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Does she have enough to change custody?

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LdiJ

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His teachers don't see any signs of learning disabilities or other disorders so he's not been tested for anything at this point. However his tutor is a retired sped teacher with 25 years experience working with special needs and regular kids. She's not licensed to actually evaluate him but we've discussed things and she's going to work with him and if she feels he exhibits signs of anything like that she's going to let me know so I can get him the appropriate testing.

He was the youngest in his class. Since he repeated 1st grade he's right in the middle age wise as far as his classmates ages are concerned.

Other than the education issues I cant think of any other "change of circumstances" she would have.

Dad, just a couple of things to throw out there...more on the parenting end than the legal one. It might be that your son likes the aspect of being the only child at his mom's house...and perhaps even the aspect of not being the oldest child. Those are two reasons why a child might want to try residing with the other parent. If you make an effort to spend more one on one time with him and maybe ease up any pressure he is getting from being the oldest, you might find that his interest in living with mom wanes.
 


TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Read this:
https://www.msbar.org/media/273378/GAL%20Disc%203%20%20Mississippi%20Law%20on%20Custody%20and%20Visitation.pdf

If Mom files in Texas rather than Mississippi, then you will need to get an attorney in Texas to motion to dismiss because of improper venue.
 

dadinMS

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I can't quote on my phone so please bear with me. My son isn't the oldest. He has 2 older half sisters and a stepsister that is one year older than him. So right now he's the youngest. In August my wife is having a baby that will be my son's baby brother.

As far as I know she will be filing in MS. She said she's getting a MS attorney.

When she does file and I'm served do I file to have it dismissed based on no change in circumstances? I wish I could afford a lawyer but I really don't think I'll be able to.
 

dadinMS

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new question

I have a new somewhat related question.

Our son has recently went through some medical testing because of an abnormal finding on an xray of his leg. He has had xrays, MRI, CT, and a bone scan. Three radiologists, an internal medicine doctor, and the best pediatric orthopedic surgeon in our area all agree that it is a completly benign condition that requires no further treatment other than follow up xrays every 6 months for the next few years just to monitor.

The exwife is wanting to take our son to texas and have all the tests repeated by a doctor there for a second opinion. I object for several reasons mainly that it's not necessary. Also it will not be covered by our insurance so she wants us each to pay half. I cant afford that right now. I know I'm cynical and jaded but I really think her motivation for this is to try to appear more involved with him than she really is since she's filing to change custody. In 8 years she has never been involved in his healthcare. She didn't even come when he had surgery at 6 years old. But she drove 8 hours to come for his MRI and got all kinds of documentation to "prove she was there." (Her words to the receptionist. ) I personally think it was stupid to come to the MRI instead of the appt with the surgeon to get the actual results but whatever.

So anyways we have joint legal custody which in my state means we have to exchange information and confer. Check and check. I've shared all medical reports with her and we've "conferred." We just don't agree. So if our order is silent and statute doesn't say what to do if we don't agree then what do we do?
 

dadinMS

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The orthopedic surgeon was the second opinion. We were originally seeing an internal med doctor. The surgeon we went to is the guy everyone here goes to for second opinions from other surgeons. We started off with him after the internal med doctor.
 

Ladyback1

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You should get a second opinion, but do it within the insurance network if possible.
The thing is, a lot of insurances will not cover a second opinion--especially when such extensive testing has already been done, and the results were found to be benign (more or less).
And even if the insurance would pay for a consult with another physician, they most likely would not pay for all the testing to be re-done.

My advice? Tell Mom that if she wants a second opinion, she can pay for it, and will be done either at doctor that is mutually acceptable or not done at all.

(from a personal opinion, IF the second opinion happens, I would take the kiddo to Arkansas Children's Hospital--completely neutral territory, and exceptional care!;))
 

dadinMS

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Unfortunately our network is only in MS and part of AL. I've already paid over $3000 out of pocket and that was in network. Our insurance sucks but it's all that is available right now.

At this point if we've shared info and conferred and still don't agree would it be on her to file in court for a decision since she's the one who wants something? If so then I'm not going to worry about until I'm actually served with something.
 

