overnights with boyfriend

[shell007]

Hey BelizeBreeze..when you posted the following:

So, you advocate telling someone on a legal website that stalking and harrasment is perfectly fine?

Please justify that.


I didn't tell anyone or suggest that stalking or harassment is perfectly fine. There are various legal ways to ensure the safety of children. I was merely suggesting...that in the end, this dad is worried about his kids health and safety.... and Yes...if he has strong suspiscions about their wellbeing, then he should do everything he can LEGALLY and properly to ensure their safety.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

Hey BelizeBreeze..when you posted the following:

So, you advocate telling someone on a legal website that stalking and harrasment is perfectly fine?

Please justify that.


I didn't tell anyone or suggest that stalking or harassment is perfectly fine. There are various legal ways to ensure the safety of children. I was merely suggesting...that in the end, this dad is worried about his kids health and safety.... and Yes...if he has strong suspiscions about their wellbeing, then he should do everything he can LEGALLY and properly to ensure their safety.

You are the last person I need to justify myself to. Especially since you never answered the question and any comments you have made to this and other threads are NOT based on legal foundation.

 

[shell007]

belizebreeze: I have not heard one educated responce out of you yet. You must be a very angry person. All you seem to do is read posted threads in order to criticize other people's opinions. Where is your reasonably educated opinion about the matter at hand. Just curious if you have one. In addition....I wasn't asking you to justify anything to me! I was repeating verbatim from your pervious email.

lquiduser: As long as you take the appropriate legal steps in ensuring your kids safety, hopefully the judge will see your caring and concern, and not look at you as a troublemaker.

 

[casa]

lquiduser: As long as you take the appropriate legal steps in ensuring your kids safety, hopefully the judge will see your caring and concern, and not look at you as a troublemaker.

This is a VERY different response than the one you originally gave.

The judge won't see caring and concern if he winds up under a Protective Order for stalking/surveilling his X! He will look controlling , and when any evidence DOES come up- he will have lost some credibility. PIs are hired for a reason.

 

[CJane]

He will look a controlling, and when any evidence DOES come up- he will have lost some credibility. PIs are hired for a reason.

ESPECIALLY given his description of mom's current living conditions in HER OWN HOME! This is going to look (IMO) like dad has issues with the BF and knows that a judge won't really care about THAT, so he's trying to find something that a judge WILL care about.

Notice that I'm not saying that I believe that, because whether or not I do is irrelevant. But OP needs to focus a LOT more on proving that he's the best choice, instead of trying to prove that mom is the worst one.

 

[shell007]

lquidsuer's original question was:

how do I legally prove that my kids are being housed in an unsafe environment without looking ?(cops at the door etc.)

Pay close attention to his use of words. He said legally. If he had any intention of wrong-doing he wouldn't be asking how do I legally prove....


I understood his original thread to be hypethetical. I was responding to his final question and only about the kids......not how he should go about it. I don't think his thread was asking anyone for permission or approval to commit a crime. He is worried about looking and needs to know what he can do legally

Do any of you people ever get the real point of a thread, or do you only read until something grabs your attention, stop reading, and just start hitting the reply button?

 

[casa]

lquidsuer's original question was:



Pay close attention to his use of words. He said legally. If he had any intention of wrong-doing he wouldn't be asking how do I legally prove....


I understood his original thread to be hypethetical. I was responding to his final question and only about the kids......not how he should go about it. I don't think his thread was asking anyone for permission or approval to commit a crime. He is worried about looking and needs to know what he can do legally

Do any of you people ever get the real point of a thread, or do you only read until something grabs your attention, stop reading, and just start hitting the reply button?

And your ORIGINAL reply gave him NO legal direction, whatsoever.

Getting the 'point' of the thread, is not the same as directing a poster to what is legally required to get the result they want/need.

The OP was advised correctly.

 

[shell007]

casa: I didn't give legal advice because this is a forum of opinions. I'll leave the legal stuff on this issue to the lawyers on "post your case to an attorney" section of this web page.

I chose to respond vs. the children's safety.

The comment about one parent looking good and the other looking bad, in the end...who cares who looks good or bad?, who wins or who looses?

