When does this become harassment?

[not2cleverRed]

No, no, no. Not that one. I barely even got anything that time. I'm referring to the one from my "conversation" with the current neighbors that happened on April 8th. I was wondering about the legality of posting it. I was thinking of putting it on Youtube and linking to it from there. That's the only way I know of to post a video. If there is another, I'm willing to hear about it.

No. Please don't.

 

[Zigner]

Perhaps not. But I was simply looking for some advice about it from people who could see it as it actually happened rather than my own view of it. Sometimes it's easier to judge something by seeing it for yourself rather than someone's own description of it.

No, what you want is to shame the neighbor and show how right you are. Grow up.

 

[Subjection1]

If you told her anything other than to keep your kid from hitting my house you handled it wrong. No need to see the video.

Fair enough.
I did bring up some other things while they were there. I made mention of the security camera at that time, and also a hole in my siding that I noticed near my window which she claimed was there since they moved in. It's also when she started bringing up how she's had her suspicions about me ever since they moved in and based that on things that I know aren't true, such as the idea that all my curtains in my house are always closed except for the one facing her house. So yeah, there were other things brought up. But the original reason they were at my door in the first place is because I had opened my window and told the kid to stop throwing things at my house, and she didn't like that.

 

[Subjection1]

No, what you want is to shame the neighbor and show how right you are. Grow up.

I think we have a miscommunication here. I didn't intend to put the video on Youtube for everyone to see. As I mentioned, it was for the purpose of linking to it here. I don't know of any other way to share videos. And as I said before, if there's another way of doing it, I'm willing to hear about it. But if Youtube was the only way to do it, I wouldn't be labeling the video with anything that identifies who's in it or where they live.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

Fair enough.
I did bring up some other things while they were there. I made mention of the security camera at that time, and also a hole in my siding that I noticed near my window which she claimed was there since they moved in. It's also when she started bringing up how she's had her suspicions about me ever since they moved in and based that on things that I know aren't true, such as the idea that all my curtains in my house are always closed except for the one facing her house. So yeah, there were other things brought up. But the original reason they were at my door in the first place is because I had opened my window and told the kid to stop throwing things at my house, and she didn't like that.

Last try at this.

You have every right to record her kid from your window.

You have every right to tell her kid to stop hitting your house.

You have every right to have you kitchen curtain open.

If you have a lick of sense you will not discuss the issue with her anymore until you have proof that her child was doing something he shouldn't have been doing. SHe already has you on the defensive. She is clearly smarter than you.

 

[Subjection1]

Last try at this.

You have every right to record her kid from your window.

You have every right to tell her kid to stop hitting your house.

You have every right to have you kitchen curtain open.

If you have a lick of sense you will not discuss the issue with her anymore until you have proof that her child was doing something he shouldn't have been doing. SHe already has you on the defensive. She is clearly smarter than you.

Understood. I was simply addressing what you said about whether other subjects were brought up during our conversation.
But to my original question: Do any of the actions from my neighbors as I described so far on their own qualify as harassment under the law?

 

[Zigner]

As much as it's not harassment for you to look out your window, it's not harassment for her to look out her window.

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

Not on their part or yours and that was answered in the first post.

 

[Zigner]

Why don't you replace that one window with one-way glass...? (Just trying to think outside the box.)

 

[Subjection1]

Not on their part or yours and that was answered in the first post.

I see where you said:

You looking out your window will never be harassment or anything else illegal.

This identifies what I did as not being harassment, but I was asking about the actions of the neighbor. Specifically the threats to call the police (and actually calling them), staring at me when I'm outside, pointing a camera into my window, letting her kid look in my windows. I would just like to know if I'm to contact the police or landlord about it, what would be identified individually as being harassment? Does it have to be a specific instance, or can it be a pattern of behavior?

 

[PayrollHRGuy]

You obviously saw where I also wrote "Not on their part or yours..." because you quoted it.

I can see from this thread and your post history why your neighbors may think you are a little creepy.

 

[Subjection1]

You obviously saw where I also wrote "Not on their part or yours..." because you quoted it.

I can see from this thread and your post history why your neighbors may think you are a little creepy.

Fine. I won't ask about it anymore.

 

[HRZ]

OP...mom is off the deep end to expect you not to look out your window. BUt somehow fuel gott added to fire . I am not a fan of writing letters..they can be twisted against you later...at least edit it with care and stick to facts not accusations.

ABsent some telescope aimed at neighbors bedrooms or bathrooms , my guess is you have a right to install your own security cameras, motion detectors and lighting ....

WI has laws about parental responsibility for the torts of thier children ...look up and perhaps copy neighbor IF there are damages worth a discuss.

YOu also have a right to serve notice on that neighbor and everyone in that household not to trespass on your lands...look it up and get the steps right .

Hard to devine who is getting things blown up...but I'm leaning towards this mom is not exercising reasonable control over a young child ...and blaming others for everything ...but hey, cut the youngster a bit of slack and go the extra mile to make peach with the child.

 

[Subjection1]

OP...mom is off the deep end to expect you not to look out your window. BUt somehow fuel gott added to fire . I am not a fan of writing letters..they can be twisted against you later...at least edit it with care and stick to facts not accusations.

The letter I've got written but not sent has been looked over by me dozens of times to make sure I get it right. I actually like letters over verbal contact because they can be worded more carefully without emotions of the moment getting in the way and causing me to say something I shouldn't.

Hard to devine who is getting things blown up...but I'm leaning towards this mom is not exercising reasonable control over a young child ...and blaming others for everything ...but hey, cut the youngster a bit of slack and go the extra mile to make peach with the child.

Right now, I'm afraid to even look at the kid since he tells his mother everything and then she interprets it as me doing something worthy of calling the police for (and has threatened to do so again in the future). I don't even know what caused these people to think so negatively about me in the first place other than what she said during our one conversation, which is the fact that I have curtains on my window open and looked out the window after hearing things banging against my house.

 

[HRZ]

Not for legal content...have two friends read your letter first to see if others think it says what you think it says..if I read my own stuff a dozen times I'm likely to make the same mistake in meaning a dozen times too.