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AkersTile

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i have done things that i have been advised of in this thread. i am simply asking how one comes about in having so much experience in these things if not an attorney. experience in this realm? how does someone have so much experience if not an attorney? are you paralegals? court reporters? honestly, how can you proclaim to have tons of experience in this realm when you don't provide me with anything to go by. and if you aren't really reading my questions or things that i have already done than how am i wasting your time?

Some people have to deal with this in their lives therefore they educate themselves.They also very graciously choose to educateothers where they need help. Some of the seniors are members of the legal field whether as attorneys, paralegals, GALs, whatever. You on the other hand, are an idiot.
 


Proserpina

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advice. am i less than a parent because i have only one child. i have a legitimate legal concern. are you an attorney?



If you want an attorney, HIRE AN ATTORNEY.

But you're not going to do that, because you're trolling.

We know this. Trust me, we know this. :cool:
 
Hx=history. As in, your history where its almost crystal clear that you developed a new handle in order to further harass Pro--

MY expertise? It isn't legal. I do have some layperson experience thanks to a nasty situation. My area of expertise is syntax and linguistics. As in, I can generally spot digital signatures quickly.
 

ibethemom

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know what?

If you want an attorney, HIRE AN ATTORNEY.

But you're not going to do that, because you're trolling.

We know this. Trust me, we know this. :cool:

who am i then? here's my case number FC20004-012842 it is out of the az superior court. public record. please insure that you read all the information. you gave me advice and i looked up information. i am not looking for an attorney. i asked if you were one. you said that you are not. it doesn't give you the right to judge me and profess to know who you think i am. you don't know my background or my situation. so please kindly stop being rude to me. i have a right to question where your experience comes from just as you have a right to question whether or not my legal advice request is genuine. i can assure you that it is.
 

Proserpina

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who am i then? here's my case number FC20004-012842 it is out of the az superior court. public record. please insure that you read all the information. you gave me advice and i looked up information. i am not looking for an attorney. i asked if you were one. you said that you are not. it doesn't give you the right to judge me and profess to know who you think i am. you don't know my background or my situation. so please kindly stop being rude to me. i have a right to question where your experience comes from just as you have a right to question whether or not my legal advice request is genuine. i can assure you that it is.


Hire an attorney. :cool:
 

Just Blue

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i was ordered not to record his conversation with her as he was ordered not to record my conversation with her. i was not ordered not to record my conversations with her. and as i previously stated; he judge was provided with audio CD of my telephone conversations with her and he did not instruct me to stop. i have been ordered not to interfere as he has been instructed the same (him talking to her, and her talking to me). very commonly does not mean always and our other family judge who rotated was very much aware of recordings. his attorney (dad's) has never addressed the issue as dad is sticking a video camera in front of our daughter asking her if i spank her which is not illegal in AZ to spank a child with an open hand on the bottom fully clothed as long as it does not leave a bruise which is then considered abuse. i have already looked into the ARS regarding that issue. i will be more than happy to supply you with anything you wish to see regarding my order. but if you are not an attorney than how can i trust that you are giving me sound advice or know what you write is truth?
READ THE TOS. Pro would not be allowed to post here, icy, if she was posting bad direction to others.
 

Just Blue

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who am i then? here's my case number FC20004-012842 it is out of the az superior court. public record. please insure that you read all the information. you gave me advice and i looked up information. i am not looking for an attorney. i asked if you were one. you said that you are not. it doesn't give you the right to judge me and profess to know who you think i am. you don't know my background or my situation. so please kindly stop being rude to me. i have a right to question where your experience comes from just as you have a right to question whether or not my legal advice request is genuine. i can assure you that it is.

No one that has posted to your thread is an attorney, nor have any of these members ever proclaimed to be one. If you require direction from an attorney, you should hire one. Icy.

