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mrrippey

Guest
AHA said:
What a male b***h!!!! Simple math, if you have kids from an earlier marriage that you can't or won't support, why the h**l should you have more kids?????? Who do you expect to feed, shelter, clothe your kids????
You're obviously a dead beat yourself................good luck with that


Deatbeat myself, I pay more support than you make in a year jacka$$, you don't know me but you think you know alot, you're an idiot that just likes to flame on this board.

Again like I said, there are many deadbeats out ther because when a NCP pays, they get sent to the poor house more often than not. The calculations are messed up, point blank.

Be contructive for once dumba$$

Rippey
 


AHA

Senior Member
mrrippey said:
Deatbeat myself, I pay more support than you make in a year jacka$$, you don't know me but you think you know alot, you're an idiot that just likes to flame on this board.

Again like I said, there are many deadbeats out ther because when a NCP pays, they get sent to the poor house more often than not. The calculations are messed up, point blank.

Be contructive for once dumba$$

Rippey

So tell me, how much money do I make??
How do I become an idiot by stating the simple fact that if you can't afford kids you shouldn't have any?
Why should I or anyone else be constructive to somone who doesn't want to support their kids?
Answer that if you can muster up the intelligence and facts or shut up and quit whining about having to pay your kids bills.
You are obviously another mentally challenged man who couldn't keep your woman, so now you have to pay up :)
 

AHA

Senior Member
AHA said:
So tell me, how much money do I make??
How do I become an idiot by stating the simple fact that if you can't afford kids you shouldn't have any?
Why should I or anyone else be constructive to somone who doesn't want to support their kids?
Answer that if you can muster up the intelligence and facts or shut up and quit whining about having to pay your kids bills.
You are obviously another mentally challenged man who couldn't keep your woman, so now you have to pay up :)


No reply I see. What a surprise!! The question "man or a mouse?" has answered itself........... :) :)
I rest my case
 

carofl93

Member
mrrippey said:
Deatbeat myself, I pay more support than you make in a year jacka$$, you don't know me but you think you know alot, you're an idiot that just likes to flame on this board.

Again like I said, there are many deadbeats out ther because when a NCP pays, they get sent to the poor house more often than not. The calculations are messed up, point blank.

Be contructive for once dumba$$

Rippey

Hmmmm. So that's why my stepdaughter's mom won't pay her CS....a lousy $48 a week as opposed to the $535 a month my husband paid faithfully each month, even when he was denied contact and visitation. She will get sent to the poorhouse. Funny.....she hasn't worked a single day since we got custody of her child and it sure didn't look like she had missed a meal, and that new car she and her new husband were driving with the personalized plates...must be some sort of new welfare gimmick. Will someone please tell me how I can get that kind of assistance?
 
To the OP:

Think of it this way...should your H's ex get more money in child support from your H every month if she decides to have another child? And another child? And so on? Have a good feeling that the answer is no on that one.

While it isn't "fair" that the second family has to come in second, it is a reality. How many men or women out there would continue to have kids just so that their child support would be decreased? Now, it would be a stupid thing to do, but you know how some of society are.

I personally would love to have more kids, but until my H's youngest is out of high school, it just isn't happening. We can afford the one that we have & the one that he is paying child support on. It would be irresponsible for us to continue to have more kids when we can't financially take care of them.
 
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sweetielove

Guest
I agree with mrrippey,
"So if things dont work out with the first wife and he remarries, he is not entitled to have children because of the previous kids. Give me a break. CS calculations are messed up, no wonder there are so many deadbeats out there"

They are totally messed up!!!
 
i don't agree that the father can't have anymore children w/ his his second wife or next girlfirend, but they shouldn't complain when the child supoort is calculated and owed accordingly. i just think that a lot of these fathers want their cake and to eat it too, by impregnating different woman, but not reaping the consequences that come along w/ it. ;)
 

audster

Member
The sword cuts both ways, as has been posted over and over again....There are just as many moms out there whose idea of "career advancement" is to have as many kids by as many different fathers to make CS thier primary source of income.

