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ecmst12

Senior Member
And yet, you still need a permit to own and/or carry a firearm. I am not at all uncomfortable with requiring those who want a gun to be able to demonstrate that they can operate, store, and care for one in a safe manner.
 


swalsh411

Senior Member
And yet, you still need a permit to own and/or carry a firearm. I am not at all uncomfortable with requiring those who want a gun to be able to demonstrate that they can operate, store, and care for one in a safe manner.

Once again Sherlock, bad information. You only need a "gun license" in a handful of States, and it is perfectly legal in many others to carry without one. For example, open carry it legal in VA, PA, KY, VT, MN, AK (and others) with no permit, and there are at least a half dozen states where concealed carry requires no permit. I think you really ought to do your homework and learn the facts before making statements on gun issues.
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
Which also scares the crap out of me - I don't agree that anyone should be able to own a gun without a permit. Just my personal feelings. You don't have to agree, I won't be offended. I don't think guns should be illegal and I think the "assault weapons ban" is idiotic, but that doesn't mean I don't think a few more regulations on gun ownership would lead to a safer population.
 

OHRoadwarrior

Senior Member
Which also scares the crap out of me - I don't agree that anyone should be able to own a gun without a permit. Just my personal feelings. You don't have to agree, I won't be offended. I don't think guns should be illegal and I think the "assault weapons ban" is idiotic, but that doesn't mean I don't think a few more regulations on gun ownership would lead to a safer population.

History has proven shooting the bad guys, prevents reoccurring crime and their procreating.
 

ecmst12

Senior Member
And encouraging safety and responsibility decreases the incidence of accidental shootings where innocent people get injured or killed.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. You show a gun respect by cleaning it after use.

I'm not saying this as a statement on the gun control issue -

However -

Safe and responsible gun ownership follows exactly what was said above. When one owns a gun, one must realize they the PERSON handling the gun is responsible for how it is used. And, proper maintenance of a firearm (including cleaning after use) is a key part of safe operation of the gun.
 

Dillon

Senior Member
Bad analogy for two reasons. First, one does not need to pass any sort of test to merely own a car (or drive on private property). You need to pass the test if you wish to drive the car on public roads (why would you want to do that? . Secondly, owning a car is not a right explicitly guaranteed in the Constitution.

owning a car and arms are private property fundamental rights protected by the constitution. arms and cars are not dangerous to anyone when moved properly.

( I move my private property on the common easement designed for its movement by right to access my other private property ).


In the United States, the Ninth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects against federal infringement of unenumerated rights.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The Supreme Court of the United States has also interpreted the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to protect against state infringement of certain unenumerated rights including, among others, the right to send one's children to private school and the right to marital privacy. rights come from God not government.
 
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Proserpina

Senior Member
owning a car and arms are private property fundamental rights protected by the constitution. arms and cars are not dangerous to anyone when moved properly.

( I move my private property on the common easement designed for its movement by right to access my other private property ).


In the United States, the Ninth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects against federal infringement of unenumerated rights.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The Supreme Court of the United States has also interpreted the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to protect against state infringement of certain unenumerated rights including, among others, the right to send one's children to private school and the right to marital privacy. rights come from God not government.

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