Guilty of refusing to test in ohio

[Veronica1228]

Why?

Why? To pi$$ you off, naturally. That's reason enough for me.

 

[fagettaboutit]

Why? To pi$$ you off, naturally. That's reason enough for me.

Naturally. I couldn't expect more from someone like you now could I?

 

[Veronica1228]

Naturally. I couldn't expect more from someone like you now could I?

Nope. Nor does someone like you deserve more from someone like me.

 

[fagettaboutit]

Nope. Nor does someone like you deserve more from someone like me.

Honey, you have no substance to offer here - not legal, not compassion (of course ironically maybe for your friend's drunk husband) - just pure anger. No need to hate everyone because YOU can't drink, sweety.

 

[Veronica1228]

Honey, you have no substance to offer here - not legal, not compassion (of course ironically maybe for your friend's drunk husband) - just pure anger. No need to hate everyone because YOU can't drink, sweety.

I still don't get where you assume that I have taken sides on AHA's issue. I haven't. However, let me just say this:

I see no reason to argue DUI issues with you any longer. At this point and time the laws are what they are and unlike you, I agree with them. I don't have to argue or debate because I don't want to change them. You do. However, you must realize that arguing the point in this venue is not going to change them either.

I read the link to the propaganda that your friend put out there. I don't agree with the ramblings of one single lawyer in California. I agree with Carl that it is highly unlikely that the laws will be relaxed any time soon. I'm glad. Again, there is no reason for me to argue. I don't want to make any changes.

So go ahead and use any kind of condescending language you want with me. It is not going to change the current DUI laws. This entire debate really just amuses me, as do you. If you are allowing me to get under your skin, that is your issue. It's what I live for.

By the way, I live in Milwaukee. The drinking capitol of the country. To assume that I don't drink is ludicrous. I just don't drive afterwards. It is really not that difficult to obey laws. Not difficult at all.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

NO!!!!!! It's NOT illegal to "Drink and Drive".

So in your insane brain, you think drinking a beer while driving is legal? How stupid are you?

 

[fagettaboutit]

I still don't get where you assume that I have taken sides on AHA's issue. I haven't.

Oh please, Veronica. Silence is taking a side too. You were unable or unwilling to express your thoughts.

This entire debate really just amuses me, as do you. If you are allowing me to get under your skin, that is your issue. It's what I live for.

Why you live for something like that is beyond me but Veronica, likewise, you amuse me too. One DUI lawyer? No, there many, many other DUI lawyers - and lawyers in general - that echo that one DUI lawyer's sentiment. Who better than a DUI lawyer that understands DUI laws?? Then there's a lot of lawyers who like the current state of the DUI laws because it offers them a great deal of financial security.

But I don't think you care, because to see the truth would change everything you think you stand for. You think you like those laws because you don't understand those very laws could affect you or someone you love even after they didn't drink and drive. The fact that it appears you can accept innocent people being arrested for DUI because it helps the overall cause, is scary. It's not about drunk drivers anymore, now it's about people who drive within 24 hours of taking a perfectly legal drug. Do you know what drugs they are? There are hundreds of them that can cause someone to get a DUI. Yet if you don't know what they all are, how do expect everyone else to know? Doctors don't tell patients. In fact my doctor thinks I'm crazy because I mentioned my prescription as being possibly illegal to drive after taking. But yet it falls under the "illegal to drive" guidelines. I know those guidelines, do you? Do you know how to obey those laws? Does your family - your friends?

You can turn your nose up at me for wanting to PREVENT people from getting accused of DUI. You can think my need to stop people from getting into the situation of a DUI is a waste of time. But it just may be someone you love one day facing the crime of DUI when they didn't actually drink or know the perfectly legal drug they're taking caused them to considered DUI.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Oh please, Veronica. Silence is taking a side too. You were unable or unwilling to express your thoughts.



Why you live for something like that is beyond me but Veronica, likewise, you amuse me too. One DUI lawyer? No, there many, many other DUI lawyers - and lawyers in general - that echo that one DUI lawyer's sentiment. Who better than a DUI lawyer that understands DUI laws?? Then there's a lot of lawyers who like the current state of the DUI laws because it offers them a great deal of financial security.

But I don't think you care, because to see the truth would change everything you think you stand for. You think you like those laws because you don't understand those very laws could affect you or someone you love even after they didn't drink and drive. The fact that it appears you can accept innocent people being arrested for DUI because it helps the overall cause, is scary. It's not about drunk drivers anymore, now it's about people who drive within 24 hours of taking a perfectly legal drug. Do you know what drugs they are? There are hundreds of them that can cause someone to get a DUI. Yet if you don't know what they all are, how do expect everyone else to know? Doctors don't tell patients. In fact my doctor thinks I'm crazy because I mentioned my prescription as being possibly illegal to drive after taking. But yet it falls under the "illegal to drive" guidelines. I know those guidelines, do you? Do you know how to obey those laws? Does your family - your friends?

