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What will happen if I allow my kids in a home where pot is grown?

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desperateinpa

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? I live in PA, but the home in question is located in NY.

A close family member of ours lives in NY and we've recently found out that this person grows marijuana in their home. So, my question is this: In NY, if you knowingly bring your children into a home where it is known that marijuana is grown, what will happen to you and your children? Thanks for ANY advice anyone can give me!
 


the_destiny

Junior Member
desperateinpa said:
What is the name of your state? I live in PA, but the home in question is located in NY.

A close family member of ours lives in NY and we've recently found out that this person grows marijuana in their home. So, my question is this: In NY, if you knowingly bring your children into a home where it is known that marijuana is grown, what will happen to you and your children? Thanks for ANY advice anyone can give me!

It is possible you could lose custody of your children for endangering them... Not to mention going to jail, etc...
 

ENASNI

Senior Member
What??

I will personally get my butt on a plane to back East... take your kids away, and beat you stupid with a two by four....Oh wait... you already are stupid.
 

calatty

Senior Member
Is the marijuana being grown in the open where the kids can see it? If not, then you have nothing to worry about for sure, and even if yes, how does standing next to a marijuana plant endanger a child?
 

calatty

Senior Member
Lose custody and go to jail? Nonsense. Is the marijuana being grown in the open where the kids can see it? If not, then you have nothing to worry about for sure, and even if yes, how does standing next to a marijuana plant endanger a child?
 

desperateinpa

Junior Member
ENANSI(please read)

I have not exposed my children to marijuana in this person's home or my own. I do not smoke marijuana...I did in college a very few times just experimenting...and I do not allow anyone to smoke it in my children's presence.

If this was just some way down the line relative I would not be too worried, I'd just say, oh well, no more visits, however, this is my mother-in-law and my husband & I disagree on this because he & his mom think I'm overreacting and being unreasonable saying, "It's so unlikely that anyone will find out and that you'll lose the kids". I don't want to take a risk, but I also honestly want to know what the laws are since marijuana has been decriminalized in NY if that is a possibility. I still would not want my children there regardless and I would still not allow anyone to smoke around my children, but I just wanted to be armed with facts rather than "irrational fears".

I hope this clears up any misconceptions you might have gotten about me. I am only trying to provide a strong fact-based argument to my husband so that this does not tear us apart due to his own mother's poor judgement regarding our children.
 

desperateinpa

Junior Member
Calatty

It is not being grown in the open where children can see it and I in fact, do not know what area of the home it is being grown in. I only know it is there. I didn't want details as I disagree wtih it anyway since it is illegal.

What harm would standing next to a marijuana plant cause a child? None, unless they ate a leaf or somehting off of one...which could happen with my youngest, but is admittedly unlikely.

I don't want it smoked around the children because: 1. it is illegal and I don't want them to grow up and think it's ok to break society's laws and 2. they don't need to be around second-hand smoke...period.

I don't want them in a home where it grows because I don't want them to get into something they shoudln't and I do not want to risk losing them over something I don't agree with in the first place. However, I do not want to totally shut their grandmother out of their lives, I just think it would be best if we saw them outside of her home is all.
 

You Are Guilty

Senior Member
ACS can and will get a neglect finding against you in Family Court for knowingly permitting/bringing your kids to a drug house. Odds are you might lose custody temporarily while they looked into it, but not permanently. You will likely be offered a parenting skills class and random drug testing plea bargain. If you have a really good lawyer, you might be able to swing an ACD.
 

desperateinpa

Junior Member
Thank you!

You Are Guilty said:
ACS can and will get a neglect finding against you in Family Court for knowingly permitting/bringing your kids to a drug house. Odds are you might lose custody temporarily while they looked into it, but not permanently. You will likely be offered a parenting skills class and random drug testing plea bargain. If you have a really good lawyer, you might be able to swing an ACD.


I appreciate your response. I am not willing to lose my kids even temporarily just because this woman wants to smoke pot for her own leisure. Do you know of any websites which I might go to and print out laws regarding this for NY? I would like to print them out to show to my husband and my mother-in-law when we sit down to have our final discussion about this. Thanks again:)
 

You Are Guilty

Senior Member
desperateinpa said:
I appreciate your response. I am not willing to lose my kids even temporarily just because this woman wants to smoke pot for her own leisure. Do you know of any websites which I might go to and print out laws regarding this for NY? I would like to print them out to show to my husband and my mother-in-law when we sit down to have our final discussion about this. Thanks again:)

For the illegality of weed, go here: http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS

And under Penal Law, look for section 221 and its subsections.

