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BelizeBreeze said:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Someone is sniffing a few too many soiled diapers
Oh that was cute. I have read your postings to others and you are really quite a nonproductive person, offering no intellectual information or sound advice. Hence your comment to go somewhere else and sniffing soiled diapers. You only have one angle. TO ATTACK. You need people skills!
 


momov3grlz69

Junior Member
I AM a custodial parent (mom) and you have got to be kidding me!!! People like you are what is clogging up the system with your whining and complaining about everything...stop with the heartbreak stories and stick to the facts!! No wonder judges leave the Family Court System!! Yes, we all deserve what is fair. Just know this....you are not the almightly last word on your son's relationship with his father. And how dare you say that your son is too young for sleep overs with him? Giving birth and carrying for 9 mos (which I've done 3 times) does not neccessarily make you the "knowingest of the parents". Get off your high horse and try getting what you'd like with honey!!! :rolleyes:
 
momov3grlz69 said:
And how dare you say that your son is too young for sleep overs with him?
You may have given birth but that does not consititue you as being a good mom. No one in their right mind! would have a newborn or 1 yr old go back & forth from one home to another. The courts look at the stability of the child without disruption. In the court guidelines in AZ, if a parent has not been involved in the day to day duties (which his daddy hasn't, not to my doing) then the child is to remain in his home until he develops a bond with the other parent and then overnights will begin. I've found a great deal of info and not from posters like you.
 

momov3grlz69

Junior Member
You really need some couseling. Yourson did not get to pick his parents nor choose who he lives with and "only gets to visit"...However, being of very sound mind and having won sole, legal and physical custody of my own 2 girls (originally 1yr and 2yrs old at the time) I NEVER interfered or complained that they "shouldn't" sleep over their daddy's house!!! Who the #$@! do you think you are??? It's really too little,too late to complain about the "ways" of your Ex. ....He's your son's father...with JUST as many rights as you. Best of luck to you all...and, again...you get more bees with honey!! :)
 

stealth2

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Well, ya know..... when you have babies with a married person, you don't really get to cast aspersions. You chose a man who could not be with the child full time to be the father. Now you get to live with the consequences of that choice. If Dad gets a good lawyer, he is more likely than not going to get overnights with his child.
 
momov3grlz69 said:
You really need some couseling. Yourson did not get to pick his parents nor choose who he lives with and "only gets to visit"...However, being of very sound mind and having won sole, legal and physical custody of my own 2 girls (originally 1yr and 2yrs old at the time) I NEVER interfered or complained that they "shouldn't" sleep over their daddy's house!!! Who the #$@! do you think you are??? It's really too little,too late to complain about the "ways" of your Ex. ....He's your son's father...with JUST as many rights as you. Best of luck to you all...and, again...you get more bees with honey!! :)
THe mother of my child! That is who I am! And no he will not get overnights. AZ guidelines! Since posting I have spoken with 4 atty and each have said the same thing! TOO YOUNG. I need counseling? Sounds like you need counseling (and a spelling lesson couNseling). You really are upset and none of this is personal. Take it down a notch! Where's the HONEY now.
 
stealth2 said:
Well, ya know..... when you have babies with a married person, you don't really get to cast aspersions. You chose a man who could not be with the child full time to be the father. Now you get to live with the consequences of that choice. If Dad gets a good lawyer, he is more likely than not going to get overnights with his child.
Same to you Stealth. TOO YOUNG. No overnights! Daddy hasn't been around in his life on a day to day basis. And his lawyer sucks. Just got out of law school and already has 5 bar complaints. I've checked it all out.
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
too sad in az said:
THe mother of my child! That is who I am! And no he will not get overnights. AZ guidelines! Since posting I have spoken with 4 atty and each have said the same thing! TOO YOUNG. I need counseling? Sounds like you need counseling (and a spelling lesson couNseling). You really are upset and none of this is personal. Take it down a notch! Where's the HONEY now.
Wow, 4 attorneys. What a crock of crap. What's the next lie going to be. I can hardly wait.