Ladyback1

Senior Member
At this point if we've shared info and conferred and still don't agree would it be on her to file in court for a decision since she's the one who wants something? If so then I'm not going to worry about until I'm actually served with something.
Yep!
And, I'm betting a judge would see her request as unreasonable--unless she agrees to pay 100% for the 2nd opinion herself.

(I deal with a PITA Ex, who questioned why I took one of the kiddos to the local Health Dept for his 12 y/o DTaP booster--which is required for school here, and refused to reimburse me for the out-of-pocket expense of $3! I feel your pain)

**yes, I know that there are exceptions that can be granted for immunizations. However, he's already had all of the immunizations, and I have no ethical, moral or religious beliefs that would qualify for the exemptions/exceptions;)**
 

dadinMS

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Thank you. And kids here have to get that booster too to start 7th grade. :)

Her latest email states that she is doing phone consultations with MS attorneys and will be retaining one and she will email me his info so I can call him to discuss changing custody. I told her not to bother as I won't be calling him to discuss anything. She said apparently I don't understand how this works and that if she retains a lawyer i have to talk to him. So I told her apparently she's the one who doesn't understand and that I dont have to do anything until I'm actually served. So we shall see what happens.
 

Ladyback1

Senior Member
Thank you. And kids here have to get that booster too to start 7th grade. :)

Her latest email states that she is doing phone consultations with MS attorneys and will be retaining one and she will email me his info so I can call him to discuss changing custody. I told her not to bother as I won't be calling him to discuss anything. She said apparently I don't understand how this works and that if she retains a lawyer i have to talk to him. So I told her apparently she's the one who doesn't understand and that I dont have to do anything until I'm actually served. So we shall see what happens.
I would not engage in any conversation w/ her about this...discuss the kiddo as normal, but ignore any other snarky comments. (and you are correct, you don't have to "discuss" or cut a deal with her atty.)
 

single317dad

Senior Member
You do not have to discuss anything with her attorney (in fact, I would advise against it in most cases).

What does your court order say regarding payment for medical services? I didn't see that information in your previous posts. Depending how the order is written, it's possible she COULD have the right to seek further examination, and you MIGHT be responsible for the payment. Who a judge might side with in that case is arguable, but you don't want to end up in that predicament.
 

dadinMS

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Thank you. All our order says is that out of pocket medical and dental expenses will be split between the parties.

How do I fight it if she tries to take him to another doctor and make me pay half? I've already spent $3000 on the testing and appointments he's already had. She's supposed to pay half but it's only been a few weeks so I'm not really worried about it yet.
 

single317dad

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How do I fight it if she tries to take him to another doctor and make me pay half?

Proactively, you could ask for an injunction or a restraining order (which would depend on your jurisdiction and court rules) preventing her from doing a specific thing (e.g. taking the child to a particular hospital for examination). That would likely be a big hill to climb.

You could ask the judge to clarify the order, or better yet submit your own modified order that more clearly spells out medical issues. For example, you could state specifically that if Mom takes the child for any procedures in addition to those which your doctors determined were sufficient for the child's health, she pays those expenses out of her own pocket. Of course that would require a judge's approval and Mom would have an opportunity to argue the change.

Another option is to state in no uncertain terms that you will not be paying for additional unnecessary out of pocket expenses, wait and see if she actually takes the child to the hospital, then dispute it with the court. While this is the shakiest legal footing, I think you'll still have a decent chance this way.

Probably your best bet is a consultation with a local family law attorney. Paying for an hour of their time now might save you a lot of money later.
 

dadinMS

Member
Good evening. I'm back again with some related questions. I apologize in advance if this gets long. I will use white space and bullet point as much as possible.

When I posted originally it was only about our 11 year old son. We also have a 17 year old daughter. I didn't mention her before bc my ex was only asking for custody of our son. That has now changed. She has not filed at this point but is apparently talking to an attorney. And she sent me a 6 page document that she apparently sent to him about why custody should be changed. I'm guessing she sent it to me to scare me. In my opinion it's 6 pages of toilet paper, but I would like seasoned opinions. I won't subject you to 6 pages of crap. I'll just hit the high points. She is saying that she wants custody of both children. The 17 year old does not want to move to TX. She is a junior in high school and wants to finish high school here and go to college here.

