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What qualifies as Fraud??

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zeuss

Member
What is the name of your state? Michigan. What constitutes fraud when your on Disability. Disability not from a company but health issues not able to work. Please tell me if this is true, from the time you file your first paperwork to get accepted for SS benefits you have to report any income of any kind. This amount will be taken out of your total benefits when you get accepted. This person filed and was turned down the first time so they got a lawyer and fought it, was then accepted and is receiving money, this took a little of two years. In that two years time this person has been through at least 4 and working on 2 more law suits in 4 different states where he did and is receiving settlements. This person receives a large sum already from his monthly disability checks. Does SS track any of this or do they have anyway too track an income by a lawsuit?
 


BL

Senior Member
Disability not from a company but health issues not able to work.

There is SSDI ( eligible from work history ) . That entitlement would not change due to the type of income you refer to /

There is also SSI ( supplemental either in addition , or separately from SSDI ) . the income you refer to would be counted as assets and effect SSI .
 

BLeonard

Member
He's got multiple lawsuits in different states for one case of SSDI? That part I don't understand.

I was approved for SSDI about 2 years ago, and pretty much, to be safe, any time you get income from any work, you should report it. It doesn't necessarily mean that your benefits will stop or even decrease. For example, I'm working with a company that helps people on SSDI get jobs they can do and not lose any of their SSDI benefits. Pending on how much you get for SSDI, you have a limit to how much money you can make for a month. For example, I get about $800 for SSDI and, under this program, I can make any amount for the first nine months of it. Afterward, I am still eligible for my benefit check if I make under $900 in that month. If I make over $900, I'm inelegible for that month's benefit check.

Again, this is just my case and the program that I'm on. From what I've heard, almost every SSDI case is different. But, one consistent that I've heard is, if you are getting income from a job or something, while on SSDI, your best bet is to always report it. You'd get in more trouble if you needed to report it and failed to than you would if you did report it and didn't need to.

Hope that helps.

-Bill
 

seniorjudge

Senior Member
Q: Does SS track any of this or do they have anyway too track an income by a lawsuit?

A: If they do track it, then they are doing a danged poor job since I know of several fraudulent cases myself!
 

BL

Senior Member
Q: Does SS track any of this or do they have anyway too track an income by a lawsuit?

A: If they do track it, then they are doing a danged poor job since I know of several fraudulent cases myself!

If a person receives said incomes , and are recorded with there SS # , the Gov. & states' Agencies are suppose to be set up to " cross check " each other .

Just my 2 C's . :D
 

zeuss

Member
What qualifies as Fraud

This person has had 4 lawsuits in the past 4 years that he has collected funds from, one rather large. All while he was going through the process of getting approved for Social Security. These were not related to his SS case, they were other things. This person is presently sueing his brother and sister-in-law. Also about to receive a very large sum of money from a case that his other son (who is now grown and gone) was involved in where a priest sexualy molested him from Kentucky back in the late 90's. How the dad also gets thousands of dollars is beyond me but he is. He claims that his son never would have testified if it wasn't for him pushing him to do so. So he should get paid for that instead of doing something right. He scams everyone while running to the bank with his money he collects. There are several people who would like to turn him in for fraud but were not sure if his scams would be considered fraud.
 

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