You can turn your nose up at me for wanting to PREVENT people from getting accused of DUI. You can think my need to stop people from getting into the situation of a DUI is a waste of time. But it just may be someone you love one day facing the crime of DUI when they didn't actually drink or know the perfectly legal drug they're taking caused them to considered DUI.

I am always wondering reading your posts, if you even know how you are embarrassing yourself. My conclusion, is that you do not see it...............nor do you care.

(QUOTE)In fact my doctor thinks I'm crazy (QUOTE)

I agree with V. Why debate this with you or Ms. Pruitt? Your not changing anyones minds here,...................so why continue here?

You and Ms. Pruitt need a normal life, if you both can figure out what that is.

 

[fagettaboutit]

PARIDISE you have a hard time dealing with the converstation. You don't even understand DUI laws, so you ramble only with insults.

If you're so smart, which legal drugs make it illegal to drive before waiting at least 24 hours? Give just 20 brands. While you're at it, which ones will give a false-positive to illegal drugs. Wait, that may be too complicated for you. How about just naming the food product that will give a false-posititive for codeine on all drug tests?

This should be interesting!

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

The fact that it appears you can accept innocent people being arrested for DUI because it helps the overall cause, is scary. It's not about drunk drivers anymore, now it's about people who drive within 24 hours of taking a perfectly legal drug. Do you know what drugs they are? There are hundreds of them that can cause someone to get a DUI. Yet if you don't know what they all are, how do expect everyone else to know? Doctors don't tell patients. Useless response. ANY medication I get comes with instructions on what you can do, and what not.[/I]Maybe you should get a different doctor, as this is not normal practice................I also request proof of that statement from you.




I know those guidelines, do you? Stupid question, it is a common sense answer.


Do you know how to obey those laws? Does your family - your friends?YES!!!!!!!!!! MOST DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can turn your nose up at me for wanting to PREVENT people from getting accused of DUI. If they deserve it, then they get it. Preventing it would be to easy for you to understand. It would mean not driving while out of our freaking mind and killing a family in their mini van. This is really an easy concept.


You can think my need to stop people from getting into the situation of a DUI is a waste of time. But it just may be someone you love one day facing the crime of DUI when they didn't actually drink or know the perfectly legal drug they're taking caused them to considered DUI. Or, they could be the innocent victims that died at the hands of the very person you speak of?

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

PARIDISE you have a hard time dealing with the converstation. No, I'm keeping up rather well.


You don't even understand DUI laws, so you ramble only with insults. I understand DUI laws, don't get lost ok?

If you're so smart, which legal drugs make it illegal to drive before waiting at least 24 hours? Give just 20 brands. Why would I waste my time doing that?

While you're at it, which ones will give a false-positive to illegal drugs. Wait, that may be too complicated for you. DARN!!!!!! I thought I had an "A" in concepts.


How about just naming the food product that will give a false-posititive for codeine on all drug tests? That is a rather boring task, don't you think?

This should be interesting! Only if you have enough booze.

 

[john123456]

Veronica and Paridise:

fagettaboutit remains, and always has been, a one trick pony.

 

[RIDL_Prez]

So in your insane brain, you think drinking a beer while driving is legal? How stupid are you?

Oh, so in your insane brain your now changing the conversation from driving after drinking to drinking WHILE driving? And by the way, in some states it IS still legal to drink WHILE driving.

 

[RIDL_Prez]

I agree with V. Why debate this with you or Ms. Pruitt? Your not changing anyones minds here,...................so why continue here?

And you're not changing our minds. So I guess you should go away. What weak watery arguments you give.

 

[fagettaboutit]

Just as I suspected, PARIDISE, you don't even know the drugs that could cause you to be considered DUI. You can't even name the one food item that will always test positive for codeine. Which by the way is a highly illegal drug to be on while driving.

If they deserve it, then they get it. Preventing it would be to easy for you to understand. It would mean not driving while out of our freaking mind and killing a family in their mini van. This is really an easy concept.

Oh please. You still think one needs to be driving while "freaking" out of their mind in order to get a DUI. You probably didn't know that most drugs can stay in your system for up to 60 hours. So even if you haven't taken the drug for several days, you'll test like you took it hours ago.

Useless response. ANY medication I get comes with instructions on what you can do, and what not.[/I]Maybe you should get a different doctor, as this is not normal practice

Oh so your doctor sits down with you and explains which prescribed drugs could cause you to be DUI? What does your doctor tell you about the OTC drugs?

I also request proof of that statement from you

Oh please! LOL There's not enough proof in this world for your little mind to believe. Hell you still believe a person must out of their "freaking" mind while driving in order to get a DUI.