Is this a Leagle Crime??

[AmosMoses]

A & O

AmosMoses, why are you jumpin' on this bandwagon. calatty does not have to answer your question, As I write this neither did IAAL. I will. Generally speaking, post conviction relief applies to those who were convicted and are serving time in jail and there is evidence (e.g. DNA) that exonerates them.


Answer: I wasn't jumping on anything. I was referring to calatty's reference to hmmbrdzz's answer to my original post. He mentioned her reply, poked fun at it, and I didn't appreciate it so I spoke up. I think that anyone who has taken the time and effort to answer a query, good or bad, sweet or nasty, right or wrong, has done everything that he is able to on this forum, and I for one appreciate it. I also think that if calatty spent half the time supplying informed responses as he did extolling his own virtues as a criminal defense superman, we may could all benefit from his great genius.

 

[hmmbrdzz]

Thank ya' Amos! I'm glad you got your short legal answer to your question regarding post conviction relief. What a relief, huh?

This place is grrrrrreat.

hmmbrdzz

 

[apples&oranges]

I think if you do a search of calatty responses you'll find that he does not spend all his time extolling his virtures. I think you may find he spends unnecessary time defending himself from unnecessary PERSONAL attacks. Perhaps I missed it but I have not seen any attacks where someone has, with clarity demonstrated that the advice calatty has given was incorrect. I have seen him attacked because someone did not like the answer calatty provided and/or the person he provided it too. If someone is giving incorrect advice by all means do correct them. If you simply don't like the correct advice someone is providing, that's your prerogative. Is it necessary that you attack their person?

People are accused and more often than not, guilty of heinous crimes. Sometimes they're accused and are not guilty or at least there is no evidence to suggest they are guilty except heresay (remember the McMartin preschool case?). It appears to me that you jumped on the "bandwagon" not because of what you know is true but because of statements written by others on this board. If I am wrong, do right me. The proof is in the pudding. Look at the whole of calatty responses rather than a thread or two.

I am not a professional in the legal field. I admit I DON'T know much about law. I am not in any legal trouble (though I might be if I don't file my tax return soon). I am here because I recently became a volunteer for an organization where some of the people have been or is in trouble with law enforcement. I had no understanding of their problems. This site is a value to me when I find easily understoond and correct answers and references. For those among you who provide these answers I thank you.

 

[hmmbrdzz]

I think I've just learned that some believe that it's not "right" for "anal retentive folks" to attack "their person", but that it's "right" for the "not so anal retentive" to stick rusted pitch forks up others' butts for enemas.

As the great Hendrix still cries, "There must be some kind of way outta here, said the joker to the thief. There's too much confusion. I can't get no relief."


hmmbrdzz

PS (edit). Here's a lesson for the "learners" who might appreciate this spelling lesson. It's "prerogative". (I guess I'm in that anal retentive bunch.)

 

[apples&oranges]

Posted by: IAAL

QUOTE]Originally posted by apples&oranges
While I like cats and dogs, I like my garden more. It is the owner of domesticated animals reponsibility to ensure their pets safety. I do not want your cat or dog in my yard. If your animal craps in my yard please do clean up after it. I don't poison animals (I sometimes wish I could legally harm their owners). I will trap cats and take them to the pound. If you truly care about your pet, ensure they stay on your property (in your house). Therefore there will be no need for folks like me to trap them and take them to the animal shelter. It's a win-win situation. Your pet lives a long life giving you years of love and enjoyment and they don't ruin my garden. [/QUOTE]


My response:

You're lucky you don't live here in California, A&O. Cats have no restrictions in Southern California. So, if I ever caught you trapping my cats, no matter what you're reasoning, I'd come over to your home and do a lot more than "ruin your garden." I'd be ruining your life. I'd make your life a living hell. I'd make is so you'd wish you were never born. I'd keep you so wrapped up in litigation that you'd wind up filing bankruptcy. Simply, I'd "ruin" you.

So, don't be so cavalier with your opinions about taking a cat or two to the pound. You might just meet up with a neighbor like me.

IAAL

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Posted by: Homeguru

I do live in California, I live in No. California. The traps are available from the animal shelter. If I lived next to you then I guess I would have to try to take you to small claims court to recover damages YOUR animals caused to my garden. If that didn't work and I couldn't trap your animals, as a previous poster suggested I'd might have to "spill" a little bit of anti-freeze. That's the problem with folks like you, rather than take responsibility for what is yours you'd rather use the courts for dumbsh*t.

