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[rmet4nzkx]

Was the Tattoo artist appropriately liscensed and supervised as per statute? Did you provide written permission and indicate that you were sole or joint custodian?

Florida State Law:
Title XLVI
CRIMES

Chapter 877
Miscellaneous Crimes


877.04 Tattooing prohibited; penalty.--

(1) It is unlawful for any person to tattoo the body of any human being; except that tattooing may be performed by a person licensed to practice medicine or dentistry under chapters 458 and 459 or chapter 466, or by a person under his or her general supervision as defined by the Board of Medicine.

(2) Any person who violates the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(3) No body of a minor shall be tattooed without the written notarized consent of the parent or legal guardian.

History.--ss. 1, 2, ch. 59-439; s. 1, ch. 69-118; s. 1148, ch. 71-136; s. 1, ch. 77-174; s. 124, ch. 92-149; s. 23, ch. 93-260; s. 1426, ch. 97-102.

Florida statutes make it unlawful for anyone to tattoo the body of a human being unless the tattooist is licensed to practice medicine or dentistry or is operating under the general supervision of such a licensed person as defined by the Board of Medicine (Fla. Stat. Ann. § 877.04). The statute goes on to make violation of this provision a second degree misdemeanor, and it prohibits tattooing a minor without the written notarized consent of the parent or legal guardian. Finally, the statute requires the Department of Professional Regulation to recommend to the 1993 Florida Legislature the appropriate level of regulation for persons practicing tattooing. We have obtained a copy of this report and will share it with you if you wish, but we have been told by Ron Watson, legislative specialist with the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, that the legislature chose to make no changes in Florida's law subsequent to receiving the report.



The Board of Medicine's regulations define the term "general supervision" to mean the supervision of a tattooist by a physician, osteopath, or dentist which does not require the physical presence of the supervisor when procedures are performed, but which does require:



1. a semi-annual review and inspection by the supervisor of the tattooist's techniques, procedures, and equipment;

2. quarterly training by the supervisor of the tattooist in infection control, sterilization, and emergency procedures; and



3. development by the supervisor and the tattooist jointly of written procedures regarding the medical condition for individuals to receive tattoos, treatment of routine minor problems resulting during the tattooing, and detailed procedures to be followed during the performance of or as a result of tattooing.



These written procedures must be maintained in a readily available location on the tattooing premises and the supervisor must keep a copy. These written procedures must be readily available for inspection and review by the Department of Professional Regulation, the Board of Medicine, the Board of Osteopathic Examiners, and the Board of Dentistry (Fla. Admin. Code § 21 M-29.002).

 

[lisagr33]

Why in the world

would you let a sixteen year old get a tattoo? Just to keep him quiet and to keep him from continually begging for one.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

This is ironic.

The last time that I made the argument that with joint legal custody a parent couldn't get a child's ear's pierced without the involvement/permission of the other parent I was jumped all over. I was told that both parents were free to make that decision.

Now everybody is jumping all over a mom for making a similar decision.

Can we at least try to be consistant in our responses? If its ok for dad to decide that a teen can get something pierced, without mom's permission, then its ok for mom to allow a discreet tattoo...without dad's permission.

OR, BOTH of them are in the wrong.

However, I think its totally unfair for dad to take the child's car away to punish the child for something the child had permission to do**************unless of course the subject was ever discussed between the child and dad, and dad flat out said no.

Mom also isn't going to lose custody over it.

Nope, must have been another forum, this is the only one and it was in a different state, and OP had sole custody but didn't object to the piercings, true another member jumped on you, the thread was over a year old. https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=154127

 

[LdiJ]

Nope, must have been another forum, this is the only one and it was in a different state, and OP had sole custody but didn't object to the piercings, true another member jumped on you, the thread was over a year old. https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=154127

Actually I just read that thread and nobody jumped me....it was a year old when someone bumped it up and I didn't notice when I responded. The only response after mine was someone pointing that out.

It was this board, because I remember specifically who jumped me on it. In any case, that's not the issue. The issue is that we are unfortunately guilty of giving inconsistant responses......and I wish that we would be more consistant.

 

[seniorjudge]

Actually I just read that thread and nobody jumped me....it was a year old when someone bumped it up and I didn't notice when I responded. The only response after mine was someone pointing that out.

It was this board, because I remember specifically who jumped me on it. In any case, that's not the issue. The issue is that we are unfortunately guilty of giving inconsistant responses......and I wish that we would be more consistant.

There is a major difference between an ear piercing (temporary) and a tattoo (permanent disfigurement).

 

[HomeGuru]

There is a major difference between an ear piercing (temporary) and a tattoo (permanent disfigurement).

**A: that's right. Just ask any of the natives on Skull Island.
Heck just ask King Kong.

 

[LdiJ]

There is a major difference between an ear piercing (temporary) and a tattoo (permanent disfigurement).

I see your point....but not everyone feels the same way about a discreet tatoo. I am totally neutral on the subject. I really don't have much of an opinion in either direction when it comes to discreet tatoos.

I really dislike the obvious ones though.....and I would probably pitch a holy fit if my ex allowed our daughter to do something like that.

 

[sajoseph]

Yes, the tattoo artist and business was thoroughly checked out by me first. All licanses were in proper order, inspections, as well as questioned and provided proof of sanitery conditions and sterilization techniques. I told you this was not a last minute thing, it was planned and thought out.

