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nurse_nan

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Check your state laws, sir, regarding emancipation. In most states, a minor that is pregnant is emancipated during the pregnancy but reverts to a minor once the baby is born if she remains at home with parents. If she moves out and becomes self-supporting, she can be emanicpated. She always has parental rights and obligations toward the baby, meaning she can sign for consent for treatment on the baby (but not herself if she remains a minor under her parent's roof). And yes, as stated before, you have committed statutory rape of a minor (sex with anyone under the age of 18 or legal age in your state) and the grandmother can and probably will push that if you don't find some common ground here.

Time to buck up, get a job, get your paternity established, and start providing for your child. If you want grandma to butt out, better move mother and baby into your home and get her emancipated. Time for a lawyer and BE HONEST with that lawyer about how you had sex with a 14 year old. The lawyer will want to know that before he/she accepts this case. I know you don't see it this way but grandma has every right to be outraged that you had sex with her minor daughter. Wait til your daughter is 14 and see how you feel about it.
 


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fast_one

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to nurse_nan

Well you see, its not thats she is out raged by me and her minor. its just that she wants the baby at her household. I mean I just got back from their house and there was an 18 year old hanging all over her twin sister whom is also 14. I mean didnt she learn. And me and my GF have been going out for about two years before we got our baby. The mother never once told me to keep away from her daughter. and I'll have to be honest we once that she was pregnant but it was false and she still didnt tell be to back off her daughter. My GF and I are in love and we didn't make that child out of stupidity or rape, it was actually love. We shouldn't have done it, but we just wern't thinking and love took effect and one thing led to another.
 

I AM ALWAYS LIABLE

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fast_one said:
My GF and I are in love and we didn't make that child out of stupidity or rape, it was actually love. We shouldn't have done it, but we just wern't thinking and love took effect and one thing led to another.

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My response:

We'll see how far that excuse gets you when the County Prosecutor finds out - - okay?

IAAL
 
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craftymom

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I swore I would keep my fingers quiet on this one, but.....

Okay, so you've just stated that your GF's mother is a sh*tty parent. I mean, you've been dating for two years??? Since the GF was 12??? And you were 17??? Obviously, you must have been a loser in high school, or you live in a town so small that the only girl available to you was a sixth/seventh grader.


I'll tell you what. I have a 14 year old stepdaughter, and if (God forbid) she were ever to wind up pregnant as a minor, with an adult as the father, you'd better believe charges would be pressed.

Furthermore, where the hell are YOUR parents?? Because I'll tell you what. I have a 14 year old son, and if HE were 19 and diddling with some little girl, I'd do everything in my power to protect the girl-----including gathering evidence and turning him in.
 
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fast_one

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what can she do this???

Ok now my GF's mother is saying that I cant see my GF or my Daughter??
 
Well, from what we've read on this thread - it sounds like although Grandma has no right to withold your child from you - she has every right to withold HER child from you.

Sounds like you're kind of stuck on this one. You're going to need a lawyer, to establish paternity, visitation and support for the child - but you could run into a little snag regarding the mother of that child being underage.

Good luck. You're going to need it!
 
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fast_one

Guest
well....................

Ok I can see them now, but How can I loose when I have evidence of alcohol and drug usage in that house? especially if her own daughter doesn't want to live there anymore. Now I do understand about the grandmother having no rights to my daughter, but can anyone proove that to me? I know she has all rights to my GF, but my GF plans on getting emanstipated (or how ever you spell it). She already told her mother that and I guess she supossivley said ok than go get it.
Tony
 
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OnlyOneVoice

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The laws regarding custody are quite clear. As a parent of the baby, you have equal rights and responsibilities for that baby.

You could go take the baby and no one could do anything about the baby. Now your girlfriend's mom may cause problems with your girlfriend, but she can scream and stomp her feet all she wants, but in the final analysis you are the father and you have a legal right to possession of your daughter just as your girlfriend does.

One option is to get CPS involved and let them know about the situation and that you as the bio dad are willing and able to take custody of the baby if the situation warrants.

If you can press the issue, it might be wise to just move your girlfriend into your home until such time as she is legally able to marry in your state with parental consent.

(BTW just a bit of a note here, "love" did not take over in the conception of this baby, uncontrolled and unrestrained and selfish sexual desire did. If you had truly loved this girl, you would never, ever have put her in this position. 14 year old mothers are destined for a difficult and disappointing life. Statistics show that teenaged mothers tend to have children that are teenaged parents at a much higher rate than parents who were not teenagers when they became parents. If you really love this girl, you'll stop "diddling" in her pants and do what is the absolute best for her and your daughter. This is very important, you don't need back to back babies and believe me it does happen.)
 
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NITELAVENDER

Guest
its CHILD PROTECTION SERVICES

they maybe able to help you somehow
 
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fast_one

Guest
HELP

Where can I find a site where i can find my rights for my situation?
 
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OnlyOneVoice

Guest
Fast:

What part of

"you have the same legal rights to possession of the child as the mother"

did you not understand?


You can legally get the baby from the mom and the grandmother and there is nothing the grandmother can do as there is no standing order of custody.

If the baby's mom agrees, just go get the baby and be done with it.

Grandma can stomp her feet all she wants but she has no legal standing with regard to the custody of your infant daughter.

Is that clear???
 
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hexeliebe

Guest
O.K. everyone. Deep Breath.

Utah is one of the few states with no emancipation statute. The age of majority is 18 or, if the child is in school, when she graduates with her graduating class.

Therefore, let's forget the emancipation talk. It doesn't apply.

Now, as to custody, poster. Go talk with an attorney. At this point getting CPS involved will not only cause a deeper rift between you and the mother, but could also cause the baby to be lost in the system.

An attorney would help you to file for custody and the mother would have nothing to say about it.
 

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