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Lowering amount of CS agreed to in a MSA in Florida

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DChristian112

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Um... MINNESOTA only calculates the obligor's income, and could give a rat's butt about the obligee's income.
Just an FYI for Leesy!
 


Grace_Adler

Senior Member
Nothing any of us is saying is doing a bit of good. All that BLCM posted about giving out legal advice was for nothing. Since when is it illegal to give out PUBLIC INFORMATION? Gee I didn't know I couldn't tell someone what forms to use to file a motion and that they are entitled to do so when it is PUBLIC INFO. I guess all these other websites should be shut down for giving out PUBLIC LEGAL INFO. There is a difference between giving out legal advice and acting like an attorney like you're going to represent someone and giving out common knowledge and public information! Who's to say what legal advice is versus public info? Where do you draw the line?

Gee, I guess all that stuff I copy and pasted from the NC child support website is all wrong. I guess someone better tell them to take it down cuz they're wrong and are supposed to use both parent's incomes at all times.

BTW, I know several court orders personally here that need to be changed because they are only using the NCP's income only. Do you think you could fix that for everyone and tell the judge they were wrong?
 

Whyte Noise

Senior Member
Elease said:
Ryry's Mom-Odd you should know about CSE in FLORIDA. Thought you were in Nebraska. Let me guess...you lived in Florida for 50 years and know all about CSE cases here. Ok.
CSE sends out lots of threats. I was telling the OP he had no reason to concern himself with jail time at this early stage of the game.

And I will make this point again. In FLORIDA a paralegal cannot give legal advice. I do not give legal advice. For all the wannabe lawyers out there who are so quick to hand it out incognito, help yourselves.

Thank you Momma Tiger I will research your links and hopefully learn something. However, I have yet to prepare the documents in any state for a dissolution which involves children where the income of both parents was not considered in the calculation of child support. Perhaps the financial affidavits required by each state, for each parent, have been obolished. Having prepared the documents for every state in the country successfully, I am wondering who else has missed out on your study.

Thank you all for being so entertaining. It's been a fun weekend but some of us have jobs to do tomorrow. This tah ta tah now bores me.

****Again, it's Abolish, not Obolish.

**** Why do I get the feeling that Elease would be working for one of those online document preparation websites you see on the web? Normally, an attorney (and their office) only prepares documents for the state they are licensed to practice in. Yet, Elease says she's prepared documents for all 50 states.

**** It's not a "Study" you've missed out on, it's the actual laws and statutes of the states you proclaim to have prepared documents in. I gave you the correct Georgia statute. Look it up yourself. CS is based SOLELY on a percentage of the obligor's gross income. That's it. I even wrote out what my own final decree says in regards to CS obligation. Yet, you want to sit there and say that because you've "prepared" documents in all 50 states, you know more about the laws of any one particular state than the legislators that MADE the laws, or the people that have actually been subject TO those laws? OK, Carnac the Magnificant. Have it your way. You might wanna take off the rose colored glasses one day though.
 

Grace_Adler

Senior Member
"You might wanna take off the rose colored glasses one day though." posted by BLCM

** I think she stole mine because I can't find them anywhere. LOL

What is up with people stealing crack pipes and glasses?
 

CMSC

Senior Member
BLCM said:
****Again, it's Abolish, not Obolish.

**** Why do I get the feeling that Elease would be working for one of those online document preparation websites you see on the web? Normally, an attorney (and their office) only prepares documents for the state they are licensed to practice in. Yet, Elease says she's prepared documents for all 50 states.

Yea, I think that too. What is the site www.paralegalsrRus.com?

"You too can be a paralegal in just 39 days! Send payment of $99.99 each month and you will recieve materials to help YOU become a paralegal in each and EVERY state. You can screw up as much as you want because many state bar associations don't regulate us!!!":)
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Here, Elease - this site http://www.abanet.org/family/familylaw/table3.html has a nicely clear and concise table of how CS is calculated in each state - i.e. whether an income sharing model is used or not. What do you know?!?!?! Quite a few states DO NOT base CS on income sharing, but only on the NCP's income! I find it not only amazing, but quite troubling that someone who purports to be so knowledgeable as to have completed paperwork for people all over the country doesn't know this.
 

VeronicaGia

Senior Member
To the original poster

I didn't read all the responses, but my suggestion to you is to file for a modification. And go to www.deltabravo.net, which is an excellent resource for non-custodial parents.

Someone may have already posted the above info, sorry if this is duplicate advice. :)
 
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Elease

Guest
Why are you beating this dead horse? There is no shame in the realization that the law is not black and white...geez...

Momma, your listing is somewhat out of date, like two years.

Its been a very busy day so I will continue with the remainder of your listing another day. But here are just a few.


Alaska Rules of Civil Procedure 90.3

Supreme Court of Arkansas Administrative Order #10
.347 ARK Child Support Guidelines

Delaware: Family Court Child Support Calculations
Melson Formula Del Code Annotated, Title 13, Chapter 5, Sections 501,514, and 701

District of Columbia: Title 16 Chapter 9 16-916
1. Child Support Guidelines (j)(1)(2)
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Looking at the first one - Alaska:

"(f) will be calculated as an amount equal to the adjusted annual income of the non-custodial parent multiplied by a percentage specified in subparagraph (a)(2). "

Which part of that says anything about shared-income models? Where does it state that the custodial parent's income is factored in? Did you actually read any of it? Or are you simply nit-picking that the table is 2 years old?
 

Whyte Noise

Senior Member
Elease said:
Why are you beating this dead horse? There is no shame in the realization that the law is not black and white...geez...


There is also no shame in admitting that you screwed and posted the wrong thing, and have been trying to rationalize it ever since.
 

Grace_Adler

Senior Member
I guess we're beating the dead horse cuz there is nothing better to do. Also we wouldn't want people to think that CS guidelines are based on the NCP's and CP's income in every state.

As far as the site being 2 years old, I don't see the problem with that in some cases because in some states they only review the guidelines once every 4 years.
 
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Elease

Guest
Looking at the first one - Alaska:

"(f) will be calculated as an amount equal to the adjusted annual income of the non-custodial parent multiplied by a percentage specified in subparagraph (a)(2). "

Which part of that says anything about shared-income models? Where does it state that the custodial parent's income is factored in? Did you actually read any of it? Or are you simply nit-picking that the table is 2 years old?

Sometimes in interpreting the law we have to comprehend the entire statute, not just look for one paragraph to prove our point. If you will read and comprehend the full text you will find the answer.
 
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DChristian112

Guest
Are we seriously still debating the legalities of this?
Leesy- what stae are you in?
What stae is the poster in?
Where did you get your degree Leesy? (If you got one?)
You are not an attorney, so please, leave the orignal poster's post alone.
She got her advice.
"Speak with an attorney" I think is what was said.
Good Luck OP!
 
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Elease

Guest
Leesy- what stae are you in?
What stae is the poster in?

Well CHRISTINE you are way behind. The OP was asking about CS in the Great State of Florida. Just so happens I've been in the Great State of Florida most of my long life!

"You are not an attorney, so please, leave the orignal poster's post alone."

Ugh oh..does that mean only attorneys can post on this board?

"She got her advice."

Ummm..its a HE dear. Just so happens this NCP is the father.

"Speak with an attorney" I think is what was said.

Who said that? LOL

And thank you all for the cute nickname..I never had one before. A true term of endearment?
 

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