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Bio Dad wants to Voluntarily TPR and my fiance wants to adopt - Missouri

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CSO286

Senior Member
WOW!! Have ANY OF YOU every CONSOLED A SOBBING SIX YEAR OLD WEEKLY WHEN DAD DOES CONSTANT LET DOWNS?! HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED YOUR POOR CHILD SO BUMMED AND TRYING TO SHUT HIMSELF OFF FROM US BECAUSE HE'S SADDENED?
Been there done that, I skipped buying the t-shirt and went right to a permanent body tattoo. My child (And the children of several other senior members) have gone through assorted levels of counseling to help them deal with parents who are no longer together.
To sit there and attempt to claim the corner of this market is unreasonable and incredibly unfair on your part. The things you've done and allowed your son to do (calling your boyfriend "Dad") are not cool and can ultimately result in you losing custody should the child's Legal Father get his stuff together and attempt to sue for such.



You all are RIDICULOUS! I came on here to get LEGAL advice, not your PETTY OPINIONS of what you THINK you know about my situation based off a couple paragraphs I wrote. I was TRYING to give insight on the close stability my son has with his FULL TIME household so you all could act as a "JUDGE" or tell me if you KNEW of cases where rights had been awarded out of wedlock.
You are insulting volunteers--some who are actual attorneys, some who work in the courts, in social services, in schools, and almost all who have fought and won and lost custody--but all who give time to try to make sure people understand the entire scope of the situation they are in and are making for themselves. Again, this is a group of people who don't get paid in any way. You want someone to hold your hand, say "poor Gotpinkspirit, no one understands. You really are right here and no one else could possibly understand."??? Go hire an attorney for $300/hr.

I'll have you ALL know while you're so QUICK to beat me up ... the FATHER you are hoping KARMA comes back around on and award custody to is a HS dropout, previous drug user, now homeless and WILLING to sign off rights. AND BEFORE YOU ALL GO ACCUSING ME of being judgemental - you should remember that in my text I never ONCE BASHED the father, simply stated FACTS. I think you guys have some real NERVE providing "free legal advice" when you all act no better than college groupies.

And a lot of us picked second or third rate people to co-parent with. We all admit that much. But the difference is that we accepted our mistake(s) and believe that it is still our responsibility to facilitate the relationship between our children and their other parent.

And BY THE WAY - the JUDGE in MY area awards adoption with being married six months (per his order clerk!) and the Missouri Statute states one year! So thanks but no - it is NOT two years.

And when do you intend to get married? Oh, yes, 2014. So let’s do the math. 2014 is eight months away, even if you intend to marry in January, you still need to be married for at least six months, so that puts us into july of 2014 before you can begin filings, then lets add in the required background checks and possible home studies (OP, I just did this--I KNOW the process), and then you can request a hearing date. So you're looking at having everything filed with the court by October/November 2014, and MAYBE a court date by the end of the year. I'd call that two years. Close enough.

I'm sorry, but I am totally disappointed! I could have gotten BETTER advice/pros/cons of this whole aspect out of a chatroom!! I REALLY expected better out of a forum like this.

Awww, well, please accept our heartfelt apologies that we have not lived up to your obviously very high standards.

And FURTHERMORE - I don't recall their being a MANUAL on what is right and wrong to do in situations like this. I didn't claim to be perfect nor claim to be all knowing and doing the "perfect" thing. I'm trying to do what I think is best. If any of you actually READ my text, you will notice that FATHER didn't want to take son while he's in the homeless/bounce around stage he's in right now and WE decided to do a trial run of this while all that is going on.

But you certainly belive yourself to be the authority. And as such, no one here is in a position to contradict you.

ALSO I did not say that our "playing house" was disrupted because my son stopped calling my fiance "dad". I was upset because the father was too SELFISH and not allowing his son to call people whatever HE felt comfortable with. I NEVER forced, made NOR suggested my son call my fiance dad. You all seriously need to back off on things you really don't know the entire story about. I'm so very disappointed in this.... you all should be ashamed of yourselves.

The father was selfish for "not allowing his son to call people whatever he felt comfortable with". And if the child wanted to call Dad's gf "mommy", you'd have been OK with that? I'm sure.
So, if you don't allow Junior to do whatever he'd like, does that make you selfish for imposing your will on a small child? You know, in silly instances like making junior get shots, go the doctor, eat veggies or brush his teeth?
 
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stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Ya know, pinkie... Lots of us have been there. And most of us have managed to some out with pretty well-adjusted kids.

My youngest went from being the apple of her Daddy's eye, to a nonentity. My oldest? Never really had his Dad's favor, because he was too much like me. My ex couldn't grasp " love your child more than you hate your ex" - he took all of that anger and hatred and turned it on our son. Since he was six. Funny - he's the one who still talks to his father. Maybe twice a year.

I dealt with many tears, much angst, much turmoil with them. But never once did it occur to me to allow someone else step into the role *I* chose for him. Your ex is the man you chose as your son's father. Good, bad or indifferent. You can't hide it; you can't erase it. Your son carries his father inside him. A GOOD parent would help her child embrace the good qualities of their other parent, while helping them mitigate the less savory ones. Your son can still love your b/f, when and if he becomes stepDad or adopts. But he will always have his real father inside him. It's up to you how he handles that.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
I am totally floored by the self-serving behavior of OP. I am also hoping the FATHER is able to get Legal Assistance to stop this "mother".
 

anearthw

Member
OP- if your fiance adopts the child, consider this - let's say you divorce. How would you feel about your fiance having custody of your child??? Because that is a very real possibility. It didn't work out with the last guy, you would be wise to at least consider all possibilities if it happened again.
 

Lixim

Member
You'll need a lawyer and I'm pretty sure you will have to be married in order to accomplish any of this. When I was adopted it was a matter of getting my biological father to sign the paperwork giving up rights, which only took a week or two of debated (the whole no more back child support was a big help). Once we had filled out the adoption paperwork Im pretty sure I was legally under the care of my dad after a month or so.
 

pammar94

Junior Member
Ok, ok, ok, I've had enough.

I have adopted several children legally. There is no quick path to doing it. There has to be a court hearing, the father has to be there, depending on the state he has a certain amount of time to change his mind. Adoption doesn't happen just magically the day that the parent signs his/her rights away and the fiance would have a long waiting period before adoption. If you don't get a lawyer, this will be screwed up. Mom, you just don't know what you are talking about. Your rationalizing that this is the best thing for your child will not stand up in court. A judge will make that determination. Don't try convincing us of anything because we don't count. The judge counts. Dad is down and out right now. What makes you think he won't come looking for his child at a later date, adopted or not?


Why in the world isn't future stepfather, who may or may not marry you, contented to be the stepfather.Why do you want to completely cut dad out of your daughter's life?

I think you have some legal struggles ahead and you need money to retain a lawyer and go to court. You can't do an adoption without a lawyer. You don't know how. If the court thinks you are alienating your daughter from her father, you could get into serious trouble.

Just saying...maybe get married first and have this "fiance" prove he's really up to snuff? Don't show US, show the COURTS. And see if Dad continues to want to give up his rights. My guess is he will change his mind.
 

Antigone*

Senior Member
If Karma is doing her job, when Mom and stb-Stepdad end up divorced he'll get primary custody.

And I'm sure that mom hasn't even given this possibility. To top that off, I'm sure that Super Dad hasn't thought of the possibility that this woman could get child support "for a child that even isn't his." I say that because the moment they split, that is the card he'll use.

ETA: dang I got sucked into this by the necroposter. Sorry folks.
 
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