I understand peoples reactions, but it seems most of the negative ones were made out of personal preference rather then a professional point of view-which is ok. Things have settled down some around here. Dad has just decided not to contact any of us until he settles down.
As far as taking his car away, I never disagreed about that. That side of the family are allowed to express their opinions, my son was aware of this from the beginning, and had expected punishment from his dad if he found out. I cannot step in between that. I was mainly worried that he could have done something leagl to me.
I also saw another statement, that stated if I would not have allowed this, he would have gone elsewhere. TRUE! I hoped he would never, but the craze is tattoos amongst everyone in Florida. The younger the better. And ever single person at his school seems to have at least one tat now. They are acquiring them illegally at friends houses. Kids are buying the tattoo guns and ink and giving them to friends. I did not want this done, better to be safe then sorry.
I too have 6 tattoos, not one can be seen by anyone, all in good taste and hidden respectfully. I do not have a personal problem w/ tattoos, as long as they are within taste. I had his future in mind the whole time. That is why it is hidden and in taste and were done in a safe and sterile manner.
His gramma has also forgiven him, and he does not regret getting it. He is a very responsible child, capable of making the tattoo decision, with my guidance.
Thank you for all your support.

By the way, did not mean to insult anyone by making the comment regarding needing advice from someone with legal experience, but judging by the remarks made in the first few replies, people did not sound ethical enough to actually have legal experience, by stating personal feelings instead of a totally professional point of view.

And for the remark about getting a tattoo on my head-WTF was that for? I sure hope you don't consider yourself a professional...

 

[seniorjudge]

Q: Does his father have groud to stand on w/ this tattoo thing?

A: Yes, you did a pretty stupid thing. But, a tattoo alone is probably not grounds to have the custody changed.

I'm glad I kept my remarks purely professional.

 

[HomeGuru]

And for the remark about getting a tattoo on my head-WTF was that for? I sure hope you don't consider yourself a professional...

**A: But I do I consider myself a professional.

 

[stealth2]

**A: But I do I consider myself a professional.

That would make a cool tat.

 

[casa]

Yes, the tattoo artist and business was thoroughly checked out by me first. All licanses were in proper order, inspections, as well as questioned and provided proof of sanitery conditions and sterilization techniques. I told you this was not a last minute thing, it was planned and thought out.

I understand peoples reactions, but it seems most of the negative ones were made out of personal preference rather then a professional point of view-which is ok. Things have settled down some around here. Dad has just decided not to contact any of us until he settles down.
As far as taking his car away, I never disagreed about that. That side of the family are allowed to express their opinions, my son was aware of this from the beginning, and had expected punishment from his dad if he found out. I cannot step in between that. I was mainly worried that he could have done something leagl to me.
I also saw another statement, that stated if I would not have allowed this, he would have gone elsewhere. TRUE! I hoped he would never, but the craze is tattoos amongst everyone in Florida. The younger the better. And ever single person at his school seems to have at least one tat now. They are acquiring them illegally at friends houses. Kids are buying the tattoo guns and ink and giving them to friends. I did not want this done, better to be safe then sorry.
I too have 6 tattoos, not one can be seen by anyone, all in good taste and hidden respectfully. I do not have a personal problem w/ tattoos, as long as they are within taste. I had his future in mind the whole time. That is why it is hidden and in taste and were done in a safe and sterile manner.
His gramma has also forgiven him, and he does not regret getting it. He is a very responsible child, capable of making the tattoo decision, with my guidance.
Thank you for all your support.

By the way, did not mean to insult anyone by making the comment regarding needing advice from someone with legal experience, but judging by the remarks made in the first few replies, people did not sound ethical enough to actually have legal experience, by stating personal feelings instead of a totally professional point of view.

And for the remark about getting a tattoo on my head-WTF was that for? I sure hope you don't consider yourself a professional...

I have tattoos & enjoy the art that goes along with them...However, as a parent, I would never agree to a minor getting a tattoo. I would also never make a permanent change to my child's body without discussing it with their father.

Tattoos are permanent & when you are a teenager nothing is permanent. What you wear, what you like, who you "looooove" Think back 20 years~ Are you the same person you were back then?

 

[seniorjudge]

...Think back 20 years~ Are you the same person you were back then?....

I hope to be able to do this soon.

I will post back when the meds kick in.

 

[casa]

I hope to be able to do this soon.

I will post back when the meds kick in.

I believe Hallucinagenics are still illegal judge. LOL Besides, you couldn't PAY me to go back!

 

[nextwife]

The ONLY permanent body change allowed under our roof is ear piercing, and even that is limited to one hole in each ear where it's supposed to go. And that is invisible if one stops wearing earrings.

My daughter knows, and has always been told that is our rule, until she is an adult and has income sufficient to live on her own. If she asks why, I whip out the HS Yearbook, show her what we thought looked "cool" when we were young (and boy, in 1969-1973 did we look bizarre!), and that wouldn't we look ridiculous if we were stuck having to still look that way now!

FYI- And like it or not, if a company has applications from equally qualified candidates for a customer contact job in any traditional business, they will hire the candidate without visible body piercings and tatoos. I can think of not ONE competitor who'd walk into any customer, for which we compete for business, that would think of sending out a rep with hardware hanging off their face or any visible tatoo.

Thank you, I'll hang my artwork on the walls. That way , GOOD art can be passed on and continue to be there after we're gone.

I'd want to do damage to anybody who'd ever allow my minor CHILD to get a tattoo, (regardless how "discreet") without my say-so.