No one is going to care if one of those kids gets hurt or worse.

It should be about the kids, the kids, and the kids.

 

[stealth2]

casa: I didn't give legal advice because this is a forum of opinions.

Take your eyes up to the very top right corner of the page, dear, and read what that says. Do we see "opinion" anywhere in there?

 

[casa]

casa: I didn't give legal advice because this is a forum of opinions. I'll leave the legal stuff on this issue to the lawyers on "post your case to an attorney" section of this web page.

I chose to respond vs. the children's safety.

The comment about one parent looking good and the other looking bad, in the end...who cares who looks good or bad?, who wins or who looses?

No one is going to care if one of those kids gets hurt or worse.

It should be about the kids, the kids, and the kids.

I'm going to try to delicately burst your bubble....

#1 BelizeBreeze IS an attorney

#2 The courts care VERY MUCH about a parent's demeanor and actions during a custody battle. (Just ask my nuttyX)

#3 I was a child advocate for years...and I care very much about children's welfare issues~ Which is WHY it's so VERY important to direct a poster to legal remedies.

 

[stealth2]

I'm going to try to delicately burst your bubble....

*POP*

hehehehe

 

[BelizeBreeze]

I am only responding to this thread because of a misconception.

First, I am NOT an attorney. Although it is true I attened George Washington University in Washington DC in the early 70 and gratduated, some 30 years later, I did not take my JD and have not and see no need to take the bar exam or go through the licensing procedures.

I attended law school at GWU, Gradusate school at the University of Missouri with a masters in International Business and the American University on Foreign Policy with a certification in International treaties because I wanted to.

I was, as some of you also know, a drafter of the policy which later became the European Community Committee on Families and Children and a legal analyst for the NSA.

I have also returned recently to study International family law at GWU. Now, that being said, I will put my legal answers against yours shellandty any day, at any time before any court, nationally and internationally.

Now, your next comment is?

 

[Zephyr]

I am only responding to this thread because of a misconception.

First, I am NOT an attorney. Although it is true I attened George Washington University in Washington DC in the early 70 and gratduated, some 30 years later, I did not take my JD and have not and see no need to take the bar exam or go through the licensing procedures.

I attended law school at GWU, Gradusate school at the University of Missouri with a masters in International Business and the American University on Foreign Policy with a certification in International treaties because I wanted to.

I was, as some of you also know, a drafter of the policy which later became the European Community Committee on Families and Children and a legal analyst for the NSA.

I have also returned recently to study International family law at GWU. Now, that being said, I will put my legal answers against yours shellandty any day, at any time before any court, nationally and internationally.

Now, your next comment is?

you're hot

 

[shell007]

I'm going to try to delicately burst your bubble....

#1 BelizeBreeze IS an attorney

#2 The courts care VERY MUCH about a parent's demeanor and actions during a custody battle. (Just ask my nuttyX)

#3 I was a child advocate for years...and I care very much about children's welfare issues~ Which is WHY it's so VERY important to direct a poster to legal remedies.

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#1 If belizebreeze is an attorney, wouldn't her time be better spent some other way than criticizing people for sharing their opinions. Just my opinion, but if that was supposed to make me stand up and take notice...It didn't! Just becuase you say your an attorney doesn't make it so, and If you are an attorney.....that does not automatically make you a good one.

#2 If you two are so bent on helping the poster, why are you spending so much time correcting me?

#3 No one is going to have to worry about a custody battle if there are no children to fight for.

#4 You also have no idea who I am, what I do, or what I'm about so don't be so quick to put people in their place. Didn't come close to bursting my bubble.

#5 No where did I read that " you must only post legal advice....no opinions please" to join a thread. Heck...someone was talking about their christmas shopping this morning.

 

[CJane]

Now, your next comment is?

You gonna buy me dinner when you're in town? Cuz that made me all swoony and stuff.

shellandty ~ The original poster has posted NOTHING AT ALL to indicate that the child/ren are in any danger at all. All he's indicated is that he doesn't like where he thinks that they might be spending time occasionally. The advice that you've given him COULD result in him actually LOSING his kids. If I was mom and dad was spying on me/my BF/the kids - I'd file a restraining order so fast that his head would spin.