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Dillon

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He thinks admitting his citizenship is incriminating himself..

I never admitted US domicile. I dont live on US territory. I was not born in US territory or D.C.

its about proven legal capacity and not so much U.S. citizens/persons.

its not so much about incrimination, its more about the first and fifth amendments, freedom to speak. freedom to not-speak or freedom stop speaking with people.

I choose limited speech.
 
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ecmst12

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There are only 2 choices - citizen or immigrant (whether legal or illegal). Regardless of what color the sky is on your planet, Texas is part of the US and if you were born there, you are a citizen subject to all the same laws and protections as every other citizen.

If you are NOT a citizen, then you don't have a legal right to work there as you don't have a green card to present.
 

Dillon

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Why is it such a big deal to you to properly complete the I-9 if you've already completed one before for a previous employer? That makes no sense at all to me. I suggest you go back to where ever you came from and get out of this country you seem to have such contempt for. You aren't special here. Maybe you'll be special there.

it makes no sense to keep telling the gov I not illegal when they already know this, does it?

the courts have ruled if something is unnecessary its therefore unreasonable.
 
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mmmagique

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It is "unnecessary" for the company to have to hire you. Therefore, it would be unreasonable for them to hire you. (they should SO run!)
 

Dillon

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It is "unnecessary" for the company to have to hire you. Therefore, it would be unreasonable for them to hire you. (they should SO run!)

They already did hire me. So, did cause me to leave my previous Job with their Job Offer.

Moving is not cheap and finding a new position in this economy may take some time. $$$$$

as I said, "damages looks reasonable".

I am a proven and known non-alien/ U.S. non-permanent resident. (try and wrap your head around that)
 
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Dillon

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There are only 2 choices - citizen or immigrant (whether legal or illegal).
If you are NOT a citizen, then you don't have a legal right to work there as you don't have a green card to present.

and as we know, i am a proven non-immigrant. Get it?

3 legal choices, citizen, immigrant and proven non-immigrant.
 
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Dillon

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You can all stop feeding the troll now, you are only making it stronger and wearing holes in your walls from the head banging.

stop the name calling,

its not my burden to prove Citizenship, its their burden to prove I am not...

pretty hard to do, considering the evidence?
 
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LdiJ

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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Republic of Texas

left my previous job making good money and I got a job OFFER from another company, passed their drug test with flying colors, filled out the I-9 by writing " FIFTH AMENDMENT " across the entire form and signed my name with all rights reserved.

Can the company fire me for not possibly/maybe incriminating myself when I signed and filled-out this form?

also I am not domiciled in the District of Columbia or the territories at this time.

The entire purpose of the I-9 is to verify that you are legally permitted to work in the US at this time. That you are either a citizen, greencard holder, or otherwise eligible for employment. It has nothing to do with where you live. By writing "fifth amendment" on your form you are basically stating that its illegal for you to work in the US. Is that honestly what you intended to convey?
 

ecmst12

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"Proven non-immigrant" is not a real thing, it's a term that you made up. You must prove to your EMPLOYER'S satisfaction that you are legally eligible to work in this country. That means proof of citizenship or green card or other work visa. If your employer is not satisfied with the proof you provide, and/or it does not conform to the form's requirements, then they MUST either not hire you or immediately terminate employment.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
That's exactly where you're wrong, Dillon. It IS your responsibility to prove that you are legally entitled to work in the US (which does not equate being a citizen). It is NOT their responsibility to prove you aren't. Either you cough up the proof, or you are out the door.

And I'm still waiting for you to post the law that says you can supply a non-standard affidavit in lieu of the I-9 form and the employer has to take it. Either post it or shut your trap.
 

You Are Guilty

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Am I really the only one who finds it incredulous that not just one, but supposedly two different employers were crazy enough to hire Mr. Freeman?

(Unless the second job is from Trolls, Inc., in which case I say Dillon is due a huge raise.)
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
Considering the source? I don't find it to be outside the realm of possibility that the entire thread is hypothetical.
 
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