**A: IAAL is too conservative. If I caught you messing with my cats, you would answer to Mr. Shotgun and after would be missing your apples&oranges.
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Posted by: apples&oranges

My response to "spilling" anti-freeze was directed to IAAL in jest. I have/will not set out any poisons. I do not use any chemicals is my yard. I however standfast in my opinion that your animals are your responsibility. Everyone does not think your animal is as adorable and lovable has you may think it is. Not all plants are tolerant of animal waste. I have some unusual and rare and expensive plants. I do not want to, or think I should have to tolerate other folks domesticated animals in my yard. I don't mind the possoms, raccons, squirrels and birds they are native animals in the area and I moved into their habitat (another reason not to use poisons). I also have bird feeders for that native animal species. I did not put them up so that some neighbors cat could find easy prey (which they don't eat, just kill). Besides cat waste stinks to the high heavens.

IAAL, it is my good fortune that you are not my neighbor. Because the minute you came to my door intending to do "a lot more than ruin my garden" I'd grab your tired azz, pull you into the house beat you senseless and then call the police on you. It's a very stupid thing to go to someone's front door and threaten them.

(Neat trick. (IAAL) Congratulations to you for such incisive thought and deed. We can now all rest.

Msg. for DRN: There are some of us who will miss your comments/advice if you should decide not to return.)

IAAL. if you're pissed off about the above msg. Sit Close... Listen carefully.... grow up and get over it!


Homeguru, I hope you're a good shot because you wouldn't get a second chance. Please do remember that they did not only manufacture one firearm.

For the both of you; I have rusted pitch fork I was going to throw away. I've now decided I'll save it for you two use to rend yourself anal*y, you're both too far gone for an enema.

'nough said!

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hmmbrdzz,

Context, my dear, context!

Yes it does seem you could've benefited from use of the pitch fork too! Alas I've thrown it away. I do have some tweezers you can have, so that you may pull that long hair from your anus, it's obviously irritating you. It's okay, you can have them I don't want them back!!

Thanks for the spelling correction.

 

[hmmbrdzz]

I knew you would gracefully acknowledge the spelling correction, A&O. Afterall, you're here to learn.

I'm so glad I could assist you today in learning something about your "prerogative" as it compares to others' choices. There are some who choose to honorably admit they enjoy using the pitch fork while there are others who pose questions, such as "is it necessary that you attack their person"? Glad you've got a pitch fork, too, and know how to use it. You're going to need it in that volunteer work you've chosen.

Oh -- by the way, what kinds of birds do you have. Any Baltimore orioles? (I'm an enthusiast in that arena, too.) Marshmellows and peanut butter is the trick, my dear. No sweet antifreeze, though.



hmmbrdzz

 

[calatty]

The post that IAAL found so offensive was from a man saying in his younger years he made stupid mistakes, but now has changed his ways, and wants to know if those juvenile offenses were strikes. IAAL chastised me for correctly advising him they were not. IAAL advocates giving FALSE legal advice on these boards for one's own patronizing and moral reasons! Which means his legal advice, such as it is, is utterly WORTHLESS:

"What is the name of your state? california
I was in my younger years a non thinking law breaking wild and stupid teenager at 16 I had a friend who the night before stole a gun from a car not to far from my school when he told me we cut class to get it, and got caught by the police he had the gun on him and we went to jail. i pleaded guilty of the crime of possesion of cosealed fire arm.I later was convicted of residential burglary, and possesion of cocain. At the age of eighteen.I know thats bad the guilt alone makes it almost impossable to admitt to on this forum. I live with it every day.Here it is fourteen years later and Im married to a wonderful woman and have three great kids.
but my mind often wanders to the judge who said one more conviction for anything and it will be my third strike.my question is is thier a way to have my juevnile record sealed so it won't count as a strike?"

Calatty's response:
Your cocaine and weapon possession offenses are not strikes under the Three Strikes law...

IAAL's rant:
Way to go, Calatty. Just what the hell is wrong with you? Did you NOT see the direction we NEEDED to go with this criminal? We WANTED him to believe he could go to prison for life! But, YOU just gave him a LICENSE to have NO FEARS of that happening.


Oh, and IAAL, there is a difference between constitutional law and criminal law, though they intersect. I don't know what you know about constitutional law, but you don't know s--- about California criminal law, and wouldn't know a strike if it bit you, and it looks like you forgot most of what you learned at Universtity of West Tujunga night law school.

 

[I AM ALWAYS LIABLE]

My response:

Bite me, CalCockroach.

This is EXACTLY why I'm so pissed off with you - -

The former writer had said . . .
"but my mind often wanders to the judge who said one more conviction for anything and it will be my third strike.my question is is thier a way to have my juevnile record sealed so it won't count as a strike?"