Let me guess. Immaculate conception?
 
momov3grlz69 said:
You really need some couseling. Yourson did not get to pick his parents nor choose who he lives with and "only gets to visit"...However, being of very sound mind and having won sole, legal and physical custody of my own 2 girls (originally 1yr and 2yrs old at the time) I NEVER interfered or complained that they "shouldn't" sleep over their daddy's house!!! Who the #$@! do you think you are??? It's really too little,too late to complain about the "ways" of your Ex. ....He's your son's father...with JUST as many rights as you. Best of luck to you all...and, again...you get more bees with honey!! :)
Sounds like you just wanted a break from having babies (1 & 2 yrs old) and a good nights sleep.
 
BelizeBreeze said:
Wow, 4 attorneys. What a crock of crap. What's the next lie going to be. I can hardly wait.

Let me guess. Immaculate conception?
Call it what you want. But all of the difference of opinions in posting caused me to take advantage of the "fee over the phone" consultations in the phone book. So I went to dialing. You can do it to BelizeBreeze and get some accurate information. You sound confused, mistrusting and well full of crap yourself. I thought I bothered you. Why are you still here?
 

momov3grlz69

Junior Member
I guess I failed to mention I am one of MANY SUPERMOMs. We don't need good nights' sleep....we survive on love, pride, hard work, self worth and self caring. TRY IT! The world IS a great place if you choose to look at it in a positive way. Not everyone is "out to get you or your kid"!! Good luck in all your future lawsuits!...PS: keep those legs closed tightly! Don't "put yourself" through this again. You may run out of AZ attorneys....are there any left with whom you haven't spoken???? Please....don't move to NY!!!
 
momov3grlz69 said:
I guess I failed to mention I am one of MANY SUPERMOMs. We don't need good nights' sleep....we survive on love, pride, hard work, self worth and self caring. TRY IT! The world IS a great place if you choose to look at it in a positive way. Not everyone is "out to get you or your kid"!! Good luck in all your future lawsuits!...PS: keep those legs closed tightly! Don't "put yourself" through this again. You may run out of AZ attorneys....are there any left with whom you haven't spoken???? Please....don't move to NY!!!
I am a SUPERMOM! And because I know what I am I won't spell it out like you did. Trying to convince yourself what you should be. And about the keep my legs closed tight comment, are you speaking from experience (2 babies in 2 years)? What does NY have to do with the price of tea in China.
 

nextwife

Senior Member
Speaking of China, I know some families with both a child from China and a biobaby that are less than a year apart. So what if someone has two kids a year apart?

And dads ARE just as important as moms to children. They need both, and not just tiny little mom-dominated doses of Daddy time.
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
It's time to put an end to all of this. Here is a history of little missus' posts and the CORRECT references:


YOUR FIRST STATEMENT ON VISITATION: "My son's father, who is married is taking me to court to get visitation. My son is 1yr and his father has only seen him 29 times during 2004. I have allowed his father to visit him at any time but because I will not let him spend the night my son's father has taken the attitude all or nothing. I have told my son's father that he can take him at anytime except to his home because his wife his violent."

AND THEN: "While obtaining all of this information I finally decided to do the sensible thing and contact an attorney other than my own. This is what I found out. No my son will not be spending the night at his father's house because here in AZ they have guidelines. Because my son is 1 yr guidelines state that regular visits in three to six hour increments be established to help the child bond, not overnight with someone who has not been in the day to day rearing of the child."

HERE YOU SAY: "Yes! I get it! Regarding visitation if you go to this website http://www.supreme.state.az.us/dr/T...Plans.htm#Plans
It has visitation parenting plans. Plan (A) Plan (B) & Plan (C). All plans that include overnights presume that the parent with access not only has care giving experience but that the child is sufficiently attached and accustomed to being in the care of that parent for long periods. "


AND YOU CONTINUE: "In the court guidelines in AZ, if a parent has not been involved in the day to day duties (which his daddy hasn't, not to my doing) then the child is to remain in his home until he develops a bond with the other parent and then overnights will begin."

