Ga Cse

[nagol818]

Well if I put a little pressure on the new Mrs X and get my money what is it to YOU?

With your attitude she'll probably cop her own and not give it to you.

 

[Gracie3787]

Well if I put a little pressure on the new Mrs X and get my money what is it to YOU?

1. I am the "new" (7 yrs) wife of a NCP who owed arrears. My husband's ex is just like you- greedy and vindictive, she tried to "put pressure" on ME: tried to claim that she could take MY home and MY income and MY car, etc. She was furious when she learned that first, I had used my late husband's life insurance benefits to purchase said home, car. etc. BEFORE I had even met her ex (my now husband) and second, that she couldn't touch anything of mine. When that didn't work, she tried a new tactic, she wrote and mailed a stalking threat (she's a police officer), she was shocked when I didn't roll over and die- I fought back and filed for a domestic violence injunction. Because she refused to obey 3 legally served subpoenas for documents that my husband had served on her, I learned how to use a computer, got the documents thru open records laws. My husband and I learned that she had committed bankruptcy fraud and fraudulently lived in public housing. She finally left me alone after my husband and I reported her to the proper authorities for her frauds. She finally (after 3 1/2 years) got it through her thick head that she could not bully me.

2. You are right about one thing, it won't affect me at all if you get money from his wife by "putting pressure" on her. I'm just simply pointing out that his wife just might be like me- willing to fight back, and if she is- look out, because us "new wives" don't give up very easily.

I'm done with you, the old saying fits you very well, we (the posters) can lead a horse (you) to water (the truth), but we can't make it drink (listen, believe or change for the better).

 

[WHWT]

child support questions

Well the new Mrs. X has called my daughter and informed her that her money is not our money but the fact that she called said she is worried. I found out that the money she got bought their home and land. She put it in my ex's name as well as her own. Too bad she was so stupid.

Like I have said all along "I want my money" I don't care how the ex gets it to me. PERIOD

 

[father22]

I know that in pa you cant get anything from a property that is jointly owned for CS. Would that be the case too in GA too i wonder? i bought my house before i was married and i put it in my moms name too, just in case of something like this. Though Ive never been in arrears myself. Anyone know?

 

[nextwife]

It always amazes me. The SAME women who want stepmoms to have financial responsibilty for THEIR kids also scream and yell if stepmom wants any involvement with those same kids ("How dare she talk to their school!" etc.) Of course, this mom ONLY wanted dad to be dad financially, but have no say in spending time with them, whether they stayed in school, etc. Being dad should be a PACKAGE - if you want him to be dad financially, you need to recognize that he had all other rights to be a parent, which includes saying where they spend certain days.

If you are so adamant that YOUR hubby "is their dad", then why are you expecting a person you claim is NOT entitled to be treated as dad to be dad financially? Seems hypocritical.

 

[haiku]

my personal opinion is if you don't want the fathers emotional input in thier childrens lives, then you really don't need or have a right to thier financial input either, obviously.

the only one who is the jerk in this case is you! Denied your ex his right to be a father, and then was stupid enough to refuse a GENEROUS settlement offer, just because he refused to give up his parental rights (to such a great 'new' daddy, who couldn't keep the kids in school or thier pants zipped....)......

So now you get to wait possibly forever for 30,000 dollars....

Which is smarter? 20,000 in your pocket and walk away happy, and able to close that chapter of your life, or....a peice of paper saying someone owes you 30,000, while you sit and spin and make everyone miserable for the rest of your life?

 

[nextwife]

Any accountant/collections attorney would advise their client to consider the "time value" of money. The $20,000 INVESTED wisely during that time following your refusal would likely have yielded in excess of a 12% return. You figure out what that would be today, compounded.

 

[WHWT]

child support questions

Well the ex's wife is not the mother of my children and my husband has been here and provided for my kids and his two. I probably should of took the $20,000 but we still had a year to go with one minor child so I said pay the $20,000 and give up parental rights or pay $20,000 and continue paying. His attorney said no deal. My ex was just mad because the kids did not want to see him any more and did not want anything to do with his new bride.

Don't worry I will get my money.

 

[WHWT]

Any accountant/collections attorney would advise their client to consider the "time value" of money. The $20,000 INVESTED wisely during that time following your refusal would likely have yielded in excess of a 12% return. You figure out what that would be today, compounded.

He says he does not have the money any more.

 

[WHWT]

child support questions

my personal opinion is if you don't want the fathers emotional input in thier childrens lives, then you really don't need or have a right to thier financial input either, obviously.

the only one who is the jerk in this case is you! Denied your ex his right to be a father, and then was stupid enough to refuse a GENEROUS settlement offer, just because he refused to give up his parental rights (to such a great 'new' daddy, who couldn't keep the kids in school or thier pants zipped....)......

So now you get to wait possibly forever for 30,000 dollars....

Which is smarter? 20,000 in your pocket and walk away happy, and able to close that chapter of your life, or....a peice of paper saying someone owes you 30,000, while you sit and spin and make everyone miserable for the rest of your life?