Calatty's ultra liberal response:
"Your cocaine and weapon possession offenses are not strikes under the Three Strikes law..."


I was trying to "assist" society, as a whole, when I said he would go to prison for another "strike." There IS a greater good, other than helping a singular criminal. But no, you had to HARM society by helping another criminal to commit more crimes. The writer's "fears" were the only things keeping him from committing another crime and, thereby, harming society - - once again.

And, thank you for re-posting my response to you. It shows that you can't think beyond your nose, and see the bigger picture.

Get off the forums, and stay off.

IAAL

 

[apples&oranges]

wit battle with unarmed persons 101.

I will also gracefully aknowledge your questions/statements:

I know what to do with rusted pitchforks, throw them away as I have no personal use for them, if you however would like me to save them for your future use... since you "...choose to honorably admit they enjoy using the pitch fork." (to rend yourself anal*y?).

I didn't state what volunteer work I actually do. I did say: "I recently became a volunteer for an organization where some of the people have been or is in trouble with law enforcement."

I never did say I have any birds. I did say: "I also have bird feeders for that native animal species." orioles are not native to my area...

I also stated: "My response to "spilling" anti-freeze was directed to IAAL in jest. I have/will not set out any poisons. I do not use any chemicals is my yard"

jest n. something said for fun, often to tease or mock: she said it only in jest (i.e. not seriously).

Report card for hmmbrdzz:

Spelling: A
Comprehension: D-
Jumping to Conclusions (Phys. Ed.): B+


BTW, "is it necessary that you attack their person"? should read "is it necessary that you attack their person?" the ? mark should be within the quotation marks.

 

[hmmbrdzz]

You get an "F" today for having bird feeders and no birds. What the h*ll is wrong you, anyhow? You're a kind, kind member of the ACLU and a kind, kind volunteer of some organization (perhaps one that's helping the under-educated whos' headed to prison), yet you trap cats because of your garden and birds (yet you now imply you have no birds). Your alleged beautiful gardens should be attracting natural insects, butterflies, and pests that native birds should be flocking to. I conclude, therefore, you have birds.

Hmm. This kind of sounds like a good case to present to the radical PETA group -- those insane animal rights' activists (kind of like the animal version of the ACLU). Yeah -- get rid of A&O's garden (an exotic one, at that) and the natural insects it's attracting that native birds are eating (poor insects). Liberate the cats A&O has been trapping and taking to death row on account of a garden.

Take responsibility for what is yours, too, A&O.

I give myself an "A".

hmmbrdzz

 

[apples&oranges]

hmmdrzz wrote:

"You get an "F" today for having bird feeders and no birds. What the h*ll is wrong you, anyhow? You're a kind, kind member of the ACLU and a kind, kind volunteer of some organization (perhaps one that's helping the under-educated whos' headed to prison), yet you trap cats because of your garden and birds (yet you now imply you have no birds). Your alleged beautiful gardens should be attracting natural insects, butterflies, and pests that native birds should be flocking to. I conclude, therefore, you have birds.

Hmm. This kind of sounds like a good case to present to the radical PETA group -- those insane animal rights' activists (kind of like the animal version of the ACLU). Yeah -- get rid of A&O's garden (an exotic one, at that) and the natural insects it's attracting that native birds are eating (poor insects). Liberate the cats A&O has been trapping and taking to death row on account of a garden.

Take responsibility for what is yours, too, A&O.

I give myself an "A".

hmmbrdzz"


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have: a. To be in possession of.
b. To possess as a characteristic, quality, or function.
c. To possess or contain as a constituent part.

The birds are wild. They visit my yard (hopefully). They eat and/or drink and leave. I do not own (possess) them, any more than I own the cats, raccons or squirrels that are sometimes in my yard, therefore I do not HAVE them. I really like the finches and hummingbirds.

hmmbrdzz motto:

If you're unable to prove your point with wit & wisdom (and truth & fact); baffle 'em with stupidity.

To you hmmbrdzz I plead: "uncle."

 

[vida]

xxx

 

[one1moment]

omigosh!!

I was "bashed" on this website last night, for being long winded, emotional, whiny whatever..
Criticizes due to the fact that in my confused desperation I shared TOO much... told that my daughter was a whacko etc.. because she has been unable to share her thoughts with me ( due to the fact that her dad makes her constantly question her feelings) and it took me posting here to get her to open up..... I was made to feel like crap for my childish whiny posts.......

This thread goes way beyond anything that I have done as far as emotionality, childishness etc...... And some of you DARE to point the finger at ME regarding the need for counseling?????

"ok children, break it up and play nice"