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What is the name of your state? Oklahoma

My stepdaughter came over for her first visit yesterday (yay!) It went exceptionally well. At one point, while the kids were playing, the strap on my stepdaughter's sandal broke, so we decided to take the kids to Wal-Mart and buy her a pair of sandals. No big deal right? While we were there, we stopped and ate at McD's (since it was right there in the store.) Then we went right back to the house and played with the kids until it was time for her to go home. We had a really great time.

When dad took daughter home she immediately started going on about everything she did and how much fun she had and how she got new shoes, etc. Well mom got really mad. She was so infuriated that we went to Wal-Mart without calling and telling her first. Now, I was at home while all of this was happening and I got a call on my phone from mom and did not answer because I had a feeling something was wrong and I wanted to talk to my husband first so that I didn't walk right into something without knowing what happened. He explained the situation to me.

In the meantime, mom is texting me like crazy and calling us, and at first I didn't want to talk to her. I didn't see what the big deal was and I didn't want to fight with her. Finally, my husband decided to call her back (and recorded the conversation I might add.) Basically, she called me a b*&!@# and said I was responsible for what happened and I knew better, blah blah blah. Apparently mom is under the impression that we can't go anywhere without her approval first. At any rate, when my husband was talking to her, she must have said "My daughter" 15 times, instead of "Our daughter" to my husband. Then she said two different times that she wished he would fall off a cliff and die (with her kids in earshot.)

Needless to say, I'm not impressed by this display of verbal abuse, and frankly, I'm tired of dealing with this woman, but as she put it, "I married into this and therefore I have to deal with her." Whatever. So my question is this:

Our court order states that following:

2. Four hours on either a Saturday or Sunday each weekend with choice of day alternating between parents. Non custodial parent may take the child away from the custodial parent’s home, provided that the specific location is made known. This visitation shall continue for a period of four to eight weeks, once again depending upon the age of the child.

I read this to mean that if our visitation will commence at a location other than our home, we are to let the CP know (for example, we take the kids to grandmas or the park or chuckee cheese.) I did not think it meant that if we went to the store or got gas or something, that we need to call her every five minutes. It was an unplanned trip because we had no idea her shoe would break and did not want to send her home with no shoes. Am I being too liberal or is she being too strict?
 


Zephyr

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IMHO, she is being a bit of a control freak, when are your 8 weeks up? will more substantial visitation start then, is this a transitional "getting to know you" type visitation?
 
Long story short, a long time ago we set up a graduated visitation schedule to introduce my husband back into her life because BM denied visitation for over a year and we didn't have the money to get a lawyer until we saved it up. Mom signed the agreed schedule, to stay out of court, but did not follow it, so we attempted to file contempt but settled out of court again and agreed to see a parenting coordinator to resolve the dispute. They agreed to go back to the schedule, even though he should have had normal standard visitation long ago (she just basically stalled it.) However, the parenting coordinator made an adjustment to the statement and said he only has to do this four weeks, then eight weeks for eight hours one day, and eight weeks for eight hours on both days every other week for a total of 20 weeks. Basically, the parenting coordinator did not recommend this, but BM wanted this and my husband just agreed because he was just so happy that daughter finally got to come over.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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stepmom&mom said:
Well, we are not all uneducated hicks here in Oklahoma. Only some. :D


My response:

Well, you could've fooled me!

Anyone from Oklahoma who acts like she has, and for someone like yourself who shops at Wal-Mart, "Trailer City" can't be too far away.

IAAL
 

Zephyr

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IAAL- that was a pretty rude comment you made, this lady presented herself and her issue to the forum in a polite and well written manner, there was no reason to launch into insults, just because someone shops at walmart does not mean they don't have a good head on their shoulders and a good heart. I have seen much more vindictive initial posts on this forum, in those I may think your insults are aptly placed, but this woman has done nothing to incur insults.

sorry for butting my nose in....
 

ENASNI

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Hiya

Hey stepmomomomomomomomom...

Methinks that jealousy just reared its ugly head... I know from your posts that you are a pretty level-headed person, and to dang nice! but I think just letting this go, and just staying level-headed and being the better person will let this blow over. Its just the start of things... Next time, don't have such a great visit... :p

No really, it sound like a yicky situation, but maybe after the next visit it will be a tamer situation.

Good luck,

Hey Seniorjudge and his Canuck shop at Walmart.. I know I can't get my roommate out of there. IAAL can't help himself with the middle states... its a compulsion... and I know stepmomomomomomom knows that too.
 
Well, believe me, we are not running to the parenting coordinator (unlike BM) to complain about her. I figured we would just let her be the idiot. As far as I'm concerned, if the parenting coordinator calls, we will not be making a big deal of it. Although, I do have to say that we have discussed our situation with our lawyer and have decided that it's time to take this to a judge.
 

LdiJ

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stepmom&mom said:
Well, believe me, we are not running to the parenting coordinator (unlike BM) to complain about her. I figured we would just let her be the idiot. As far as I'm concerned, if the parenting coordinator calls, we will not be making a big deal of it. Although, I do have to say that we have discussed our situation with our lawyer and have decided that it's time to take this to a judge.

I agree that mom is being a control freak....however unfortunately that one little phrase in the orders "provided that the specific location is made known" could give you some grief. I am not sure that the way that you are interpreting it is guaranteed to be the way that a judge would interpret it.....particularly during these short visits.

If you take it to court make sure that phrase is removed.
 
Easier said than done. Mom has already told my husband that if he doesn't cooperate and listen to her, he can't see his daughter. That's exactly why we want to change her abilityto control that.
 
I am going through the same situation with my husbands ex. My step-daughter came down this weekend for the first time in at least 6 months. I wish you the very best of luck. I am sorry that I have no advice, but I will keep you in my prayers!!!!!
 

Gingermom

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Rediculous

stepmom&mom said:
2. Four hours on either a Saturday or Sunday each weekend with choice of day alternating between parents. Non custodial parent may take the child away from the custodial parent’s home, provided that the specific location is made known. This visitation shall continue for a period of four to eight weeks, once again depending upon the age of the child.

I read this to mean that if our visitation will commence at a location other than our home, we are to let the CP know (for example, we take the kids to grandmas or the park or chuckee cheese.) I did not think it meant that if we went to the store or got gas or something, that we need to call her every five minutes. It was an unplanned trip because we had no idea her shoe would break and did not want to send her home with no shoes. Am I being too liberal or is she being too strict?

Question: Why do you have such restrictive wording in regards to visitationp daughter? However, I would understand it to be that if you are going to grandma's then you would give her grandmas' number, but then while you are going to grandma's and you stop at a shoe store...no, you don't need to provide her with the shoe store number. Unless, I am missing something...Like I asked why is the decree written like this for what purpose. Was there something else going on for the mother or the father? What the mother is doing is rediculous and very controlling. Write down every word she says...and when you go back to court - make sure you reword and get it exactly worded so that you are not in a catch 22. But more importantly when the mother does this, this must really frustrate the visit and put pressure on the child...definitely, bring up that this type of behavior is unnecessary...
 
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