

Thanks,

 

[bononos]

What is the name of your state? New York

My 8 year old son in 2nd grade brought home a note that a girl in his class passed to him. It was very sexually explicit and even had 2 stick figures laying on top of each other, with a caption that said, "This is us having sex".

First of all, I was appalled that this came from a second grader. My son doesn't even know what it means. We do not even say that word around our kids.

I took the note into the principal first thing this morning. He was shocked. He could not believe it.

Should this child be suspended from school for sexual harassment?

Thanks,

My son had another student say: (all kids in 2nd grade)
"If I shot you in the head, would you die?"
His parents and we were called, boy was punnished by recess denial.
A girl in his class was playing "cutting" in line with a boy, the boy said to her:
"I'm going to get my gun and shoot you."
Boy was suspended for 2 days.
(Both IMO were appropriate punnishments)

In 2nd grade, these kids are beginning to hear about sex and hopefully learn from their parents. I've already discussed sex with my 8 yr old. He, himself, brought a learning book home from the school library that had drawn images of a vagina and a non-nude side drawing of a baby in a woman's belly.
We discussed these things.
These kids are becomming curious, some more than others, and are hopefully learning about sex from adults, not older kids or brothers and sisters. Even when taught and discussed properly, kids still have a tough time fully understanding sex, and in 2nd grade (IMO) have no idea what sexual harrassment is so should not be punnished for it.
All parents should be involved of course, but the school and the girls parents need to have a proper "sex talk" with the girl.
I'm actually getting a bit aggrevated with schools suspending children, these kids don't mean it wrong or even know that it is wrong.

OP-
you claim your son doesn't even know about sex, so, should he ever start wrestling or tickling a girl or try to hold her hand, her parents should want him to be suspended for sexual harrassment? Why?
He doesn't know any better.
Put the shoe on the other foot.

 

[bononos]

And to add, since I'm in a huff now...

THE PARENTS are at fault much more than these kids.

My son learned the F-word by older kids on the bus, he also learned how to spell it from it being written on a seat.

And another thing...
Now that you are aware your child has been hearing or seeing info from kids at school about sex, (I'm sure this wasn't the first time a child has referred to sex in front of him), it is YOUR responsibilty to discuss it properly with your son or you are at fault for keeping him in the dark or forcing him to learn from peers to satisfy his curiosity.


READ IT!
http://www.puberty101.com/aacap_talksex.shtml

 

[ceara19]

And to add, since I'm in a huff now...

THE PARENTS are at fault much more than these kids.

My son learned the F-word by older kids on the bus, he also learned how to spell it from it being written on a seat.

And another thing...
Now that you are aware your child has been hearing or seeing info from kids at school about sex, (I'm sure this wasn't the first time a child has referred to sex in front of him), it is YOUR responsibilty to discuss it properly with your son or you are at fault for keeping him in the dark or forcing him to learn from peers to satisfy his curiosity.


READ IT!
http://www.puberty101.com/aacap_talksex.shtml

The parents ARE at fault. But try getting the school to give you any information so that YOU can contact those parents. My sone had a little girl that sat next to him in class that would take her scissors and cut the straps off of his backpack. The teacher sent notes home with both kids the first time it happened. The second time, she moved the child, sent home notes and also sent a note to the girls parents from ME, asking that they call me. When it happened a THIRD time and the parents STILL refused to contact me, her hands were tied because the law does not allow her to give me the information. She couldn't even tell me the mother's name, which was different from the child's, so it was impossible for me to find it on my own. The teacher's only choice was to have the girl moved to another class, it didn't solve the actual problem with the kid, but it's saved me alot of money!

 

[Ohiogal]

Should the child be suspended for sexual harrassment? Tough call.
HOWEVER, I agree with the other posters. OP you need to sit down with your 8 year old and talk about the birds and the bees. I subbed in middle schools before I went to law school and let me just say -- these kids were discussing oral sex parties as though they were nothing. High schoolers were parading around in midriff baring tops while they were nine months pregnant. It is never too soon if the child is asking about it.

 

[bononos]

It makes me think of this, I heard this last week.
The 2ND GRADER is and will be punnished.
Who's fault was this??????????????????
Not the kids.


7-year-old's drugs stump police, school
How cocaine got in her bag and how officials reacted are being probed. Another Phila. girl may have ingested some.
By Martha Woodall and Barbara Boyer
Inquirer Staff Writers

Philadelphia police yesterday were trying to find out how a second grader got 12 bags of crack cocaine and took them in her book bag to John M. Patterson Elementary School in Southwest Philadelphia.

And after a mother complained that she had not been told that her daughter may have eaten some of the chunky powder, the school district began investigating whether school officials reacted properly when they found the bags Monday afternoon.

Paul Vallas, the district's chief executive, said last night that the mother called Patterson officials shortly after 4 p.m. Monday, when her daughter told her that she had put some of the substance in her mouth.

After police determined at 6:30 p.m. that the substance was cocaine, Vallas said, school officials called the mother back and suggested that her daughter be examined at a hospital.

The girl was treated at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and released.

The bags, 18 in total, were carried to the school, at 70th Street and Buist Avenue, by a 7-year-old girl Monday morning, police said.

She showed them to friends, and second graders were passing the packets around in class when a teacher confiscated them, said Capt. Benjamin Naish, a police spokesman. The teacher alerted the principal, and police were called.

Twelve of the bags contained a white, chunky substance suspected to be crack, Naish said. The other six were empty.

"Basically, these were $5 crack bags," he said. "It's unclear right now how the child obtained the drugs."

The child told school officials that she had found them in her book bag.

Naish said that the girl had found the packets in her book bag before the weekend, but that it was unclear when they had been placed there.

The investigation includes search warrants and interviews, he said.

The girl lives with her parents but spent the weekend at her grandmother's house, Vallas said.

"How does a second grader get her hands on cocaine?" he wondered. "Where does that come from?"

Patterson principal Anibal Soler sent letters home with students yesterday about the discovery.

The girl who took the drugs to school will not be permitted to return until a guardian has met with Soler and the regional superintendent, district spokesman Vincent Thompson said. The district will then decide the girl's discipline, he said.

"Bringing in drugs is a violation of the student code of conduct, and that is applicable for every child," Thompson said.

Patterson has 741 children in kindergarten through fourth grade.