CS mod.

[mistoffolees]

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[CSO286]

Honestly, both.

I think that the CS/Custody court system has more flaws than goods.

Why? Because you have superivsed visits after a prolonged absence from the child's life? Do share. I love to know why deadbeats hate the system.
Just out of curiousity, are you current on your child support?

I would be more than glad to give my whole check every month for my son if there was a way the court would track/monitor the way the money is spent.

Absent a court order requiring an accounting--and that is RARE--the CP is under no obligation to outline how that support is spent.

Do you know what child support is? Its purpose is to reimburse the custodial parent for money he/she has already paid providing for the child. What that means is that once the bills are paid (rent/mtg, utilities, etc), and there's food in the cupboard and the school fees are taken care of, then the CP can spent the remaining money on a fishing trip, mani/pedi, lunch out with the girls or cash it all out in 5s to tuck in Bambi's g-string.

If part of my CS requires me to pay a portion of daycare, why would I not be allowed to either pay it on my own, or have proof that my CS payment is paying my portion 100% for the daycare fees?

Well, I'm guessing the childcare bill in in the CP's name, and so she is legally responsible for getting it paid. If she doesn't pay it, then the child isn't permitted at the center. If you were ordered to "pay your share" directly to the center and didn't that would adversely affect mom. Instead you're being ordered to pay mom your share. She makes sure the bill is paid.

Deal with it.

 

[LdiJ]

Okay so let's just have you pay me the $80 difference every month that I suppose is a joke to you.

I know that bills have no merits in calculating CS but I am really struggling making ends meet.

CS is and obligation I am aware of it, but realistically you and I know the mother will not use the money %100 towards our son.

The 80.00 difference is in the amount of pay that you receive monthly. 50 cents an hour is about 20.00 a week. If we are talking about one child, that would only amount to about 14 dollars of child support a MONTH. Even if the filing fees in your area are relatively low, and you represented yourself, it would take a year or even 18 months worth of savings before the filing fees were even covered...let alone for you to start seeing any savings in your pocket.

Its honestly not worth it.

 

[CSO286]

Exactly, so if I could save any money by modifying the current CS, I think I should.

Ideally I would like the order to be half and half; thus joint custody. I support him with my half when I have him and same for mother.

You wish to "save money" by shortchanging your child?

I'm curious. "Save money" for what?

 

[dolfan82]

Thanks for the responses.

Since everyone seems to be "curious" in here. I am curious to find out how many of the respondents are resentful-towards the father, mothers.

Just curious, do you all think that if these forums were answer by all males, would the answers be any different? Just a thought.

In a nutshell, been absent for around 3 years, so obviously I would not know which is my son's favorite food (right, that is my fault and I take 100% blame for it). This month will be my first payment with arrears.-

I don't agree with the court system regarding CS, too many flaws, in MY opinion. If I have the obligation and responsibility to make a CS payment every month for the well-being of my son, why would the mom not have an obligation to track (receipts) every penny that is spent from the CS payment to reassure that it's all spent on our son. If there was such a fair system as that I would not mind, not one second giving my son my full paycheck.

 

[Proserpina]

Thanks for the responses.

Since everyone seems to be "curious" in here. I am curious to find out how many of the respondents are resentful-towards the father, mothers.

Just curious, do you all think that if these forums were answer by all males, would the answers be any different? Just a thought.

In a nutshell, been absent for around 3 years, so obviously I would not know which is my son's favorite food (right, that is my fault and I take 100% blame for it). This month will be my first payment with arrears.-

I don't agree with the court system regarding CS, too many flaws, in MY opinion. If I have the obligation and responsibility to make a CS payment every month for the well-being of my son, why would the mom not have an obligation to track (receipts) every penny that is spent from the CS payment to reassure that it's all spent on our son. If there was such a fair system as that I would not mind, not one second giving my son my full paycheck.

Write your congressman and get the laws changed.

Other than that, really - quit whining about it and support your child.

The end.

(And really - We're not pro- or anti- Mom OR Dad - we're pro-CHILD)

 

[mistoffolees]

Thanks for the responses.