Now I don't hold someone who is on aid because of bad luck as a bad person...aid is there to....well, aid. But it was never intended to be a lifestyle either. CS is no different. I think more judges should take this into account when setting CS. The numbers that are assessed often exceed the state guidelines, at least in Illinois. While I suppose anyone can argue that the CP has a right to not work, the NCP should not have to bear the burdon for that decision....custody of a child is very expensive, something I think alot of CP don't truly grasp.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
audster said:
custody of a child is very expensive, something I think alot of CP don't truly grasp.

Absolutely, but I do think a lot of CPs really DO grasp that. But you are 100% correct that both parents need to be responsible for supporting the child - and that's something that's said over and over on this site.
 

carofl93

Member
My family definitely knows how expensive it is to raise kids. My husband was paying on 2 kids while I was pregnant with my first and the thought of reducing the CS never entered my mind. We simply used a budget. Now we have custody of my SD so hubby is only paying on 1 kid, we are recieving no child support on my SD and we are expecting another, so we budget a little more. We don't "need" the CS money from SD's mother for day to day life, but it would be nice to have it for the extras that we can't afford for my SD to do, like dance or horseback riding lessons or college when she gets older.
 

AHA

Senior Member
This seems to be the place where the dumb and dumber hang out!!!! WE HAVE NOT SAID THAT SOMEONE CAN'T HAVE MORE CHILDREN AFTER FAILING THE FIRST MARRIAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE SAYING THAT IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO FEED AND CLOTHE AND SHELTER THOSE FIRST KIDS, THINK AGAIN BEFORE HAVING MORE ONES TO ADD TO THE BILLS. How hard is that to grasp?I know having kids is a selfish act, you do it because YOU want them, the kids aren't asking to be born. But to try and put the selfishness away until you can afford them a good life and good possibilities should be your first gift to an unborn.
 

carofl93

Member
In my book there is nothing selfish about having children unless you are one of the aforementioned women who get pregnant simply to live off of the CS and other benefits. We (my husband and myself) can afford all of our children. If you want to say someone is selfish, how about the deadbeat loser mother who hasn't paid a dime in CS, not to mention the fact that she has made zero attempts at contacting her daughter in over a year? I'd say that's pretty damn selfish considering she has no other children and her husband is away most of the year in the Navy.
 

AHA

Senior Member
No one forces you to have a kid, so in that sense it is selfish, because you are getting something YOU want. Same thing with suicide, YOU make the choice based on what YOU want, no one else.
 

nextwife

Senior Member
carofl93 said:
In my book there is nothing selfish about having children

Maybe, but sometimes it's selfish to rush to have children before we are either ready willing or able. Aren't our kids better off being born to us a bit later in our lives, after we are emotionally matured and financially stable? Is it selfish to defer childmaking until the parents are in a stable, tested relationship, and each capable of earning a sustainable living? In an environment in which their future child is more likely to thrive? Is it selfish to take steps to prevent a pregnancy if we are not with a person who would be a good parenting partner? And instead create that child a few years down the road when we have a better, more compatable partner?

And, as an adoption advocate, I want to place a plug for, rather than HAVING more after the first one or two, adopting a child ALREADY born into the world instead of having more.
 

carofl93

Member
I don't see myself as selfish. When I married my husband, I had known him for 8 years as a friend. I knew what kind of person he was and still is. I got a taste of motherhood through my stepchildren and I got to see more of what sort of man my husband is. Our son was a total surprise, but was very much wanted. We were emotionally ready for a child together as well as being financially prepared. My husband is active duty Air Force and one of the perks is medical and dental insurance. Not long before our son was born, we got custody of my stepdaughter, so I got 2 kids almost right on top of each other. I am currently expecting our second and last child together. This baby was planned. We sat down as a family and discussed the ways our lives would change if we decided to bring another life into the house. My husband and I also decided that 3 kids will be enough because no one knows what the future may bring and the last thing we want is to make any of them suffer. No one twisted my arm to conceive our kids. But, AHA, it was not just MY choice...my husband helped to make our kids so it was a joint decision, unlike my husband's ex-wife who took it upon her self to abandon her child.
And nextwife, I totally agree with you on the adoption issue. My mother was adopted. My stepson was adopted by my husband because his birth father showed no interest. And, we have been discussing TPR with step-parent adoption regarding my stepdaughter, who I think of as my own child. If the TPR goes through, great...if not, no worries because I will always claim this child as my own because I am the one who is here for her.

Carol
 

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