HOWEVER, the correct and relevant references are as follows:

PARENT/CHILD ACCESS GUIDELINES
(VISITATION)

1. PURPOSE


These Guidelines are designed to provide assistance to the parents in the resolution of issues relating to parent/child access and to provide assistance to the court in formulating access orders when the parents are unable to reach an agreement. The underlying purpose of any such agreement or order is to provide for the best interest of each child after giving full consideration to the facts and issues that are relevant to each family.

6. PARENT/CHILD ACCESS

The following guidelines provide various programs for parent/child access plans.

B Six Months to Three Years

1 Basic Access: Provided regular access between parents and child(ren) has been maintained, access from six to twelve months should include the day of Saturday, and starting from twelve months to three years, access should progress up to alternate weekends (Saturday a.m. to Sunday p.m.) and one mid-week (not overnight).
Optional Access: Optional access includes one or more of the following: extending the weekend so that it begins on either Friday or Thursday; allowing additional weekday access; allowing a mid-week overnight access.

2 Optional Access: Optional access includes one or more of the following: extending the weekend so that it begins on either Friday or Thursday; allowing additional weekday access; allowing a mid-week overnight access.

G Holidays
Holidays are to be alternated or shared between the parents. The child(ren) should be with mother on Mother's Day and with father on Father's Day.

H Extended Access/Vacation
Infants and children up to school age should be permitted to have extended access to the other parent on an increasing time basis. It is important to note that for children up to three years of age, the child(ren) should not be deprived of contact with the primary parent for more than one week at a time. For children ages three years to school age, the child(ren) ordinarily should not be deprived of access to the other parent for more than two consecutive weeks. For children six years and older, the basic vacation access should be in the range of two to four weeks with optional access extending up to ten weeks or so. For children in junior high and high school, parents should consider the comments in sections D and E above.

Now, as to retroactive child support, here is your history on this thread:

YOU SAID: "My gooodnesssss! I said in my first posting that "HIS" attorney sent "my" attorney a letter stating that his client was willing to pay $456 a month for child support. Which indicates that he is dealing with child visitation & CHILD SUPPORT!"

AND LET US NOT FORGET: "LIE? I just found this information out. What do I need to lie for? What would be the advantage of lying? Clearly none! I just wanted to let you know I get retroactive support. Because the attorney said so, because my son's father filed for support & visitation in August. Did I mention I get retroactive support?"

THEN YOU CONTINUE: "Oh yea did I mention I get RETROACTIVE SUPPORT! "

AND THIS ONE: "Yea yea yea! I had more than one question. I got the answer I needed regarding retroactive payments. Thanks to him filing in August I guess I can bank on getting from August until this thing is settled in back payments for child support."

HOWEVER, I GUESS YOU FORGOT THIS STATEMENT ALSO:"In addition, the attorney did say that if the father filed for child support and visitation then at that time child support will be calculated. "

The correct Arizona citation for retroactive child support is the following:

25-320 . Child support; factors; methods of payment; additional enforcement provisions; definitions

A. In a proceeding for dissolution of marriage, legal separation, maintenance or child support, the court may order either or both parents owing a duty of support to a child, born to or adopted by the parents, to pay an amount reasonable and necessary for support of the child, without regard to marital misconduct. If no child support has been ordered by a child support order and if the court deems child support appropriate, the court shall direct, using a retroactive application of the child support guidelines to the date of filing a dissolution of marriage, legal separation, maintenance or child support proceeding...
 
Do you have a job? Besides being uptight, opioninated and accusatory? Like I said before all attys I spoke with said that I can & will get RETROACTIVE CHILD SUPPORT!!!!!!!
 
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