Again...READ the TOS.Icy.;)
 

ibethemom

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i have had

Some people have to deal with this in their lives therefore they educate themselves.They also very graciously choose to educateothers where they need help. Some of the seniors are members of the legal field whether as attorneys, paralegals, GALs, whatever. You on the other hand, are an idiot.

to deal with stuff like this. i have educated myself. i am not an idiot. my original thread was how to read my order and understand it because the other party (the dad) reads it much differently. if this wasn't the case and my order is crystal clear than why am i not permitted to speak to my daughte when i have an order that states otherwise. i have read through my parenting time /custody agreement numerous times. i have had attorneys read through. i have asked the family court judge for clarification. i have asked a court assigned parenting coordinator. numerous officers across various jurisdictions have read the same order and even they are scratching their heads not agreeing as to what the order actual reads. i may not be in the legal field but i do have common sense to know that my order contains flaws because dad has found them and is not following them. i have petitioned for contempt, enforcement...etc. i look up the ARS all the time. i search the internet and mostly what i find is forums like these with people like you giving advice professing that they have experience. my experience in these sorts of things aren't less important than yours. anyone who has to go through muck with the other parent...i feel for him/her. the bottom line is i cannot afford attorney. so my other option is to seek advice. but it seems tempers flare and rudeness insues if i question the expertise.
 

ibethemom

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No one that has posted to your thread is an attorney, nor have any of these members ever proclaimed to be one. If you require direction from an attorney, you should hire one. Icy.

Again...READ the TOS.Icy.;)

who is icy? i think you have me confused with someone else. which is really sad because you are being rude to someone asking for legitimate advice.
 

Isis1

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who is icy? i think you have me confused with someone else. which is really sad because you are being rude to someone asking for legitimate advice.

What makes you think icy is a name of a person? Did it occur to you that it might be an arconym?
 
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ibethemom

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How have I been rude to you?

first, you are referring to me as someone else. you are telling me that i am to trust you ... that you know. i have been called an idiot. not specifically by you. but i have been through enough crap to know that my opinion is to be respected. you don't have to like it, but you do need to respect it. you keep saying to hire an attorney. i had one when all this crap originally came about in court. she didn't seem to think there were any problems with what was agreed upon and court ordered. all parties agreed. here i am one year and two months later and dad won't comply. he has a pro bono high powered attorney. dad did not meet the child until she was nearly 5 years of age. he has an extensive criminal background, drug/alcohol abuse. in and out of jail numerous times. faced a 15 year prison sentence for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. he is passive-aggressive. is covert abusive. has left our daughter unattended around his pool which has no fence because scottsdale says door alarms or fence...not both. locked our daughter in a car unattended as punishment for a temper tantrum ( we live in arizona!), crawled on top of her and held her down while kissing her on the lips. walks around the house in various stages of unaddress. i have had 3 cps reports on him of which only one was initiated by me due to him saying she had to sleep with him because there was a bear in the house. so please, you and the others, stop being so rude and mean.
 

Just Blue

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first, you are referring to me as someone else. you are telling me that i am to trust you ... that you know. i have been called an idiot. not specifically by you. but i have been through enough crap to know that my opinion is to be respected. you don't have to like it, but you do need to respect it. you keep saying to hire an attorney. i had one when all this crap originally came about in court. she didn't seem to think there were any problems with what was agreed upon and court ordered. all parties agreed. here i am one year and two months later and dad won't comply. he has a pro bono high powered attorney. dad did not meet the child until she was nearly 5 years of age. he has an extensive criminal background, drug/alcohol abuse. in and out of jail numerous times. faced a 15 year prison sentence for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. he is passive-aggressive. is covert abusive. has left our daughter unattended around his pool which has no fence because scottsdale says door alarms or fence...not both. locked our daughter in a car unattended as punishment for a temper tantrum ( we live in arizona!), crawled on top of her and held her down while kissing her on the lips. walks around the house in various stages of unaddress. i have had 3 cps reports on him of which only one was initiated by me due to him saying she had to sleep with him because there was a bear in the house. so please, you and the others, stop being so rude and mean.

When did I EVER tell you to "trust me"? :confused:
 
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