Since everyone seems to be "curious" in here. I am curious to find out how many of the respondents are resentful-towards the father, mothers.

Just curious, do you all think that if these forums were answer by all males, would the answers be any different? Just a thought.

In a nutshell, been absent for around 3 years, so obviously I would not know which is my son's favorite food (right, that is my fault and I take 100% blame for it). This month will be my first payment with arrears.-

That's absurd.

I'm male - and I suspect that what I'm paying in support is more than you could possibly even imagine, much less pay. I don't have any problem with it.

Nor do I think there's any rational reason to expect your ex to account for every penny you give her. Do you have to prove that you bought food when the child was with you?

Nor do I believe that the system is biased against any one gender (with the exception that the mother is probably in a better position when it comes to infants).

I don't agree with the court system regarding CS, too many flaws, in MY opinion. If I have the obligation and responsibility to make a CS payment every month for the well-being of my son, why would the mom not have an obligation to track (receipts) every penny that is spent from the CS payment to reassure that it's all spent on our son. If there was such a fair system as that I would not mind, not one second giving my son my full paycheck.

And I don't believe that for a second. You're whining about $15 a month that you think you might be overpaying, but you'd be willing to give up our entire paycheck - as long as Mom gives you a stack of receipts at the end of the month? Baloney.

 

[CJane]

I'm curious.

If I provided bills for daycare, for the amount of food my 5 year old eats (and really, he rival's stealth's daughter), for the clothes I buy him, his sports fees, his sports equipment costs, his hair cuts, dental appointments, enrollment fees for kindergarten, etc... do you think I could get an increase in child support? Because the $600/month I'm getting? Not even close to paying HALF of what he "costs" me per month.

 

[Isis1]

I'm curious.

If I provided bills for daycare, for the amount of food my 5 year old eats (and really, he rival's stealth's daughter), for the clothes I buy him, his sports fees, his sports equipment costs, his hair cuts, dental appointments, enrollment fees for kindergarten, etc... do you think I could get an increase in child support? Because the $600/month I'm getting? Not even close to paying HALF of what he "costs" me per month.

Of course!!!

 

[dolfan82]

CJane, you are amusing, ma'am.

Lots of expenses on your list are unecessary; sport's fees. But regardless I would be okay with that, as long as the mother wouldn't use CS funds to pay for her new Coach purse.

 

[Proserpina]

CJane, you are amusing, ma'am.

Lots of expenses on your list are unecessary; sport's fees. But regardless I would be okay with that, as long as the mother wouldn't use CS funds to pay for her new Coach purse.

Well, the fun part is that you don't actually have a say in that.

 

[dolfan82]

Touche.

The same way the parent (the MOM in this case, to be fair) had no say because of a flawed court system and inept judge.

YouTube - Judge Elliott gave child custody to pedophile

 

[Proserpina]

Touche.

The same way the parent (the MOM in this case, to be fair) had no say because of a flawed court system and inept judge.

YouTube - Judge Elliott gave child custody to pedophile

And this is relevant...how?


If you think such a situation is even vaguely similar to what you're complaining about, you need much more help than a message board could ever provide.

 

[dolfan82]

Logic and common sense would argue that my link was merely an example of a flawed court system and inept judges in them.

So in the most simpler way to understand, I posted the link to show the incompetencies of the court system as I regress to my previous comment, why if a parent is under an obligation to pay CS every month, by the same token why isn't the other parent under any obligation to show proof on how that money is being spent.

It's the Law . . . More flawed than fair and logical.

 

[Proserpina]

Logic and common sense would argue that my link was merely an example of a flawed court system and inept judges in them.

So in the most simpler way to understand, I posted the link to show the incompetencies of the court system as I regress to my previous comment, why if a parent is under an obligation to pay CS every month, by the same token why isn't the other parent under any obligation to show proof on how that money is being spent.

It's the Law . . . More flawed than fair and logical.

Thanks for sharing.

Feel free to write your congressperson to have the laws changed in your favor.

(But really - this thread is done. You've received accurate responses. There's no need to continue unless you actually have another legal question)