when is enough ... enough?????? this is becoming unreal!!!!

[auntiebeefy]

What is the name of your state? indiana

this is the last child on the support, she is now 18, and pregnant, she is still a junior in high school,and has already flunked at least one class for being absent, her mother will not talk to us about the financial problems that are arising because of the pregnancy, my husband was court ordered to keep insurance on his daughter.. however.. his daughter has been talking about dropping out of school at least a year.. now she wants to graduate..her father says great.. but i found out from the school counselor that the daughter has been talking kids for a while now.. her mother is NOT paying her part of the medical bills.. she has NEVER let the kids come for their summer visitation with their father.. the mother NEVER sent copies of medical bills or school report cards or anything.. We feel that the daughter and the father of the baby need to take responsibity for their actions.. neither one of them have a job.. WHEN IS ENOUGH.. ENOUGH?????

 

[VeronicaGia]

Your post is a rant and presents no legal questions. Please rephrase your post and ask specific questions.

 

[Bruno6301]

Hmmmmm....

Hello: This is a good site for "ranting":

www.childcustody.org There are several forums of which you can converse with others in your situation.

As Veronica said, please post a legal question, and help will arrive.

 

[Jeter]

I believe that enough officially becomes enough on feb 28, 2011.

 

[auntiebeefy]

yeah i guess i was ranting..... okay... step daughter is 18, still in high school and pregnant... she HAD to pass every class this year and next to graduate... well she had already flunked at least one class that i know of. Can we emancipate her??? her father and i think she is milking this for all its worth just so her mother can still collect child support.... i would really hate to see this child on welfare.... however... she wont listen and she doesnt want to peeve her mom off.....Can we emancipate her???? or maybe im looking for loop holes in the law..... who knows.... all i know is my husband needs help

 

[Joe Schmoe]

Hopefully your step daughter will stay in high school and get her diploma. If so, your husband should continue to help support her.

Does his court order state until age 18 or graduates from high school, whichever comes last?

It sounds as if her personal problems did not start overnight and maybe dad should have been more concerned up until this point?

I do feel bad for you all in this situation, but she is going to have a child to take care of and I think you all need to try and help her to stay in school and hopefully make a good life for herself and her child.

If the CP is required to reimburse the father for her part of the medical, maybe he needs to file in small claims court for her part?

 

[auntiebeefy]

i wish it was as easy as that.... her dad has always been there for her.... however.... his daughter for at least 2 years has been talking about quitting school... and having a baby. my husband is responsible for her to 18 or 21 if still in school.... but why is it that at the age of 18 can one vote.. serve their country..ect ect... but not be held responsible for what they CHOSE to do... she and this boy wanted a baby.... well then they need to grow up and take on the responsibilities of being parents. as for the CP... she thinks that they are her kids only and when we have had to talk to her... all we get is a very rude.. violent... abusive lecture from her.... look... i know i should stay out of this... however... the CP lost the right to yell and scream at my husband 9 years ago , when she threw him out and married her own cousin.... i am the only one that has the right to yell at my hubby....ROFL

 

[Boxcarbill]

i wish it was as easy as that.... her dad has always been there for her.... however.... his daughter for at least 2 years has been talking about quitting school... and having a baby. my husband is responsible for her to 18 or 21 if still in school.... but why is it that at the age of 18 can one vote.. serve their country..ect ect... but not be held responsible for what they CHOSE to do... she and this boy wanted a baby.... well then they need to grow up and take on the responsibilities of being parents. as for the CP... she thinks that they are her kids only and when we have had to talk to her... all we get is a very rude.. violent... abusive lecture from her.... look... i know i should stay out of this... however... the CP lost the right to yell and scream at my husband 9 years ago , when she threw him out and married her own cousin.... i am the only one that has the right to yell at my hubby....ROFL

The law does require that people "be held responsible for what they CHOSE to do," which is precisely the reason that your husband is required to pay child support until the child that he is responsible for bringing into this world reaches 18 years of age or graduates from high school whichever occurs later. The mother and the father of the expected child arer responsible for supporting their child. These are separate legal issue and parties. The fact that your husband's child is pregnant cannot be used to exonerate her father of his legal obligation to her.

[Sidebar: The ex wife marrying her cousin is irrelevant and probably legall n the state in which she lives. In fact, there are several states in which cousins can marry. As I recall, we had a President that was married to his cousin!]

 

[auntiebeefy]

the fact of the matter is that his daughter has not even tried to pass her classes in school... at this rate she will not graduate high school until she is 21... sad but its the fact. She needs to get her booty in gear and get her diploma. is there any way we can at least make her, thru the courts, bring her grades up and at least keep them at a c level??? heck her dad would be happy with a D grade as long as it gets her thru school. we have tried to talk to her mom... that doesnt work... tried buying her a car... that didnt work.... tried everything possible and nothing has worked. what can we do thru the courts that might get her to wake up and get her diploma???? if she thinks its hard now.... wait till the baby comes!!!!!!!

 

[3kidsmom]

I feel for you...

However you live in IN, unless otherwise specified in your order, CS in IN (if I am not mistaken) continues until the child is 21.

I do believe that pregnancy should be cause to terminate parental support. Don't feel too bad though, because if the baby's father is a minor... HIS parents will be responsible for support as well (for their grandchild).

 

[auntiebeefy]

yes in the state of indiana.. its 18 or 21 if still in school..... and the father of the baby is 20 and cant seem to hold a job for more than 2 weeks. I see what is coming her way... welfare.... and that is not the answer.... diploma and a good career is the way... but ya know how kids are these days... they seem to know everything.....LOL... i remember when i felt the very same way....MOM I AM SOOOO SORRY!!!!! ROFL.... i hope she sees the light before its too late... ohhh and the father of the baby says since he cant be in the doctors office with her for her doctor visits... he isnt gonna pay any support or medical bills..... i got news for him.... ohhhh yes he is .. im gonna make sure of that

 

[Boxcarbill]

the fact of the matter is that his daughter has not even tried to pass her classes in school... at this rate she will not graduate high school until she is 21... sad but its the fact. She needs to get her booty in gear and get her diploma.

Absolutely not. Why is it that people think that the courts should be a place for family counseling and discipline? The court is designed to address legal wrongs. You may not like the idea that your step daughter is not making the academic grades that you feel that she is capable of making but this does not constitutes a legal cause of action. And point of fact is that your state legislators anticipated that some wouldn't finish high school at 18 or 19 or 20 but decided 21 was the cut off point even if they did not graduate.

[Side note: The law really does not like equitable remedies and specific performance (i.e. forcing someone to do an act) is an equitable remedy. The problem with equitable remedies in an applicablel cause of action is enforcement. So even ignoring the lack of a legally recognized cause of action against your step daughter for poor grades and skipping to the remedy that you want, there is absolutely no way that any court could compel any one to perform at any given intellectual level. It just cannot be done.]