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the non agreement to leave the country charge MAY be why?
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https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?threadid=167096
stealth2
Under the Radar Member
It may not be contempt - but I don't think any of us are 100% sure what she's actually taking him to court for - and OP hasn't responded to the specific question of what the filed papers say.
But based on my experience, the court gives the NCP a great deal of latitude when it comes to visitation - and will not likely give away Mom's 2 days at the holidays.
But based on my experience, the court gives the NCP a great deal of latitude when it comes to visitation - and will not likely give away Mom's 2 days at the holidays.
tigger22472
Senior Member
I responded to his other thread. It seems to me he might be SOL anyways. Looks as if he's going to have to go to court to take the child anyways. PLUS, not only is mom missing her visitation but she's also fighting them leaving the country... PLUS that would give him 2 UNINTERRUPTED weeks with mom getting nothing. My opinion still stands with mom.
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FJ1200guy
Guest
All I know is if I make a deal, verbally, or however, with my ex, I will keep my word. This woman lied, and cheated. She agreed to swapping certain days (who cares what they are?) then after she got her days, she welched.
We can discuss whys and what fors all day long and she still lied and she still cheated.
This is not judgement, this is fact. ( don't get into the whole "maybe he's fibbing" arguement, we should stick to his post, eh?)
"No harm" in it? I guess as long as the woman gets the extra days, it's okay, right?
I guess we could go into the leaving the country issue, but that is another post. Even if it is an issue, she could still offer to give him 2 other days to make up for what she stole.
Ah well... honesty is rare these days. Glad I have it.
We can discuss whys and what fors all day long and she still lied and she still cheated.
This is not judgement, this is fact. ( don't get into the whole "maybe he's fibbing" arguement, we should stick to his post, eh?)
"No harm" in it? I guess as long as the woman gets the extra days, it's okay, right?
I guess we could go into the leaving the country issue, but that is another post. Even if it is an issue, she could still offer to give him 2 other days to make up for what she stole.
Ah well... honesty is rare these days. Glad I have it.
Holy Toledo! It's a good thing I have some chocolate to eat while I read all of this!
I haven't read all of the posts since this morning, but I will.
I found the jump to assigning blame very interesting and was (and am) interested in the dynamics that brought each of you to your conclusions that Mom was the 'bad guy'.
We don't have enough information: facts, text from the order, verbage from the contempt papers...that kind of thing...and, we don't know what the history is between these two as far as visitation goes.
What can be safely inferred is that there is an order in place that gives two specific dates or days for visitation at Thanksgiving and Christmas. That is all we can safely infer. Remember, visitation as agreed means that neither parent is to dictate or control or 'hog' visitation.
I'm still waiting for a family law attorney to jump in here and tell us IF contempt can be found to have occurred if the missed visitation dates are in the future and why.
That's all, folks...no need to get mad at me! I'm not on anyone's side in this. I don't know which parent is at fault or if it is both parents that are at fault. I never expected to get more than one or two responses and now...two pages to read! I shall get started...
EC
I haven't read all of the posts since this morning, but I will.
I found the jump to assigning blame very interesting and was (and am) interested in the dynamics that brought each of you to your conclusions that Mom was the 'bad guy'.
We don't have enough information: facts, text from the order, verbage from the contempt papers...that kind of thing...and, we don't know what the history is between these two as far as visitation goes.
What can be safely inferred is that there is an order in place that gives two specific dates or days for visitation at Thanksgiving and Christmas. That is all we can safely infer. Remember, visitation as agreed means that neither parent is to dictate or control or 'hog' visitation.
I'm still waiting for a family law attorney to jump in here and tell us IF contempt can be found to have occurred if the missed visitation dates are in the future and why.
That's all, folks...no need to get mad at me! I'm not on anyone's side in this. I don't know which parent is at fault or if it is both parents that are at fault. I never expected to get more than one or two responses and now...two pages to read! I shall get started...
EC
tigger22472
Senior Member
Ellencee, if you read the post that haiku copied.. you will see now probably what the deal is. Dad wants to take child to Canada for the full Christmas break to his wife's family and mom is fighting the visit. Since the OP hasn't returned I'm going to assume that this is PROBABLY what she's fighting in court(him taking child out of the country). In essence wether we all find it right or not... odds are he will not win. He MIGHT be allowed to take the child to Canada and he MIGHT be able to have the child the two days AFTER Christmas but odds are he will have to cut his vacation short to give her her visitation.
tigger22472
I simply must start doing a search on the thread starter before I respond. I used to be so good at doing that; I got slack!
At least we know what is going on--Dad wanted Mom to forfeit all of her Christmas visitation so the child could go to Canada with Dad and stepmom and she is supposed to accept two additional days at Thanksgiving in return for absolutely no Christmas visitation.
My bet is on Mom's winning this issue.
Great discussion thread! Very, very enjoyable!
EC
I simply must start doing a search on the thread starter before I respond. I used to be so good at doing that; I got slack!
At least we know what is going on--Dad wanted Mom to forfeit all of her Christmas visitation so the child could go to Canada with Dad and stepmom and she is supposed to accept two additional days at Thanksgiving in return for absolutely no Christmas visitation.
My bet is on Mom's winning this issue.
Great discussion thread! Very, very enjoyable!
EC
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FJ1200guy
Guest
LOL... Mom has already won!