When does child support start

[CourtClerk]

You go to a yard sale... you see a chair.

At $5 it's an old chair
At $500, the same chair is an antique

 

[sunnydaze]

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The Father has admitted he is the Father. As the parents of the minor daughter whom is pregnant we are paying for all medical costs. The Father is not bearing any costs. The Father does not have resources that we have $$$$. As the parents of the minor duaghter we could in fact make life rather miserable if we took legal action.

Question: Should I have the Father submit to a DNA test ASAP.

I do not want screw the Father at all. I just want him to take responsibility [financially]. I would like to keep attorneys out of it. Could someone explain how I could make this easy on the Father without dragging him thru court are paralegals services good to use.


Thanks for all the input

 

[nextwife]

You go to a yard sale... you see a chair.

At $5 it's an old chair
At $500, the same chair is an antique

I also buy LOCAL stuff on Ebay in which the seller will allow pickup. Great for BIG stuff. I'll shop for cars and furniture and sort by "nearest first", and ONLY consider those bulky items that are close by. My van was located on Ebay at a local car dealer, but I went and bought it at the dealer direct and they pulled it from auction.

But Craig's List is also great!

 

[justalayman]

make it easy on the father?

don;t ask him for anything and let him be but that is not what should be done. With many young folks without a lot of money, asking him to pay for anything is seen as an improper imposition. Too bad.

It would do no good to do a DNA test now since the baby has not been born (and you do not want to have your daughter do what it would to do a DNA test in situ.)

the only proper way to do this is to go through court. They will set the support amount per state guidlelines and order him to pay what they require the father to pay. An attorney is not neccessary unless your state has arbitrary requirements for support and he would want to contest the amount.

This way, things are "official" and neither side gets less than they should per state law.

 

[CourtClerk]

The Father has admitted he is the Father.

That's all fine and good, but until the State recognizes him as the father...that doesn't mean squat.

As the parents of the minor daughter whom is pregnant we are paying for all medical costs. The Father is not bearing any costs.

As you should because as we have stated before, he has no obligation to your daughter or the costs of anything before a court makes him obligated to them. He is not required to help you pay for medical expenses, he is not required to pay for maternity clothes, he is not required to give her one red cent until there is a CO establishing support.

The Father does not have resources that we have $$$$.

He is who she picked.

As the parents of the minor duaghter we could in fact make life rather miserable if we took legal action.

And as responsible parents, you should. I believe the age of consent in your state is 18. If he's doing a child, he should be held legally responsible for it, as well as financially responsible. He will still be financially responsible (eventually) if he is held legally responsible. If you choose to sweep this under the rug, then don't look at it as if you are doing him a favor and don't try and hold it against her when she does it again.

Question: Should I have the Father submit to a DNA test ASAP.

One more time. YOU cannot make the father submit to anything. This is between your daugher, her boyfriend and a court of law. You have no rights in this. At. All.

I do not want screw the Father at all. I just want him to take responsibility [financially].

This has nothing to do with what you want. He will take financial responsibility when a court makes him. Even then, if someone is hell bent in avoiding paying child support, they will.

I would like to keep attorneys out of it.

You can, seeing as if you have no cause of action here in a child support case. You can't appear at all in fact.

Could someone explain how I could make this easy on the Father without dragging him thru court are paralegals services good to use.


Thanks for all the input

A paralegal can prepare documents, but can't advise you or your daughter legally. Nor can they go about filing said papers for your daughter in court and appearing on your daughter's behalf.

Out of pure curiosity, how old is he and how old is she?

 

[Ohiogal]

The Father has admitted he is the Father.

Sorry but legally that is NOT possible. He cannot state that he is the father legally because there is no child legally for him to be the father of.

As the parents of the minor daughter whom is pregnant we are paying for all medical costs. The Father is not bearing any costs. The Father does not have resources that we have $$$$. As the parents of the minor duaghter we could in fact make life rather miserable if we took legal action.

What part of this are you not understanding? He is an adult -- how old? How old is your minor child? YOU do not have the right to seek child support. YOUR daughter does. ONCE the baby is born and paternity is established.

Question: Should I have the Father submit to a DNA test ASAP.

You cannot do that. PLEASE comprehend what you are being told. Your daughter can petition the court to have the putative father submit to a paternity test upon the birth of the child. If he is not the father she will pay for it.

