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What can I do? Former employer lied to EDD

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mandaraae17

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? California

My former employer and I had been in talks about replacing me, though I had expressed my desire to stay on as their employee. Then, I ended up needing surgery, and they replaced me while I was in the hospital. When I went in 3 days after my surgery to see how the cafe I worked at was doing, they informed me that they had hired someone to replace me and they no longer had room for me on the schedule. I filed for unemployment, and when I was called for my eligibility interview, I was informed that my former employer told them that I had quit, given a verbal two weeks notice. What can I do about this?
 


cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
Maybe a lot, maybe nothing.

How long have you worked for this employer?

How many employees does your employer have within 75 miles of your location?

In the twelve months immediately preceding your medical leave, did you work a minimum of 1,250 hours for this employer?

In the last 12 months, how much time OVERALL have you missed for medical reasons? (for the purpose of this question, I am not concerned with how much was paid, how much was unpaid, excused, unexcused, or any other details; I want simply the number of days/weeks/months in total that you've missed in that time.)
 

mandaraae17

Junior Member
I worked for them for about 1 year and 9 months. It's a small business, so they only have 5 employees I think, they may have hired again since they got rid of me (I saw a job ad on Craigslist for them). Without looking into records, I want to say I've worked at least 1250 hours in the last 12 months before my surgery. And time missed for medical reasons, 9 days.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
If they have only 5 employees, they fall under the radar as far as any laws that will protect you are concerned. The termination, while it may be unfair, is legal.

With regards to what they told the EDD, you may rest assured that the EDD has heard lies from both employers and employees before. They operate on the assumption that one or both parties may well be lying. They are quite used to this. Stand by for commentator, who knows the UI system inside and out, to walk you through how you deal with this now.
 

commentator

Senior Member
I put in a post concerning this and then got it dropped somehow. But anyhow, OP, do not worry about the fact that they may have told EDD something completely different than what actually happened. The department will work it all out, and will do so with the statements from both parties. They are not more believable just because they are the employer, and the agency works at making decisions with the assumption that one or both parties may be lying.

It's not anything you could sue the employer for, but what they say is going to be weighed against what you say, and the decision will go to the one who is "most believable" in this situation.

It is NOT necessary that you bring up some discussions that you had in the past concerning whether you were thinking of leaving or staying with this employer. That is not relevant to what happened while you were out on leave. Don't you be the one to bring it up.

It is only necessary to explain what happened at the point that you, completely unexpectedly were confronted with the news that you had been replaced while you were on medical leave. As has been explored, they didn't have to give you FMLA, since the business was too small, but even so, you were replaced by them, you DID NOT quit the job. You state, very firmly and professionally that you did not quit the job, did not give them a verbal resignation, had no intentions of quitting the job, and were fully prepared to return to the job when you were told by your employer that you had been replaced and that you no longer had a job to return to.

You will be asked to produce medical statements which will show you are fully released to return to full time work while filing a claim. These will, of course, verify that you left on xxx date due to medical reasons. Then you tell how on xxx date, you again returned to the work site and talked with supervisor John Doe, who told you that.... Just as it happened. Let them say anything they want, you just tell exactly what did happen.

If you are approved, be prepared for them to appeal the approval, which they have a right to do. If you are denied, you will be appealing the decision immediately. You don't need to produce an argument in the appeal, just say "I wish to appeal this decision." A hearing will be scheduled, at which both parties are invited to attend either in person or by conference call.

Even if you have won the initial appeal, you will, of course, want to participate in the appeals hearing if one is scheduled, to make sure your side of the story is told. Once again, you describe the situation as it has actually happened, let them say anything they wish to say about the reason you left.

There's no need for you to jump up and accuse them, question them or call them liars. Don't even be surprised, I once saw it happen, if the employer produced a trumped up letter of resignation that the employee had supposedly given them. All you need to do in this circumstance is state, at the appropriate interval, "This is not my signature, I did not write this letter, I never saw it before today!"

You keep it quiet, factual and brief. And you try very hard to be the more believable party, which when the truth is on your side, should become obvious to the adjudicator who is making the decisions.
 
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