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what can a collector say on a answer machine

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merejazmine

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What is the name of your state? SD
I have a 6 1/2 yr old cc bill and i was wondering what they can say on a answering machine, because i had a message today that gave the telephone #, and company name, that was fine with me, but they also put a reference # on my machine that anyone in my house (ex. babysitter) could of called and found out everything on the account by saying it was me. so the question is are they allowed to give out a reference# or acct # on the answering machine????? Thanks!
 


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merejazmine said:
What is the name of your state? SD
I have a 6 1/2 yr old cc bill and i was wondering what they can say on a answering machine, because i had a message today that gave the telephone #, and company name, that was fine with me, but they also put a reference # on my machine that anyone in my house (ex. babysitter) could of called and found out everything on the account by saying it was me. so the question is are they allowed to give out a reference# or acct # on the answering machine????? Thanks!

**A: rather than worring about your account # being left on a recorder, start spending time figuring out how to pay the debt.
 
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kevinss

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HomeGuru has a good point. Why does it matter? Anyone in your home could also open up your CC bills and get your active account numbers that way. They could get into your wallet and take money. They can pick up the phone and make long distance calls on it. They can... well, you get the idea.
If you don't trust the people in your home, the problem isn't consumer credit-related.
The actual answer is no - they haven't violated the law by leaving a company name, reference number, and telephone number on your machine.
 
It is a common practice for Collection Agencies to call and leave a return number, their name along with the "referencing account number." As with the last posting No law was broke in this fashion. However you might want to take note to what they can and can not do by reading the information below.

Sec. 1692c. - Communication in connection with debt collection


(a) Communication with the consumer generally



Without the prior consent of the consumer given directly to the debt collector or the express permission of a court of competent jurisdiction, a debt collector may not communicate with a consumer in connection with the collection of any debt -

(1)

at any unusual time or place or a time or place known or which should be known to be inconvenient to the consumer. In the absence of knowledge of circumstances to the contrary, a debt collector shall assume that the convenient time for communicating with a consumer is after 8 o'clock antemeridian and before 9 o'clock postmeridian, local time at the consumer's location;

(2)

if the debt collector knows the consumer is represented by an attorney with respect to such debt and has knowledge of, or can readily ascertain, such attorney's name and address, unless the attorney fails to respond within a reasonable period of time to a communication from the debt collector or unless the attorney consents to direct communication with the consumer; or

(3)

at the consumer's place of employment if the debt collector knows or has reason to know that the consumer's employer prohibits the consumer from receiving such communication.

(b) Communication with third parties



Except as provided in section 1692b of this title, without the prior consent of the consumer given directly to the debt collector, or the express permission of a court of competent jurisdiction, or as reasonably necessary to effectuate a postjudgment judicial remedy, a debt collector may not communicate, in connection with the collection of any debt, with any person other than the consumer, his attorney, a consumer reporting agency if otherwise permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the attorney of the debt collector.

(c) Ceasing communication



If a consumer notifies a debt collector in writing that the consumer refuses to pay a debt or that the consumer wishes the debt collector to cease further communication with the consumer, the debt collector shall not communicate further with the consumer with respect to such debt, except -

(1)

to advise the consumer that the debt collector's further efforts are being terminated;

(2)

to notify the consumer that the debt collector or creditor may invoke specified remedies which are ordinarily invoked by such debt collector or creditor; or

(3)

where applicable, to notify the consumer that the debt collector or creditor intends to invoke a specified remedy.


If such notice from the consumer is made by mail, notification shall be complete upon receipt.

(d) ''Consumer'' defined



For the purpose of this section, the term ''consumer'' includes the consumer's spouse, parent (if the consumer is a minor), guardian, executor, or administrator



I am sure this would help any potential future questions of this nature.
 

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