Help, Rape In School!!!!!!!!!

[rascal1]

Okay, that's making more sense. So they have proof that your daughter was assaulted. What they apparently don't have is corroborating proof that it is the boys she says did it. And, unfortunately, with your daughter's apparent disability, they don't feel comfortable going forward and putting her through the stress of testifying knowing that the boys' lawyers are basically going to challenge her ability to identify anyone as a result. And knowing that it will likely be enough for the boys to be acquited.

But they have the survalance tape in hallway placing them there and teaher leaving them alone

 

[rascal1]

And, unfortunately, with your daughter's apparent disability, QUOTE]

she is mind retardation. this is terring her up knowing they are out there nad nothing is being done. we have had threats and the police don't do anything. just last thursday 2 cars came to our house 6 times yelling hxxxxx at 3am and shining lights on our house the police caught them and they told them they were just looking for a dog the cop let them go and told them to go home. while police was still at our house here came them again and the cop went after them and still did nothing. what now, now that the case is being dropped.

They can not go unpunished. we do not want that.

 

[stealth2]

But does the surveillance tape show the actual rape? If not, it's relatively useless. The boys could have left and someone else come in. I realize that you believe your daughter, and I don't at all dispute what she's told you. But you have to understand that the boys' lawyers are going to use these arguments.

(I'm making this deliberately offensive to point out what they are likely to say - this is not what *I* personally think.)

"Your Honor, there is no evidence that Boys A & B perpetrated this horrific act. They admit that they were left in the presence of this young lady, who.... we would like to point out... is of limited mental capacity - but when they left the vicinity shown in the tape, she had not been assaulted. Someone else entered the area and brutalized this girl. Unfortunately, due to her diminished mental capacity, she has blocked those memories and focused on our clients. With her mental condition, she is not a credible witness and should not be considered as such."

No matter how high-functioning she is - they're going to make her out as totally feeble-minded. And I bet the DA is not convinced that s/he is going to be able to prove them wrong.

 

[rascal1]

But does the surveillance tape show the actual rape? If not, it's relatively useless. The boys could have left and someone else come in. I realize that you believe your daughter, and I don't at all dispute what she's told you. But you have to understand that the boys' lawyers are going to use these arguments.

so your saying they go free to grow up and do this again hurting someone even worse. how can the law be that way. they can't they messed her up so bad. they can't go unpunished. are you saying there is nothing we can do to make sure they are rightly punished and show them this is wrong.

 

[stealth2]

All I'm saying is that the DA is unlikely to prosecute a case they don't feel they can win. Which means yes, they could go free. You could talk to them to see if they'd try to come to a plea agreement.

Unfortunately, the law requires PROOF that the accused actually did it. It doesn't sound like there's DNA evidence. What it sounds like is there's evidence that your daughter was assaulted, that these boys were alone with her for some period of time, but nothing except her word that they are the ones who assaulted her. It would be tough even if your daughter was 100% mentally.

I wish there was something better to tell you. Now that you've been able to provide some further info, hopefully one of the lawyers may be able to give you better news.

 

[rascal1]

It doesn't sound like there's DNA evidence.

there has to be dna, but i do not think they check them right after arresting them. the blood

not to the fact they intered both areas ripping her (i didn't want to say that it makes me upset)

but also such shabby way it was done. the delay up to 11 hours before forensic started, the school sending her to bathroom clean up I am not what should i say i am not like officer but i know you do not wipe or clean or anything i believe there has to be dna and the delay

 

[stealth2]

There may not be DNA if they used condoms. The blood may only be hers. I don't know. I don't think you know, either.

One thing I WOULD suggest however, is that you not ignore your own mental health in this. As much as your daughter needs counseling - so do you. This is a terrible thing for anyone to go through, including the victim's parents. Please don't ignore your own needs - you'll be better able to help her if you help yourself, too.

 

[rascal1]

There may not be DNA if they used condoms. The blood may only be hers. I don't know. I don't think you know, either.

One thing I WOULD suggest however, is that you not ignore your own mental health in this. As much as your daughter needs counseling - so do you. This is a terrible thing for anyone to go through, including the victim's parents. Please don't ignore your own needs - you'll be better able to help her if you help yourself, too.

thank you, i do understand and yes i am at my ends. my main concern is my daughter and hopefully finding some way the law punishing them. I will talk to the da in hopefully trying for a I think you said plea. don't get me wrong it has alot to do with what they did but it is also what they will do again. I can not sit back and know this will happen again to another little girl

are you a lawyer? and what state if I may ask

I hope another may have an answer to how we can proceed. we can not go to a higher court? criminals can

 

[rmet4nzkx]

You are not sorry if you "pissed anyone off". You are as bad as Rmetz!

Again, why do you persist in this behavior, Paridise merely stated that she thought there was more to the story and there was, somehting that was left out that was important. This is a sensitive issue and one for which you have absloutely no business commenting upon given your history encouraging the very crime that injured OP's disabled child. We all know you want to blame the victims. Please leave us alone, don't take your personal vengence and guilt out on people here.

 

[blushes]

http://www.yellowpagesforkids.com/help/legal.advocacy.htm#adv_orgs

This website lists legal advocates for the mentally ill. Scroll partway down the page to find them. They have links for websites and emails, at least one is in TX. Contact some of them with this story. If you are accurately representing the facts in this incident, you should be able to find several agencies willing to help you, most likely without charge.

Best of luck to you and your family.

 

[rascal1]

http://www.yellowpagesforkids.com/help/legal.advocacy.htm#adv_orgs

This website lists legal advocates for the mentally ill.

I have looked at this web and will contact them first thing monday morning, Thank you.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Best wishes for you and your daughter.

 

[rascal1]

Best wishes for you and your daughter.

Thank you

another question.
My daughter is desperate to talk to the da and them tell her why and maybe she can talk to them to not stop it to let them know how scared hse is of them.

I feel maybe good but then bad if they tell her as they told me. But I feel maybe talking to her they would not drop it.

the rape advacate said she will take her and feels also it is good.

What would be your oppinion if this was you or your child.

 

[rascal1]

Also if this is dropped what happens to the no-cotact order placed against them is that dropped also.

 

[Shay-Pari'e]

Thank you

another question.
My daughter is desperate to talk to the da and them tell her why and maybe she can talk to them to not stop it to let them know how scared hse is of them.

I feel maybe good but then bad if they tell her as they told me. But I feel maybe talking to her they would not drop it.

the rape advacate said she will take her and feels also it is good.

What would be your oppinion if this was you or your child.

My take on this, is that a mother knows best. You know your child, and I know many on this forum wish they could jump through the computer screen and take you and your daughter by the hand and lead you. The harsh reality, is that none of us know the extent of this situation. What your daughter went through is horrific, and as being her mother, you did also.

Your daughter is expressing this wish, and as much as you and her have gone through this is a decision for the two of you.

No one know's your baby better than you.


(QUOTE)What would be your oppinion if this was you or your child (QUOTE)

I would be as devestated as you are. Are you personally in therapy? You truly need to be in order for you to be strong for your baby. I say baby, because most of us refer to our children as babies no matter how old.