As far as the pertinent Family Law, here are the definitions (s. 1012):
(a) "Respondent" includes any parent or other person legally
responsible for a child's care who is alleged to have abused or
neglected such child;
(b) "Child" means any person or persons alleged to have been abused or
neglected, whichever the case may be;
(c) "A case involving abuse" means any proceeding under this article
in which there are allegations that one or more of the children of, or
the legal responsibility of, the respondent are abused children;
(d) "Drug" means any substance defined as a controlled substance in
section thirty-three hundred six of the public health law;
(e) "Abused child" means a child less than eighteen years of age whose
parent or other person legally responsible for his care
(i) inflicts or allows to be inflicted upon such child physical injury
by other than accidental means which causes or creates a substantial
risk of death, or serious or protracted disfigurement, or protracted
impairment of physical or emotional health or protracted loss or
impairment of the function of any bodily organ, or
(ii) creates or allows to be created a substantial risk of physical
injury to such child by other than accidental means which would be
likely to cause death or serious or protracted disfigurement, or
protracted impairment of physical or emotional health or protracted loss
or impairment of the function of any bodily organ, or
(iii) commits, or allows to be committed an offense against such
child defined in article one hundred thirty of the penal law; allows,
permits or encourages such child to engage in any act described in
sections 230.25, 230.30 and 230.32 of the penal law; commits any of the
acts described in section 255.25 of the penal law; or allows such child
to engage in acts or conduct described in article two hundred
sixty-three of the penal law provided, however, that (a) the
corroboration requirements contained in the penal law and (b) the age
requirement for the application of article two hundred sixty-three of
such law shall not apply to proceedings under this article.
(f) "Neglected child" means a child less than eighteen years of age
(i) whose physical, mental or emotional condition has been impaired or
is in imminent danger of becoming impaired as a result of the failure of
his parent or other person legally responsible for his care to exercise
a minimum degree of care
(A) in supplying the child with adequate food, clothing, shelter or
education in accordance with the provisions of part one of article
sixty-five of the education law, or medical, dental, optometrical or
surgical care, though financially able to do so or offered financial or
other reasonable means to do so; or
(B) in providing the child with proper supervision or guardianship, by
unreasonably inflicting or allowing to be inflicted harm, or a
substantial risk thereof, including the infliction of excessive corporal
punishment; or by misusing a drug or drugs; or by misusing alcoholic
beverages to the extent that he loses self-control of his actions; or by
any other acts of a similarly serious nature requiring the aid of the
court; provided, however, that where the respondent is voluntarily and
regularly participating in a rehabilitative program, evidence that the
respondent has repeatedly misused a drug or drugs or alcoholic beverages
to the extent that he loses self-control of his actions shall not
establish that the child is a neglected child in the absence of evidence
establishing that the child's physical, mental or emotional condition
has been impaired or is in imminent danger of becoming impaired as set
forth in paragraph (i) of this subdivision; or

(ii) who has been abandoned, in accordance with the definition and other criteria set forth in subdivision five of section three hundred eighty-four-b of the social services law, by his parents or other person legally responsible for his care. (g) "Person legally responsible" includes the child's custodian, guardian, any other person responsible for the child's care at the relevant time. Custodian may include any person continually or at regular intervals found in the same household as the child when the conduct of such person causes or contributes to the abuse or neglect of the child. (h) "Impairment of emotional health" and "impairment of mental or emotional condition" includes a state of substantially diminished psychological or intellectual functioning in relation to, but not limited to, such factors as failure to thrive, control of aggressive or self-destructive impulses, ability to think and reason, or acting out or misbehavior, including incorrigibility, ungovernability or habitual truancy; provided, however, that such impairment must be clearly attributable to the unwillingness or inability of the respondent to exercise a minimum degree of care toward the child. (i) "Child protective agency" means any duly authorized society for the prevention of cruelty to children or the child protective service of the appropriate local department of social services or such other agencies with whom the local department has arranged for the provision of child protective services under the local plan for child protective services or an Indian tribe that has entered into an agreement with the state department of social services pursuant to section thirty-nine of the social services law to provide child protective services. (j) "Aggravated circumstances" means where a child has been either severely or repeatedly abused, as defined in subdivision eight of section three hundred eighty-four-b of the social services law. (k) "Permanency hearing" means a hearing held in accordance with section one thousand thirty-nine-b, one thousand fifty-two, one thousand fifty-five or one thousand fifty-five-a of this article for the purpose of reviewing the foster care status of the child and the appropriateness of the permanency plan developed by the social services official.

And the procedural stuff on how it actually happens is 1020 et seq. (timing of various removals and return to custody) and 1030 et seq. (hearings).
 

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