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Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
msdad said:
What is the name of your state?oh
Well for all of you who gave me advice (nice or not) thanks. I went to court yesterday on the name change of my 9 year old son, whom I've never seen until yesterday. Although I not a good look, because I didn't want his mom to see me look at him. My sons mom & husband were there. He stayed outside with his grandma. My ex tried talking to me, and telling me I was selfish, and to leave the boy alone, that it was my choice to leave. She was so shaken a chunk of her hair fell out right there!! I found a lawyer 2 hours before, they didn't show up with one, so they filed to continue. Apparently now, both lawyers will talk and see what we can come up with. I'm not letting this name change until I don't have to pay support. Because that's not fair. This is eaiser than I thought. I didn't have to say a word at all, and wouldn't even look at her when my ex asked me to. Heck, I might even file for visitation now that I know how easy this is. So I guess there is no question here, but thank you to those who gave me advice and informed me of my rights.

Helloooo! You found a attorney two hours before who filed for a continuence. Dude, Come on down from that cloud, as your case is yet to be heard/
 


LdiJ

Senior Member
stealth2 said:
Not in OH - only consent of the parents, or the judge can override the objections of the parent if the change is in the best interests of the child.

I do know of at least one OH case where the judge asked that the child be present to state their wishes regarding the name change. It wasn't a contested case however (dad was long time awol) so its possible that it was just the preference of that particular judge, for that particular case.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Much ado about nothing. :rolleyes: Win or lose this case, it makes absolutely no difference and your attorney makes easy money. You are not even fighting for anything.
 

msdad

Member
I don't know why you all are so hostile?? You were the ones giving me the advice and telling me that I could object to his name change, and get visitation. Why was I told before that I would eventually get visitation and now I'm being told it won't be that easy? I know my son's mother will give me the fight of my life, but AS YOU ALL HAVE SAID I have rights, and WILL get them because I pay support.

Oh, and she had to bring him to court. The judge was going to ask him about his opinion on the name change. No one (apparently Judge included) expected me to be there.

And just FYI to those that thought that my son had my last name...he never did. It was always his mothers madien name. Any thoughts to if they will take that into consideration and side with them? Has anyone ever been through this? Thanks
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Hmmm, let's see - why would people be hostile? Perhaps because you're acting like this is all a game. You haven't seen the kid in 9 years, yet you're going to object to a name change 'cause it's not faaaaair that he be carrying his stepDad's name, but you're willing to drop that objection if she'll drop the child support. And well, maybe you'll go for visitation, but maybe you won't 'cause it might be too haaaaaard to answer his questions. And HAHAHA Mom was so stressed out that her hair's falling out! HAHAHA Isn't it funny how I can rile her up?!?! And yeah, my son was there, but I didn't look at him!

If you want to be a father to this boy - then quit dicking around and step up to the plate. But if all you want to do is dick around - ask if the man who HAS been a father to him would like to become so legally and give up all your rights so that he can adopt him.

Yes, you do have rights. As well as responsibilities. Either grow up and take on both, or step out of the way.
 

msdad

Member
Northern Ohio, and Trailer!

Well despite your "love" of me, I would like to know your opinion based on MY HONESTY to this situation if you think his name will change? You stealth seem to know more about the laws, then other people who give their two cents.

I did not think it funny that her hair fell out. I was just amazed that her seeing me there caused her so much stress that that would happen.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
I suspect, since the boy carried HER name and not yours in any event, it is entirely likely that the judge will grant the petition.
 

Reyna7

Member
Why, I will tell you?

msdad said:
I don't know why you all are so hostile??

I will tell you why, because you acted like an idiot and who got hurt? Your son. How did your actions make him feel? Do you care?

My heart breaks for this little boy and I hope that the courts don't give you *hit, because Stealth is correct, you act like this is a game and it isn't.

This is a prime example of that old saying..."Anyone can make a child, but it takes someone special to be a Daddy". It was easy to make this kid, but you are so far from knowing the joys of being a Dad.

I usually am very supportive of kids needing their bio Dad in their lives, but this is one case where I hope the courts see what you are and let his Step Dad be that person. You really do not deserve that title. I still am so shocked you did that to him in court, that poor kid. :mad:
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Yes we told you what you can object to and that you could file for visitation, that doesn't mean that there is any merit to what you are fighting for insofar as the name change since the child doesn't even have your last name, that is why I said it was much ado about nothing, now if you were fighting for him to keep your name or to give him your name, then your case would have some merit. Insofar as visitaiton, you have made no attempt to ask for visitaiton let alone file for it, so again, much ado about nothing. That is what you have to do to have a case and then actually do something positive about your child.
 

msdad

Member
well I did want to see him a 1-1/2 ago. He was at my mothers house and I said I'd still go over there even though he was there. My mother called my sons mom and ask her if I could. She said no, and that I should call her. I did not call her, but she still wrote me a letter explaining that in her opinion that it is now my sons decision to see me, not mine and not even hers. She just wants him to be old enough. She said that our biological tie will never go away, and that they weren't going anywhere and to just leave him alone, and we can revisit it in years to come. HOWEVER! She put on her application for the name change that I have never seen, or expressed a desire to do so. My lawyer had the letter proving that to be a lie. When he questioned her she said "read the last page!" It said that I should come to her and not hide behind my mothers skirt and her and I can talk about this stuff and leave everyone else out of it. And she said "No he never came to me or called me about this." She called me after I recieved the letter but I never called her back.

Is this letter considered trying to make contact, even though I never directly contacted her, but only through my mother?
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
HOW many years after the child was born did you attempt to visit, and when did you file for visitation? Until a court orders visitation you have no right to visitation so mom was perfectly within her rights to deny visitation. When DNA proved you the father, you could have in your response filed for custody and visitation. Your tears are meaningless, now grow up. You have an attorney, pay him to petition for visitation and be ready to prove yourself. Take a parenting class....
 

msdad

Member
8 years after, I know. I've never filed for visitation, I just wanted to know if that time I said I would at my moms house and her letter would prove I tried if we go to court on this. Even though I did not ask my ex directly.

Stealth, was that your opinion on if the Judge would change his name? Or is it something you've encountered somehow before? Not sure what your actual legal knowledge is. (that was not meant to sound confrontational) thanks
 

msdad

Member
Also. I heard a rumor that her husband bought ANOTHER business in Florida. Isn't Florida a state where she can keep my son away from me, as long as she doesn't come back to OH?

Her husband has said that money is no object on this, and that he will wear my wallet out with silly requests and keep continuing things until I can't afford an attorney anymore if I procede with visitation. He said too that he knows my son will come to me when hes older and that he supports HIS SON in whatever he wants to do when he's older. But can they win this through money?

He did not directly tell me these things. I over heard someone else say them. Well, he did say to me that he knew my son will look for me later in life when we were in the court room. He was burning mad. I know what you guys will say, but its really none of his business in my opinion.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Your attempt is empty and not sincere, it is what it is, nothing more, nothing less, you will have to do more to convience a judge to give you even supervised visitation. The name issue is nothing to fight for, that is why no one thought you would show up.
 

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