My exwife claims that my wife and I have told the 17 year old that we will be kicking her out when she finishes high school because my wife is pregnant and we need the room for the baby. This is not true. We've never said any such thing. Now onto her reasons.

1.. Son's grades. We've talked about this before. He is most likely not going to fail this year. He's been working with a private tutor and has improved his failing subject from a 63 to an 81 average. As long as he gets a 74 for this final term he will pass this year.

2. My wife.
A. Exwife claims that my wife is bipolar and should be on medication. This is not true. Not even sure where this came from.

B. Exwife claims that my wife and I fight all the time. We've had arguments, yes, same as any other married couple. Exwife claims that my wife and I seperated for 6 months last year. We did seperate, but only for about 2 months. And the point of that seperation was never to get divorced, but only to gain some space and perspective. Which we did.

C. Exwife also claims that my wife's 12 year old has mental problems and has been hospitalized for them and is autistic and bipolar. Yes, my step-daughter is autistic and does suffer from emotional problems. She is in special ed classes in school and is on medication. Are my step-daughter's emotional disabilities even relevant?

D. She claims that my wife is a crazy driver and she would love to see my wife's driving record. My wife is a home hospice nurse and drives about 90% of the day. Her driving record is checked by her employer every 6 months. She has 1 ticket in the last 5 years. For speeding in 2013. It was actually work-related and the kids were not with her. She also claims that my wife texts and drives, which is not true. How do I prove a negative?

E. She claims that my wife has set up a program on the 17 year old's cell phone in order to read all texts and emails between my exwife and the kids. Again not true. About 3 years ago I asked my wife to put a monitoring app on the 17 year old's phone because she was hanging out with questionable people and got caught sneaking out in the middle of the night and I wanted to monitor her communications. Once she gained my trust back it was removed and has not been on her phone for about a year and half.

F. She claims that my wife grounds the kids if her name is even mentioned in our house. This has never happened. Ever.

G. She claims that my wife bought the 11 year old the video game Grand Theft Auto. She didn't. I did. Yes, I let him play it as well as Call of Duty, but only with me. Isn't this my right as a parent?

The rest is just random things thrown in. I'll try to be brief.

- We don't take the kids to get haircuts. Not true. The boy was shaggy for awhile. He always had a buzz cut and wanted to grow it out. I didn't like it but I allowed him to do it. It wasn't hurting anything.

- The kids supposedly always tell her that we have no food in the house. Complete lie. We spend roughly $900-1000 per month on groceries. There is always plenty of food in this house. It may not be what they want, but it's here.

- That we never cook for the kids and make them cook for themselves 3-4 nights per week. Not true. Some weeks my wife or I cook every night. There are weeks that we both have to work a little later or take the 11 year old to tutoring and dont get home until almost 8:00 that yes we tell them to fix something for themselves.

There are additional stories about how my step-daughter tried to get my son to steal a phone charger that someone had left in a doctor waiting room...never happened. Also a story about when she came into town at the last minute one time and wanted the kids. I told her she could have them for a few hours but I needed them back by 5:30 as we already had family dinner plans that had been in place for well over 3 weeks. Blah blah blah. After we had picked them up, those plans fell through because of a death.

That's pretty much the gist of why she wants custody. Opinions please? Thank you for reading all of that!

Editing to add some additional info I forgot.

She also mentions as a reason to change custody that my pregnant wife continues to smoke while pregnant. How is that at all relevant to custody of children who are not my wife's. Yes, she is smoking. But she used to smoke a pack a day and now only smokes 3-4 cigarettes a day. Her OB is fully aware of this and told her to try to stop completely but not to stress too much because the stress would be worse for the baby than the smoking and that if she at least cut back that was better than nothing.

Also a few "negative" points about my exwife. Not sure if they are relevant or not.

- She drinks 2-3 glasses of wine per night. She has admitted this in email to me when I expressed concern after the kids came back from a visit telling me that "mom drinks A LOT."

- She is not married and lives with her boyfriend of 1 year. I really don't care about it, but if a judge might care then maybe it should be brought up.

Thanks again!
 
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