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LdiJ

Senior Member
Exactly! Which is why I said he's confusing the two parties. Because it's the landlord that provides the lease, not the property management.

Ok, I think that we need some clarification here.

There are two kinds of management companies. There is a management company that overseas a condo building. The operate very much like an HOA board and therefore they can often overrule a individual condo owner who is acting as a landlord, depending on the CC&Rs for the condo building.

Then there is another kind of management company that the landlord hires to manage the condo/home on his behalf. That kind of management company cannot overrule the landlord if the landlord is insistent upon wanting something to happen.

My original response was based on the second kind of management company. If its the first kind of management company then the second part of my response is less useful.
 


Applez

Member
It sounds like your family member has a landlord (owner) that is governed by the by-laws of an HOA (homeowners association). If this is the case, the owner or your family member needs to read the by-laws to see if it addresses the issue of felons.

Thanks, reenzz. This is the kind of info I need. I'll see if I can track down that by-laws.
 

Applez

Member
Ok, I think that we need some clarification here.

There are two kinds of management companies. There is a management company that overseas a condo building. The operate very much like an HOA board and therefore they can often overrule a individual condo owner who is acting as a landlord, depending on the CC&Rs for the condo building.

Then there is another kind of management company that the landlord hires to manage the condo/home on his behalf. That kind of management company cannot overrule the landlord if the landlord is insistent upon wanting something to happen.

My original response was based on the second kind of management company. If its the first kind of management company then the second part of my response is less useful.

Definitely the first kind. He didn't hire them - they oversee several units of a big, 12-unit apartment building.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Well yes, of course, but the point of this thread was to help provide him with information that would allow him to have that conversation with some level of knowledge on this matter.

The problem with that is that you, who know NOTHING of the matter, have been asking questions of random strangers on the internet and not even comprehending the replies that you've received. Then, to further compound the matter, your intention is to go and "teach" your relative about this matter about which you know nothing.

Your friend would be better off researching this matter on his own. That way, HE will have a better idea of what questions to ask, as opposed to simply being told what questions you, an unknowledgeable (on the matter) person, think he should ask.
 

Applez

Member
Zigner, the only problem here is you, my friend. I felt your negative energy through my screen from your very first post. You made an incorrect observation and then tried to justify your statement by backpedaling for a country mile. Show me a statement anyone here has made that I have not comprehended. It doesn't exist. You're just mad because, well...I don't know. Why are you mad? Is it because you were wrong or are you just naturally this way? When you finally said, "But it's quite possible that the management company has to approve of the lease", even though it was embarrassingly and painfully obvious that that's NOT what LdiJ meant, I said nothing and even agreed with your statement, just to let you save face and move on.

Now all of a sudden you lose your grip and seem to have a problem with a human being who speaks and understands fluent English, looking into a matter for another human being who does not? Do you even consider for a moment that there are reasons why people do what they do? Has it crossed your mind at any point in time that the person either doesn't speak English, doesn't understand the laws, doesn't have or even know how to use the internet? No, of course that didn't cross your mind. Otherwise you wouldn't have said what you said. So many variables and you see only one. Convinced of your own worldview, you attack!

What I'm trying to do here is help a family member out. If this is an objective evil in your world, then please take your views elsewhere. I don't need (or want) your help.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Zigner, the only problem here is you, my friend. I felt your negative energy through my screen from your very first post. You made an incorrect observation and then tried to justify your statement by backpedaling for a country mile. Show me a statement anyone here has made that I have not comprehended. It doesn't exist. You're just mad because, well...I don't know. Why are you mad? Is it because you were wrong or are you just naturally this way? When you finally said, "But it's quite possible that the management company has to approve of the lease", even though it was embarrassingly and painfully obvious that that's NOT what LdiJ meant, I said nothing and even agreed with your statement, just to let you save face and move on.

Now all of a sudden you lose your grip and seem to have a problem with a human being who speaks and understands fluent English, looking into a matter for another human being who does not? Do you even consider for a moment that there are reasons why people do what they do? Has it crossed your mind at any point in time that the person either doesn't speak English, doesn't understand the laws, doesn't have or even know how to use the internet? No, of course that didn't cross your mind. Otherwise you wouldn't have said what you said. So many variables and you see only one. Convinced of your own worldview, you attack!

What I'm trying to do here is help a family member out. If this is an objective evil in your world, then please take your views elsewhere. I don't need (or want) your help.

Let me dumb it down for you. Did you ever play "telephone" as a kid? When you start, you have no idea what the message is (ie: no knowledge). When you pass the message on, you change it some, which makes it possibly useless or, worse yet, harmful.

MYOB - it's best for all involved.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Zigner, the only problem here is you, my friend. I felt your negative energy through my screen from your very first post. You made an incorrect observation and then tried to justify your statement by backpedaling for a country mile. Show me a statement anyone here has made that I have not comprehended. It doesn't exist. You're just mad because, well...I don't know. Why are you mad? Is it because you were wrong or are you just naturally this way? When you finally said, "But it's quite possible that the management company has to approve of the lease", even though it was embarrassingly and painfully obvious that that's NOT what LdiJ meant, I said nothing and even agreed with your statement, just to let you save face and move on.

Now all of a sudden you lose your grip and seem to have a problem with a human being who speaks and understands fluent English, looking into a matter for another human being who does not? Do you even consider for a moment that there are reasons why people do what they do? Has it crossed your mind at any point in time that the person either doesn't speak English, doesn't understand the laws, doesn't have or even know how to use the internet? No, of course that didn't cross your mind. Otherwise you wouldn't have said what you said. So many variables and you see only one. Convinced of your own worldview, you attack!

What I'm trying to do here is help a family member out. If this is an objective evil in your world, then please take your views elsewhere. I don't need (or want) your help.

Now that you have explained that its the kind of management company that oversees a condo building then it is possible that they do have to approve the lease. Not the existing lease, because nobody can approve/disapprove a lease that is already in existence, but its possible that they have the authority to approve/disapprove of a renewal or continuance past the original lease period. It all depends on what the CC&Rs say about the power that they have.

So, at this point what you really need to do (or your relative really needs to do) is read the CC&Rs to determine what power the management company actually has.
 

Applez

Member
Let me dumb it down for you. Did you ever play "telephone" as a kid? When you start, you have no idea what the message is (ie: no knowledge). When you pass the message on, you change it some, which makes it possibly useless or, worse yet, harmful.

MYOB - it's best for all involved.

Dude, what part of they don't understand English don't you understand? What use is a phone to someone who is unable to HEAR?
 

Applez

Member
Now that you have explained that its the kind of management company that oversees a condo building then it is possible that they do have to approve the lease. Not the existing lease, because nobody can approve/disapprove a lease that is already in existence, but its possible that they have the authority to approve/disapprove of a renewal or continuance past the original lease period. It all depends on what the CC&Rs say about the power that they have.

So, at this point what you really need to do (or your relative really needs to do) is read the CC&Rs to determine what power the management company actually has.

Thank you, LdiJ, for your help. We'll do just that.
 

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