passport issue

[Bloopy]

So can we make her give us a retainer of the 50k prior to leaving the country? I doubt if she can afford to do that...she doesnt make much money

There's that d@mn Wii again.
50K is a bit steep... but she wouldn't have to have it in cash. Nothing would happen to her $$ if she returns. Dad would not have access to this money until the children are deemed missing.

so you say the court will allow her to get a passport even if my husband refuses to give it to her?

Hell yes.

Mom has every right to travel with their mutual children on her time. SHe has never given a reason for a court to rule otherwise

Dad would have that right as well.

 

[proud_parent]

well she is taking him to court and I guess the judge will decide on that.....if the judge says yes, then I guess he will have to do that..but what if he still refuse even after the court order?

What do you mean, "if he still refuse"?

I she obtains a court order specifically allowing the travel, she may apply for and be granted a passport without his signature. She will then be permitted to travel with the child. Your husband's wishes will not mean diddly.

 

[stepmom4ever]

Yes, because your husband doesn't run anything/anyone but YOU. Quite frankly, the judge is going to hand her an order for a passport with no problems whatsoever.


Her jealous of YOU and your baby? Puh-leaze. She's laughing... all the way to the airport. He's YOUR problem now. Pay close attention. You'll be next.

COURTCLERK: I know you have so much to say about my relationship of my husband but I honestly dont see him that way....he does not treat me that way at all.... I just dont see it in him, maybe he really just dont like her, that's possible...he told me they were never serious and maybe that's all it was...I believe people love one person and not another

 

[Mamie]

And I believe if you eat enough honey baked ham you can fart your way to the moon

He liked her enough to produce children with her. And you are paying his child support, sounds like he is treating you much worse.

 

[CourtClerk]

COURTCLERK: I know you have so much to say about my relationship of my husband but I honestly dont see him that way....

Open your eyes or put on your glasses/contacts.

he does not treat me that way at all....

I know, because you roll over to anything/everything he says and does. It's when you develop a spine when he will turn into the Anti-Christ to you.

I just dont see it in him, maybe he really just dont like her, that's possible...he told me they were never serious and maybe that's all it was...

Oh, so he's into disrespecting women's bodies and having indiscriminate sex with just anyone? Get an AIDS test... along with tests for all other STDs.

I believe people love one person and not another

If this is true, does he love YOU or his CHILD? And since you're pregnant, is he going to love YOU or his CHILD? You said people love one person and not another, so who is he going to choose? Oh wait... now that you think about it, that's not what you meant, now is it?

Think hard. We'll be around when you wake up and need help with your divorce, although something in me hopes he puts you though EVERYTHING he's putting her through. And more.

 

[stepmom4ever]

If this is true, does he love YOU or his CHILD? And since you're pregnant, is he going to love YOU or his CHILD? You said people love one person and not another, so who is he going to choose? Oh wait... now that you think about it, that's not what you meant, now is it?

Think hard. We'll be around when you wake up and need help with your divorce, although something in me hopes he puts you though EVERYTHING he's putting her through. And more.[/QUOTE]


I would like to think he loves his first child me and our unborn child equally! I know marriages dont last forever but I will try my hardest to make it work.....period

 

[Just Blue]

Isn't OP the freak that was confused when the mother to her hubby's child was pissed when OP showed up at the hospital after delivery...??

Sorry...I probably could have worded that better...lol!!

 

[ErinGoBragh]

Yep, same freak. And she hasn't learned much, from the sounds of it.

 

[onebreath]

There should be a way to look up which countries are part of the Hague something...look up in a Nolo Press book or online...as to which countries agree to abide by...which means there are laws in place in the case of kidnapping that will respect US laws to work with them to retrieve a kidnapped child.

After that, if it not in CO get mom to write a letter stating exactly when she will return the child. After all that, dad should let her go. I know what its like having an ex make it hard for me and daughter to visit family even in the US on our vacation time...you don't want to keep someone from their family...its not good.

 

[profmum]

No she never kept him from his child and there were never an issue of her not giving him his child for visitations...she had primary physical custody but they have joint legal...she wants to take him to court because he rfuse to giver her permission to get their son a passport... he thinks she wont return the baby

Then Dad,ie your hubby is going to get a much deserved tongue lashing from the Court, as my ex did. It is funny that all thoughts of a "flight risk" only occur after a divorce not while conceiving the baby!. If there is NO history of such behavior, the Courts will grant Mum the right to get a passport...

 

[profmum]

Ask that she put up a retainer (like $50K) before she leaves, so that if she doesn't return, YOUR HUBBY has the money to go find the kiddo.

But you should accept that kiddo will get a passport and visit mom's fam. And will most likely return unharmed.

Is that the price of a child then 50 K?, My ex asked the courts to make me post a 50 K bond (which in my county here in CO is the posted bond amount for attempted murder!) m when there was no history of my being a "flight risk" and he got reamed by the Courts.

 

[profmum]

well she is taking him to court and I guess the judge will decide on that.....if the judge says yes, then I guess he will have to do that..but what if he still refuse even after the court order?

Then he is a bigger idiot than you are... you do NOT defy a court order. Ughh! Dad is going down the same path my ex did, repeated attempts to abort trips overseeas to visit family, well, the Court granted them again and again and now he has lost the ability to keep our DD passport.

 

[LdiJ]

No she never kept him from his child and there were never an issue of her not giving him his child for visitations...she had primary physical custody but they have joint legal...she wants to take him to court because he rfuse to giver her permission to get their son a passport... he thinks she wont return the baby

Its almost guaranteed that a judge would order him to sign the passport application. I judge is not going to deny a parent the right to visit their home country with the child, unless the home country is one where it would be truly possible to retrieve the child (think Iran for example). Whether or not she would have to post a bond depends on many different factors. For example, if she has a good job in the US, is a legal resident/citizen etc., she's unlikely to have to post a bond.

 

[Ohiogal]

well she is taking him to court and I guess the judge will decide on that.....if the judge says yes, then I guess he will have to do that..but what if he still refuse even after the court order?

Then he will be breaking the law and can face penalties such as jail time, fines and various other punishments. And he will prove himself even more of a putz. He will not be refusing to allow her a passport because the COURT ORDER ITSELF is enough for her to get a passport.

 

[Humusluvr]

No she never kept him from his child and there were never an issue of her not giving him his child for visitations...she had primary physical custody but they have joint legal...she wants to take him to court because he rfuse to giver her permission to get their son a passport... he thinks she wont return the baby

If she has never kept HIM from his child, and you have no tangible proof that she plans to not return, then this court battle is in vain.

Does she have a house? car? belongings? friends? Its highly unlikely that she would just ditch everything and not come back, especially when there are international laws (Hague Convention I believe) that would make her return the child and face hefty jail time.

She is gonna get the passport. She is gonna take the trip. You are paying your hubby's child support now, you want to be bailing him out of jail, and paying for a new plane ticket for mom and child if they miss the trip, along with all mom's attorney fees? YOU ARE PAYING OUT THE YING YANG FOR THIS MAN!!! DO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR THIS BIG A SCREW UP? If he doesn't let mom and child take the trip - consider yourself financially ruined. And consider what that means to your unborn child.