We live to far away but these kids are his financial responsiblity. They would be if we were still together.

 

[joan marie]

I had a boss in NJ that was 10's of thousand in arrearage. He paid that arrearage till the debt was paid. The child was 26 by the time the arrearage was repaid. NJ state, same dept that had collected the CS, collected and documented the arrearage till it was paid in full.

joan marie*

 

[WHWT]

child support questions

Look, I can not help it that my husband got a good paying job in GA and moved me and the kids away from the ex. That is his problem not mine. Most of you posting on this board are posting for the same reason I am "YOU want some money". The rest of you are crying because you don't want to pay or your current wife don't like anything about your ex wife, your kids and money leaving her house to go to the ex wife. Wa Wa Wa

 

[username43]

What about one of the child support collection agencies? I don't know anyone who has used one or if using one cancels out the CSE agency,but look in to this. do the google search on this too. I'm pretty sure they collect a fee from the settlement,but this might be a way. Another thought is to hire an attorney to write a letter to the ex requesting full payment of arrears.this might get some kind of response and be less than a full retention of one. Again I really don't know about this either I am just brain storming. As far as rejecting the $20000,well the arrears really isn't open for negotiation. It is money borrowed with interest or stolen from WHWT kids through the years and should be repaid with interest.PERIOD If he could have settled with 20000 which is alot of money , I would have suspected he could have paid the $30000 as well. Good grief he could get a loan and pay the bank instead of cse and the mother. I think he is holding out too!

 

[nextwife]

What about one of the child support collection agencies? I don't know anyone who has used one or if using one cancels out the CSE agency,but look in to this. do the google search on this too. I'm pretty sure they collect a fee from the settlement,but this might be a way. Another thought is to hire an attorney to write a letter to the ex requesting full payment of arrears.this might get some kind of response and be less than a full retention of one. Again I really don't know about this either I am just brain storming. As far as rejecting the $20000,well the arrears really isn't open for negotiation. It is money borrowed with interest or stolen from WHWT kids through the years and should be repaid with interest.PERIOD If he could have settled with 20000 which is alot of money , I would have suspected he could have paid the $30000 as well. Good grief he could get a loan and pay the bank instead of cse and the mother. I think he is holding out too!

And how do you know that the $20,000 wasn't offered by his wife from her own assets - and that $20,000 was ALL she was willing to pay? No, it's not required to negotiate, but if it was HER money, and not her debt, she can place any conditions she wishes on it's disbursement, as she has no obligation to pay anything.

Some of us WORK in business endeavors in which creditors and debtors come to agreements/settlements all the time. And yes, those creditors are also owed their debt in full, but they make thoughtful and well-informed decisions, weighing the benefit of having X dollars now to invest vs. the POTENTIAL of collecting the full debt in the future. Even with interest accruing on the debt, most creditors would rather take a settlement, especially if it's at a ratio of 66.66 cents on the dollar. The old "bird in the hand" philosophy.

As to paying OFF BY OBTAINING a loan, the reporting of CS debts to credit reporting agencies deminishes borrowing power. If he has no assets, WHAT collateral will a creditor be offered to secure the loan? Do you actually believe a creditor will underwrite a $20,00 or $30,000 UNSECURED loan for someone with no assets?

Seems our poster is rather gleeful about moving his kids away to further her new husband's career and then further impacting his rights under the CO by failing to enforce the visitation order so he'd get the limited visitation he had left after the move. She, too, is in contempt.

 

[nagol818]

And how do you know that the $20,000 wasn't offered by his wife from her own assets - and that $20,000 was ALL she was willing to pay? No, it's not required to negotiate, but if it was HER money, and not her debt, she can place any conditions she wishes on it's disbursement, as she has no obligation to pay anything.

Some of us WORK in business endeavors in which creditors and debtors come to agreements/settlements all the time. And yes, those creditors are also owed their debt in full, but they make thoughtful and well-informed decisions, weighing the benefit of having X dollars now to invest vs. the POTENTIAL of collecting the full debt in the future. Even with interest accruing on the debt, most creditors would rather take a settlement, especially if it's at a ratio of 66.66 cents on the dollar. The old "bird in the hand" philosophy.

As to paying OFF BY OBTAINING a loan, the reporting of CS debts to credit reporting agencies deminishes borrowing power. If he has no assets, WHAT collateral will a creditor be offered to secure the loan? Do you actually believe a creditor will underwrite a $20,00 or $30,000 UNSECURED loan for someone with no assets?

Seems our poster is rather gleeful about moving his kids away to further her new husband's career and then further impacting his rights under the CO by failing to enforce the visitation order so he'd get the limited visitation he had left after the move. She, too, is in contempt.

When my daughter was born I had no insurance. She was born with pneumonia and stayed in NICU for 8 days. The bill racked up to $50,000. We made a deal with the hospital...I would give them $10,000 cash within 5 days and the rest of the debt would be exonerated. The hospital was quite happy with this deal. WOW!...They were "losing" $40,000 or were they???