I do not want screw the Father at all. I just want him to take responsibility [financially]. I would like to keep attorneys out of it. Could someone explain how I could make this easy on the Father without dragging him thru court are paralegals services good to use.

No paralegals are not good to use. Your daughter can do this pro se if she is smart enough but considering her parent is online asking these questions you will have to hire her an attorney. Your daughter WAS MATURE ENOUGH to have sex with him, get pregnant by him, and decide to carry the child. That makes your daughter MATURE enough to be a parent and pursue establishment of paternity and child support. And the fact that you do not want to screw the father at all is probably a good thing since he is the purported father of your grandchild-to-be and that would be rather incestuous.

Arizona does allow mom (MEANING YOUR DAUGHTER) to sue for the cost of delivery and the medical costs associated with pregnancy. HOWEVER for a crib and such she is on her own. That is what a baby shower is for. Throw one for her.


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[nextwife]

The Father has admitted he is the Father. As the parents of the minor daughter whom is pregnant we are paying for all medical costs. The Father is not bearing any costs. The Father does not have resources that we have $$$$. As the parents of the minor duaghter we could in fact make life rather miserable if we took legal action.

Question: Should I have the Father submit to a DNA test ASAP.

I do not want screw the Father at all. I just want him to take responsibility [financially]. I would like to keep attorneys out of it. Could someone explain how I could make this easy on the Father without dragging him thru court are paralegals services good to use.

Thanks for all the input

Honestly? Dad CAN'T really KNOW that he's the father unless he has spent 24/7 every day with your daughter. He can only know he's POSSIBLY the father. And your daughter may be afraid to admit whether any other possibilities exist, as she's probably thinks she's already in enough trouble..

In all fairness to your future grandchild, do NOT accept potential dad's paternity UNLESS you obtain DNA proof. Because if in five or ten years, you discover this man is NOT dad, YOUR grandchild will have been ROBBED of knowing their paternal biofamily. And is your desire to make this happen fast more important than this child's RIGHT to know who their biofamily REALLY is?

Get the paternity CORRECT right from the start.

 

[Ohiogal]

Age of consent is 18 HOWEVER....

A down and dirty search reveals the following:
B. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to sections 13-1404 and 13-1405 in which the victim's lack of consent is based on incapacity to consent because the victim was fifteen, sixteen or seventeen years of age if at the time the defendant engaged in the conduct constituting the offence the defendant did not know and could not reasonably have known the age of the victim.
D. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1404 or 13-1405 that the person was the spouse (legally married AND cohabiting) of the other person at the time of commission of the act...
F. It is a defense to a prosecution pursuant to section 13-1405 if the victim is fifteen, sixteen or seventeen years of age, the defendant is under nineteen years of age or attending high school and is no more than twenty-four months older than the victim and the conduct is consensual.

So how old is he and how old was she? And your daughter should NOT keep courts out of it.

 

[sunnydaze]

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Thanks for all the great advice!!!!! It sounds like the prudent thing to do is hire an Attorney and let the chips fall were they may.

My daughter was sixteen the father was nineteen at the time of conception. The parents of the boy have been trying to muniplate this whole situation. Trying to have my daughter move into boys parents house.

 

[justalayman]

And the fact that you do not want to screw the father at all is probably a good thing since he is the purported father of your grandchild-to-be and that would be rather incestuous.
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You didn't really say that did you O?

 

[Ohiogal]

You didn't really say that did you O?

NO. Actually OP said that:

I do not want screw the Father at all.

All I said was that was a good thing. I NEED TO START FEELING BETTER. Damnit. I need summer.

 

[MrsK]

Thanks for all the great advice!!!!! It sounds like the prudent thing to do is hire an Attorney and let the chips fall were they may.

My daughter was sixteen the father was nineteen at the time of conception. The parents of the boy have been trying to muniplate this whole situation. Trying to have my daughter move into boys parents house.

Can I just ask what is your part in this, OP? Did you not know your 16 yr old was dating a 19 yr old?

 

[Ohiogal]

Can I just ask what is your part in this, OP? Did you not know your 16 yr old was dating a 19 yr old?

My guess: they approved until darling daughter got pregnant and THEN they realized there were issues. Which doesn't change anything.

 

[MrsK]

My guess: they approved until darling daughter got pregnant and THEN they realized there were issues. Which doesn't change anything.

I think so, too...which is ridiculous.

Perhaps OP will enlighten us.